References for clients..

[hoffa68]

The biggest thing is that both sides have issues. We all have concerns about being dicked around and wasting time and money. We both have security concerns and Iappreciate the risks sex workers take when doing what can be a dangerous job. We all have something to lose.

As for some sort of list that providers may share about us I don't care. There is nothing I have provided that could expose my true identity. If you all have a database of numbers and your experience with the person with that number than have at it. If it makes you feel safe than all is good for everyone. It's the same with our list. If we are able to determine who is real than we feel secure in visiting and paying the provider.

Every potential client who texts a provider should know that their number is now out there no matter what.

I also like the idea of a list for the providers to share. It would make things easier for me. Instead of contacting my reference and letting them know than providing that reference to the provider I want to see who than has to contact my reference. It would just be easy to look at that list. Than us guys have to hope we don't experience the scene from the movie Amazon Women on the moon. It was the one with Steve Guttenberg and Rosanna Arquette. Very funny scene.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HufRCqkURQ8

And Nicole I have access to Whitemans list and can vouch for the fact that their is nothing in their that can't be found in their ad or on TERB. It just helps us make sure who is real and who is fake.

 

[RachelNicole]

The biggest thing is that both sides have issues. We all have concerns about being dicked around and wasting time and money. We both have security concerns and Iappreciate the risks sex workers take when doing what can be a dangerous job. We all have something to lose.

As for some sort of list that providers may share about us I don't care. There is nothing I have provided that could expose my true identity. If you all have a database of numbers and your experience with the person with that number than have at it. If it makes you feel safe than all is good for everyone. It's the same with our list. If we are able to determine who is real than we feel secure in visiting and paying the provider.

Every potential client who texts a provider should know that their number is now out there no matter what.

I also like the idea of a list for the providers to share. It would make things easier for me. Instead of contacting my reference and letting them know than providing that reference to the provider I want to see who than has to contact my reference. It would just be easy to look at that list. Than us guys have to hope we don't experience the scene from the movie Amazon Women on the moon. It was the one with Steve Guttenberg and Rosanna Arquette. Very funny scene.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HufRCqkURQ8

And Nicole I have access to Whitemans list and can vouch for the fact that their is nothing in their that can't be found in their ad or on TERB. It just helps us make sure who is real and who is fake.

Thx very thoughtful words I agree with a lot of what u said and I think if you are an above board provider or client you will be willing to balance the risk. Personally I do not ask for references yet. But a phone call is required to book. It is challenging even so. And to address the issue I brought up before about threads on fakebooking...in my opinion you boys r NOT justified to fakebook a girl for fake pics. Two wrongs don't make a right. And u may be misjudging her on that basis anyway. You may be also perpetuating a culture of thinking that perpetuates or snowballs into members fakebooking for other reasons...other than fake pics. Personally I always use up to date selfies and I get fakebooked regardless and I have seen an increase in this problem with text apps. I just think it could help us girls if you boys stopped the culture of fakebooking altogether. I would like to see it banned from forum threads to be fair.

 

[RachelNicole]

:bolt:



Fake booking threads aren't a thing. I'd happily join you in stating that if they did, they should be banned.

I'm not your enemy here, and see your frustrations. This is a rate vs risk industry, rates are higher in the USA due to increased risk if caught on both sides. Also why those working for an agency may make less than working as an independent provider (not charge less, but take home less per hour).

Hypothetically, if a voluntary deposit was offered by a provider then perhaps a discount on the service may be offered of 10% or something. The blance of risk has shifted and provider risk has been reduced while the client exposes himself to additional risks. That would likely cause all sorts of other issues for everyone, and I'm not actually proposing this as real solution, just an example of the economics at play.

Hey hun it is a thing..ill ask u to ask your fellow members if they promote fakebooking for fake pics ...I'll pass this question of fakebooking off to bobbiz. I think I have said my peace boys. Time for others to voice their opinions on this thread. Hugs to all and have a sexy night.

