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This is also very true. We have it really good in Canada regarding hobbying, in more ways than one...
I think we should just have a super thread and make it a sticky....lol. We could call it "The Ultimate Rates Thread".
There's a lot more money in the U.S so it's all relative. Also, both markets will have price points for everyone's budget.
SPs can charge whatever they want. The point of this thread was whether rate increases of 25% or more are smart when most of us are unlikely to get a raise of 3% or more this year
Very true and sometimes to keep the lady happy and not lose her to the indy route they promote them to VIP until the SP in question starts to complain why her bookings have gone down albeit for the few who are good and actually are hot enough to justify VIP.
Here is an example of a tweet. I won't mention the lady as it's not necassary but suffice to say she works in Montreal. Her fee is $350.00/hr when young pretty agency girls are $200 to $220 per hour.
#Sexwork is a very unstable field of work and some of us can spend significant amounts of time NOT knowing when the next booking will be.
These periods make us more vulnerable to shadier clients - even more if we don't have the privilege to turn business down...
Does it take a genius to realize she's priced herself out of the market and this is the reason it's an unstable career choice?
I dunno,
But your post is based on your personal views as opposed to those of all hobbyists.
1- Just 'cuz you can't afford $350 doesn't mean that everyone else can't
2- Those who can afford $350 might prefer those ladies who don't work as often for hygiene, scheduling or other issues
3- Raising their prices may weed out some 'shadier clients', one reason she states the biz is unstable
Personally, I don't know the answers to those questions and you'd do better if you polled the indies who post here and ask them.
I can afford it and still see 4 or 5 ladies a month but I'm not foolish and believe in smoke and mirrors , sorry.
Also, is a client paying 400 hr safer than a client paying $250, please show me the stats because evil men come in all financial brackets as far as I know.
Sophia Sinclair
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I recall sitting on a board for the Psychology Department as one of two student representatives. It made decisions that affected all undergraduates. Often, when presented with all the facts a decision was a no brainer. However, I remember thinking how some of the changes we made would appear to the general student populace as unfair, etc. on the surface. When I read some of these comments I'm reminded of this. It's easy to say things when you're on the outside looking in, but until you've walked in the other person's shoes you really don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I prefer informed ones to speculation, etc.
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You're a numbers guy and so are we. It is all about the numbers. At $400/hr, the calibre of men, what they want and what they are willing to give, is different than guys in the under $250 range. I don't have a hard time screening for two reasons. 1. I don't need your money do if you don't want to screen, I could care less. 2. I have built a rep. It is that simple in that equation.
But many at the $250 and certainly below that amount, have serious issues with screening.
Screening makes things safer for me. When men don't want to screen and women are left with no choice but to not screen, that is when the bad guys can find the cracks in the system and finds the most vulnerable people to target. At $400/hr rates, screening is standard. So, of course, women would love to stay in that realm. Let's be real though, screening happens from $250+ so a lady could be in the $300/hr and could still have the best of both worlds.
In the example of the tweet you gave. First thing you think is what you did. Lower your rates to make more. That is what makes sense. But it doesn't because some of us don't want to open ourselves up to the possible unsafe things that can and do impact us.
This is not even getting into the time-wasters, low-ballers, unhygienic etc. I'm sorry to the say this but while there is always a gem at the bottom of the barrel and asshole at the top, I would rather stay weeding one asshole out of few at the top, then a tonne of them for that one gem at the bottom.
Top and bottom in the case being the money scale and not meant in any other offensive way.
And to add, I will give another example. Texting. Everyone wants to text for appointments, it is so much easier. Many women advertise their phone number directly. I don't and I can say I never will unless someone else is answering that phone. Why? Because I don't want to deal with the hassle of men who have no respect for "hookers" even though they are wanting to get laid by one.
Here is a tweet, since we like sharing tweets. This was brought as a warning from a man to other men because the number of the tweeting man is showing. I can't help that but I don't really want to in this case. This is a standard for women in the industry. If you have not been threatened like this one within the first year of working, you are considered privileged and I am not joking about that fact.
The last tweet in the series was sent 1 year later after no contact and as a random text.
https://twitter.com/SensualSadi/status/1079206020927283200
I don't want to read these types of texts for any reason. Hense, I don't have an advertised phone number. Many men think I am crazy for that. Many men think I think I am some elitist bitch because of it. Like I think I'm so special that I don't give them my phone number before booking me.
My point - we all have our own reasons for doing things. Things that work for us and yes, it may mean we don't get everything we want, or like, but we personally do what we feel we need to. Even though on the outside it looks nuts and self-harming business wise.
SS was right when she said, you don't know the other side of the coin. You don't know her personal side of the coin, so making a judgment is really nothing more an uninfirmed, ignorant opinion.
Which I know you, squeezer, will take as the uninsulting manner it is intended.
Participation in the sex industry is considered a luxury as opposed to a necessity (although for some guys I guess the latter applies more) and like many goods and services that are considered luxury items, the quality, reputation, demand and price vary greatly. Sometimes there is no rhyme and reason why some things are much more expensive than something else when both appear very similar but for those providing the service/product, they have targeted their market and valued their products/themselves accordingly. As clients/consumers, we have the CHOICE to pick one over the other. If we want and can afford the higher priced one, we buy it. If we cannot, we purchase the lower priced item/service or don't purchase anything.
For example, purchasing Champagne. If you go to the LCBO , there are many different types of Champagne available to be purchased. There are even some brands that are made by the same company but under a different name. The price however has a huge range. Why? Because that is how the manufacturers of Champagne want to price their products. Does it mean a lower priced Champagne is not as good as the higher priced Champagne. From personal experience, not that I could tell. To me, they are all the same as I do not have the "refined" senses to tell the differences between them. So why did I purchase the higher priced bottle of Champagne? I had to buy Champagne for a very special occasion and with that being the case, I selected a bottle that was over $225. I have had it before and didn't think there was a difference between that and the Champagne I bought at $80. But, for the occasion I wanted something that was "perceived" as special. And it was. Many, if not all, of those at the function were ecstatic at having the opportunity to have Champagne that they have never had before. Did they like it more than the lower priced Champagne they were used to. Probably not but they were impressed nonetheless. Our society has varying price levels for all products and services and we