 

[Cigarman16]

Hey hun it is a thing..ill ask u to ask your fellow members if they promote fakebooking for fake pics ...I'll pass this question of fakebooking off to bobbiz. I think I have said my peace boys. Time for others to voice their opinions on this thread. Hugs to all and have a sexy night.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think what Nicole is referring to is the discussion and referencing of fake booking on the forum. I have seen many members mention it or try to promote it but never an actual thread regarding it. I do know there was a major push for clients to fake book a long while ago. Just saying it is discussed but I don't see it being formally discussed here myself. My two cents.

 

[hoffa68]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think what Nicole is referring to is the discussion and referencing of fake booking on the forum. I have seen many members mention it or try to promote it but never an actual thread regarding it. I do know there was a major push for clients to fake book a long while ago. Just saying it is discussed but I don't see it being formally discussed here myself. My two cents.

Yes I remember some people bringing it up but in the context of fakebooking those that we know are fake. Those who are trying to bait and switch. Pimps etc.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong but I've never seen anyone promoting fakebooking of legitimate providers.

 

[FreeG]

I think Perb and Lyla have threads for providers to warn about other clients. Sometimes it’s a threatening client (a real safety issue) sometimes it’s a guy who’s a WOT (I only know from the subject line that pops up from the latest thread on the right).

Why isn’t a similar thing available on Terb? Or I’d suggest providers share numbers of no shows, so when the same number appears to another provider, they’re forewarned and can make an educated choice. Montreal has “indycompanion.com” which I think provides an avenue for providers seeking to make a true profession out of this - perhaps the Ottawa ladies should try something similar?

I don’t know how you’d classify a no-show (a spineless guy who double-booked or chickened our at the last second) from a fakebooker (who I interpret to most likely be a competitor filling up the time slots of other providers). Another poster said men can change their numbers but how quickly and frequently? It seems like you’d run out of numbers pretty quickly or be limited with how many bookings you can make, but I’m no expert here.

 

[Alma@ALO]

FULLY AGREE..you hit all the nails on the head! Sadly my experience as a massage provider has been very similar as you describe. And I don't buy the explanation that it is other providers backstabbing each other. Maybe the odd case is true but I believe reputable provides would not fakebook each other. It is childish and unethical. Reputable providers lack such inclination and most likely too busy and don't even have the time to fakebook. And I also have dealt with fakebookers on the phone as you describe. These r males doing the fakebooking. I believe text apps have largely contributed to this dilemma. #sisterhood

Hi Nicole, hope you had a good easter I Love reading your posts btw. You re awesome.
Yes the texting apps have definitely caused an increase in fake bookings and harrassment. Typically whenever i see a text number(343,315,209, 222, 202, 777, ect) i ignore or block. Saves time as i know (experience) its going to be a waste of time. Its really unfortunate that SOME guys who partake in this hobby have a hard time showing us ladies a bit of respect since we are in the business of pleasure and going out of our way to SATISFY THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.. Still unfortuneately they dont see it that way but rather in derogatory perspective which they feel some weird false sense of privilege to degrade and harrass us in some way.
*

Phone calls are best practice. We can get a feel of who you are, your demeaner, your manners, your attitude, and vice versa. I also get the sense the younger guys prefer text bc thats the generation they r from. The generation that breaks up with their girlfriends over text...


If you go to the search box here and type in fake booking and or references a ton of good threads pop up on this issue. Ive been reading both sides of the coin and appreciate and understand where both parties are coming from. That being said, we need to work together not against. Im even seeing some feathers being ruffled from some guys in this thread who are hesitant to provide personal information. For the record, us REPUTABLE ladies are NOT going to abuse your info its for our security. How you think we feel. We r letting you into our homes. So what if you make a deposit using e transfer and your name pops up. We are not going to do anything. How many guys i get e transfers from and i know their name? So what. I got paid. Thanks joe smith. Some good clients even know my real name. Big deal. But this is a trust factor that comes after knowing someone long enough. Also there are well known people in the public eye who i and im sure others have serviced and never said a word thats trust. U need not worry about being outed. We r not like some people on this board.
WE JUST WANT TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE. Its US who is letting YOU into our personal spaces.
Reputable providers will never do anything to jeapordize your personal life, we just want to get paid and feel safe while we *take care of YOUR needs* . Agencies also require personal information whats the diff if they have it vs indies? again, its for provider safety. She doesnt want to invite someone into her personal space without knowing who u r only to get mugged raped assaulted or abused in some other way. Same way an agency wants to verify some information before sending a girl into a potenrially dangerous call. Pimps dont care about refrences bc they r the ones keeping the girl safe. They r always close by just in case. Independents put themselves at risk everyday with accepting new clients..this is why i love my regs. They put me at ease.

**** Terb handles are another way to verify if you are a savory person. Mind you, if you are not so nice on this board to the ladies or other members your probably not going to want to give out your handle. MP, 2nd ranger, jabba baby, pool, marsh, wm, jrock, ect are examples of wonderful and reputable clients. They are respectful, classy and give honest reviews and opinions without being nasty or disrespectful. These are just a few. there r many more but i just want to give an example of what a good terb member looks like. And they dont mind giving out their handle to ladies bc they have established themselves as a good reputable SAFE client. We need not worry. And they know this already hence why they have established themselves as mature savory clients without sharing any personal information.

Thats the way to do it if you dont want to give references. Be a gent on this board? You dont want to provide refrences and you dont want to share your terb handle.
Hmm.
Here is a link with various threads on the topic https://terb.cc/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=18622146&pp=&page=4
All in all we all need to come together. We should be working together to make the process safer for both sides. Being paranoid, weary of SPs MAs isnt helping. Reputable girls are reputable for a reason. We re not crazy, we re not assholes, not vindictive, we are not what you think if you have not met us. We just want to be safe and make a living. Why some guys out there wish to harm us by interfering with our LIVELIHOOD. We are paying bills and raising children. It is SICK. Provide references or not but if u dont i personally dont want anything to do with you if u are a new member especially with a high post count registered only a year ago. Thats a huge Redflag in my books.
And to my regs or those ive seen before you dont count. Its the new terbities registered 2018, 2017 i have my concerns about. Posting numbers dont make you legit. Your character does and i see alot of uncharacterly people who have recently been registered and work so hard to increase their post numbers then wish to dominate and then talk not very nice to the ladies on here who r just trying to voice their CONCERNS of the business and opine. Why get nasty with them and try and shut them down?
We need more good guys in ottawa. Savory, safe gentlemanly. MATURE.
Not on here calling provider bitches, encouraging fake bookings, calling out providers who wished to keep her anonymity. Like really some of you really need to grow up. What are you punks even doing on here if you cant hobby in a mature fashion. And that is what i call a slobbyist.
References are in demand now bc of these types of characters. Happy easter

 

[Dbass34]

Hi Nicole, hope you had a good easter I Love reading your posts btw. You re awesome.
Yes the texting apps have definitely caused an increase in fake bookings and harrassment. Typically whenever i see a text number(343,315,209, 222, 202, 777, ect) i ignore or block. Saves time as i know (experience) its going to be a waste of time. Its really unfortunate that SOME guys who partake in this hobby have a hard time showing us ladies a bit of respect since we are in the business of pleasure and going out of our way to SATISFY THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.. Still unfortuneately they dont see it that way but rather in derogatory perspective which they feel some weird false sense of privilege to degrade and harrass us in some way.
*

Phone calls are best practice. We can get a feel of who you are, your demeaner, your manners, your attitude, and vice versa. I also get the sense the younger guys prefer text bc thats the generation they r from. The generation that breaks up with their girlfriends over text...


If you go to the search box here and type in fake booking and or references a ton of good threads pop up on this issue. Ive been reading both sides of the coin and appreciate and understand where both parties are coming from. That being said, we need to work together not against. Im even seeing some feathers being ruffled from some guys in this thread who are hesitant to provide personal information. For the record, us REPUTABLE ladies are NOT going to abuse your info its for our security. How you think we feel. We r letting you into our homes. So what if you make a deposit using e transfer and your name pops up. We are not going to do anything. How many guys i get e transfers from and i know their name? So what. I got paid. Thanks joe smith. Some good clients even know my real name. Big deal. But this is a trust factor that comes after knowing someone long enough. Also there are well known people in the public eye who i and im sure others have serviced and never said a word thats trust. U need not worry about being outed. We r not like some people on this board.
WE JUST WANT TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE. Its US who is letting YOU into our personal spaces.
Reputable providers will never do anything to jeapordize your personal life, we just want to get paid and feel safe while we *take care of YOUR needs* . Agencies also require personal information whats the diff if they have it vs indies? again, its for provider safety. She doesnt want to invite someone into her personal space without knowing who u r only to get mugged raped assaulted or abused in some other way. Same way an agency wants to verify some information before sending a girl into a potenrially dangerous call. Pimps dont care about refrences bc they r the ones keeping the girl safe. They r always close by just in case. Independents put themselves at risk everyday with accepting new clients..this is why i love my regs. They put me at ease.

**** Terb handles are another way to verify if you are a savory person. Mind you, if you are not so nice on this board to the ladies or other members your probably not going to want to give out your handle. MP, 2nd ranger, jabba baby, pool, marsh, wm, jrock, ect are examples of wonderful and reputable clients. They are respectful, classy and give honest reviews and opinions without being nasty or disrespectful. These are just a few. there r many more but i just want to give an example of what a good terb member looks like. And they dont mind giving out their handle to ladies bc they have established themselves as a good reputable SAFE client. We need not worry. And they know this already hence why they have established themselves as mature savory clients without sharing any personal information.

Thats the way to do it if you dont want to give references. Be a gent on this board? You dont want to provide refrences and you dont want to share your terb handle.
Hmm.
Here is a link with various threads on the topic https://terb.cc/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=18622146&pp=&page=4
All in all we all need to come together. We should be working together to make the process safer for both sides. Being paranoid, weary of SPs MAs isnt helping. Reputable girls are reputable for a reason. We re not crazy, we re not assholes, not vindictive, we are not what you think if you have not met us. We just want to be safe and make a living. Why some guys out there wish to harm us by interfering with our LIVELIHOOD. We are paying bills and raising children. It is SICK. Provide references or not but if u dont i personally dont want anything to do with you if u are a new member especially with a high post count registered only a year ago. Thats a huge Redflag in my books.
And to my regs or those ive seen before you dont count. Its the new terbities registered 2018, 2017 i have my concerns about. Posting numbers dont make you legit. Your character does and i see alot of uncharacterly people who have recently been registered and work so hard to increase their post numbers then wish to dominate and then talk not very nice to the ladies on here who r just trying to voice their CONCERNS of the business and opine. Why get nasty with them and try and shut them down?
We need more good guys in ottawa. Savory, safe gentlemanly. MATURE.
Not on here calling provider bitches, encouraging fake bookings, calling out providers who wished to keep her anonymity. Like really some of you really need to grow up. What are you punks even doing on here if you cant hobby in a mature fashion. And that is what i call a slobbyist.
References are in demand now bc of these types of characters. Happy easter

You got some very good points, Alma. Yes, I hope we'll all come along together and that some OP will start acting properly, with maturity. At the end of the day, we will all win if both side work in the same line.

 

[justfor]

Hi Nicole, hope you had a good easter I Love reading your posts btw. You re awesome.
Yes the texting apps have definitely caused an increase in fake bookings and harrassment. Typically whenever i see a text number(343,315,209, 222, 202, 777, .........

.............................
Not on here calling provider bitches, encouraging fake bookings, calling out providers who wished to keep her anonymity. Like really some of you really need to grow up. What are you punks even doing on here if you cant hobby in a mature fashion. And that is what i call a slobbyist.
References are in demand now bc of these types of characters. Happy easter

Well-said, Alma.

 

[Horny_gentleman]

I COMPLETELY agree with this form of practice, I was actually shocked when I visited my first SP here and she didn’t ask for a reference. Reference checks are the norm on caf (western Canada) Ladies asks for caf handle, phone number and name if given. They don’t ask where you work, your personal info they just want to know that the man that is about to share her intimacy with her isn’t crazy. Put it this way it’s almost like having their own review board of OP’s.

 

[FreeG]

All in all we all need to come together. We should be working together to make the process safer for both sides. Being paranoid, weary of SPs MAs isnt helping. Reputable girls are reputable for a reason. We re not crazy, we re not assholes, not vindictive, we are not what you think if you have not met us. We just want to be safe and make a living.

Well said - that's a great idea (to work together) - I definitely think setting up a co-op or common group would benefit the providers and build an avenue to share safety information, trust, and advice. Judging by the number of BP ads and number of postings on TERB, I'm going to guess there's plenty of room to grow for a collective of reputable providers.

We clients always need to remember that the woman is, well, a HUMAN BEING too and I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt (it helps to use TERB, LYLA, image search and common sense to avoid wasting time on TGTBT ads at the onset). I've still been ghosted and faced delays that are frustrating too but we all have to brush it off & move on (yes, we've wasted a little bit of time, but at least we haven't wasted the money. And if you did go through with an appointment with someone who didn't physically appear as advertised, who is really to blame?)

If it seems a little frustrating/annoying to provide references or real numbers, you can always try your luck in the US! (good luck!!) Or head over to Montreal to visit an agency or indy there (I haven't had to provide a reference on my 2 visits there, anyway).

 

[randall_stevens]

Hi Nicole, hope you had a good easter I Love reading your posts btw. You re awesome.
Yes the texting apps have definitely caused an increase in fake bookings and harrassment. Typically whenever i see a text number(343,315,209, 222, 202, 777, ect) i ignore or block. Saves time as i know (experience) its going to be a waste of time. Its really unfortunate that SOME guys who partake in this hobby have a hard time showing us ladies a bit of respect since we are in the business of pleasure and going out of our way to SATISFY THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.. Still unfortuneately they dont see it that way but rather in derogatory perspective which they feel some weird false sense of privilege to degrade and harrass us in some way.
*

Phone calls are best practice. We can get a feel of who you are, your demeaner, your manners, your attitude, and vice versa. I also get the sense the younger guys prefer text bc thats the generation they r from. The generation that breaks up with their girlfriends over text...


If you go to the search box here and type in fake booking and or references a ton of good threads pop up on this issue. Ive been reading both sides of the coin and appreciate and understand where both parties are coming from. That being said, we need to work together not against. Im even seeing some feathers being ruffled from some guys in this thread who are hesitant to provide personal information. For the record, us REPUTABLE ladies are NOT going to abuse your info its for our security. How you think we feel. We r letting you into our homes. So what if you make a deposit using e transfer and your name pops up. We are not going to do anything. How many guys i get e transfers from and i know their name? So what. I got paid. Thanks joe smith. Some good clients even know my real name. Big deal. But this is a trust factor that comes after knowing someone long enough. Also there are well known people in the public eye who i and im sure others have serviced and never said a word thats trust. U need not worry about being outed. We r not like some people on this board.
WE JUST WANT TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE. Its US who is letting YOU into our personal spaces.
Reputable providers will never do anything to jeapordize your personal life, we just want to get paid and feel safe while we *take care of YOUR needs* . Agencies also require personal information whats the diff if they have it vs indies? again, its for provider safety. She doesnt want to invite someone into her personal space without knowing who u r only to get mugged raped assaulted or abused in some other way. Same way an agency wants to verify some information before sending a girl into a potenrially dangerous call. Pimps dont care about refrences bc they r the ones keeping the girl safe. They r always close by just in case. Independents put themselves at risk everyday with accepting new clients..this is why i love my regs. They put me at ease.

**** Terb handles are another way to verify if you are a savory person. Mind you, if you are not so nice on this board to the ladies or other members your probably not going to want to give out your handle. MP, 2nd ranger, jabba baby, pool, marsh, wm, jrock, ect are examples of wonderful and reputable clients. They are respectful, classy and give honest reviews and opinions without being nasty or disrespectful. These are just a few. there r many more but i just want to give an example of what a good terb member looks like. And they dont mind giving out their handle to ladies bc they have established themselves as a good reputable SAFE client. We need not worry. And they know this already hence why they have established themselves as mature savory clients without sharing any personal information.

Thats the way to do it if you dont want to give references. Be a gent on this board? You dont want to provide refrences and you dont want to share your terb handle.
Hmm.
Here is a link with various threads on the topic https://terb.cc/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=18622146&pp=&page=4
All in all we all need to come together. We should be working together to make the process safer for both sides. Being paranoid, weary of SPs MAs isnt helping. Reputable girls are reputable for a reason. We re not crazy, we re not assholes, not vindictive, we are not what you think if you have not met us. We just want to be safe and make a living. Why some guys out there wish to harm us by interfering with our LIVELIHOOD. We are paying bills and raising children. It is SICK. Provide references or not but if u dont i personally dont want anything to do with you if u are a new member especially with a high post count registered only a year ago. Thats a huge Redflag in my books.
And to my regs or those ive seen before you dont count. Its the new terbities registered 2018, 2017 i have my concerns about. Posting numbers dont make you legit. Your character does and i see alot of uncharacterly people who have recently been registered and work so hard to increase their post numbers then wish to dominate and then talk not very nice to the ladies on here who r just trying to voice their CONCERNS of the business and opine. Why get nasty with them and try and shut them down?
We need more good guys in ottawa. Savory, safe gentlemanly. MATURE.
Not on here calling provider bitches, encouraging fake bookings, calling out providers who wished to keep her anonymity. Like really some of you really need to grow up. What are you punks even doing on here if you cant hobby in a mature fashion. And that is what i call a slobbyist.
References are in demand now bc of these types of characters. Happy easter

I have a 343 number, and I've never had a text app. its a new area code for ottawa

 

[bangminton]

I have a 343 number, and I've never had a text app. its a new area code for ottawa

This is correct. There are also 613 numbers that come from text apps.

I have said this in another thread and will say it again: It is a slippery slope if SPs start blocking or ignoring text app numbers but they know what works for them so I have no further comment.

 

[Alma@ALO]

Well said - that's a great idea (to work together) - I definitely think setting up a co-op or common group would benefit the providers and build an avenue to share safety information, trust, and advice. Judging by the number of BP ads and number of postings on TERB, I'm going to guess there's plenty of room to grow for a collective of reputable providers.

We clients always need to remember that the woman is, well, a HUMAN BEING too and I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt (it helps to use TERB, LYLA, image search and common sense to avoid wasting time on TGTBT ads at the onset). I've still been ghosted and faced delays that are frustrating too but we all have to brush it off & move on (yes, we've wasted a little bit of time, but at least we haven't wasted the money. And if you did go through with an appointment with someone who didn't physically appear as advertised, who is really to blame?)

If it seems a little frustrating/annoying to provide references or real numbers, you can always try your luck in the US! (good luck!!) Or head over to Montreal to visit an agency or indy there (I haven't had to provide a reference on my 2 visits there, anyway).

I completely agree with with this idea.
This industry should be progressive and ever evolving.
Its not like it will ever go away. The last thing i want to see here in wonderful Canada is a mirror of what is happening in the u.s
The only way we can find common ground is to build upon a new foundation of trust. If we are reputable and you are reputable we should be able to play in the same sandbox. Fake providers un verified clients need not apply unless WILLING to prove themselves as authentic providers and mature clients. While this is a review board catered to men on those ladies practicing the erotic arts i personally yearn for the day to see some sort of forum of client/provider relation team building? No need to go after eachother. Obviously both sides have become frustrated. It is time to evolve and work together the best way possible. Terb was always so good before in that regard. Many agencies spas and independents have come to know many terb members and lyla members because the good ones use their handles as a reference. The newbies i dont think are grasping this and its causing much unneccessary drama and head butting. I do hope to see some sort evolution in this regard. God knows us providers are yearning for it. Trust people. We need more trust and a little more manners. Lets please for the love of god leave the misogyny and sexism at the door. We can build and maintain very good client provider relations but we need to try a bit harder and approach is everything. U only get 1 chance to make a good impression in lofe. Same goes for hobbying. It would be great to see less paranoia and more understanding and maturity. I dont want to keep griping but ottawa needs more maturity when it comes to hobbying in this industry. How can it ever become completely legal on both sides if there isnt maturity and a willingness to continue to be open minded and possess a progressive thought process. Xo we need to work together.

 

[Alma@ALO]

Whiteman's HVFM list has clients info list is comparing apples to oranges. Providers are offering a service, clients wish to obtain these services...we're not trying to sell ourselves.
For clients it's entertainment, for Providers it's a profession. I agree with Jason8 about his views. I apologize in advance if this ruffles feathers.

Its ok not offended. Just a friendly reminder that bell canada, rogers, iptv also offers services, and people buy those services for entertainmemt purposes.
BUT, those companies still require some sort of information to ensure a trustworthy clientele base before they sell their services.

I know its like comparing apples to oranges. But is it?

 

[RachelNicole]

I COMPLETELY agree with this form of practice, I was actually shocked when I visited my first SP here and she didn’t ask for a reference. Reference checks are the norm on caf (western Canada) Ladies asks for caf handle, phone number and name if given. They don’t ask where you work, your personal info they just want to know that the man that is about to share her intimacy with her isn’t crazy. Put it this way it’s almost like having their own review board of OP’s.

U just made me very wet lol like u #hallelujah

 

[RachelNicole]

I completely agree with with this idea.
This industry should be progressive and ever evolving.
Its not like it will ever go away. The last thing i want to see here in wonderful Canada is a mirror of what is happening in the u.s
The only way we can find common ground is to build upon a new foundation of trust. If we are reputable and you are reputable we should be able to play in the same sandbox. Fake providers un verified clients need not apply unless WILLING to prove themselves as authentic providers and mature clients. While this is a review board catered to men on those ladies practicing the erotic arts i personally yearn for the day to see some sort of forum of client/provider relation team building? No need to go after eachother. Obviously both sides have become frustrated. It is time to evolve and work together the best way possible. Terb was always so good before in that regard. Many agencies spas and independents have come to know many terb members and lyla members because the good ones use their handles as a reference. The newbies i dont think are grasping this and its causing much unneccessary drama and head butting. I do hope to see some sort evolution in this regard. God knows us providers are yearning for it. Trust people. We need more trust and a little more manners. Lets please for the love of god leave the misogyny and sexism at the door. We can build and maintain very good client provider relations but we need to try a bit harder and approach is everything. U only get 1 chance to make a good impression in lofe. Same goes for hobbying. It would be great to see less paranoia and more understanding and maturity. I dont want to keep griping but ottawa needs more maturity when it comes to hobbying in this industry. How can it ever become completely legal on both sides if there isnt maturity and a willingness to continue to be open minded and possess a progressive thought process. Xo we need to work together.

SERIOUS girl crush xx

 

[Cigarman16]

SERIOUS girl crush xx

Well maybe a duo massage with Alma and NicoleR could be in order

 

[RachelNicole]

Well maybe a duo massage with Alma and NicoleR could be in order

Lol u wish!!! Seriously, her words should have given many pause. Naysayers accomplish nothing

 

[Alison_xox]

Wow !!!
I am happy to read all of your comments on the thread. Very interesting to confirm that Ottawa definitely have a No show issues/reputation..
Maybe if all the providers would always ask for transfer in order to book would be the solution ? But I think the clients would not be happy about that.. Very unfortunate because it would definitely solve the problem once for all...

Question to you Alison:

Do you request e-transfer to all new clients or just the ones that have no reference?
Just asking...

Just the ones that have no references, that previously cancelled last minute or the ones on the blacklist for no show.
Also if you are booking a 2-3 hour session I am asking a transfer deposit because if I am booking you , I can't book someone else so if you don't show , it makes me lose a big part of my day.

I also ask a transfer if you are texting me 30 times/day to ask stupid questions. It is so annoying to receive texts from the same person that never book but ask 1000 questions .. Those guys are usually texting for months so I am not losing my time anymore with that. I have a website with all the details clients needs to know ( rates, services, location,specials, schedule etc...) So unless you have pertinent questions, it should be no reasons for a potential client to text me 10 times in a day... More then 10 texts , I am asking for a deposit in order to keep texting you.. It takes less then 10 texts to book a session.

By the way, thank you all for making this thread alive. I like to read your comments.

kisses
Alisonxox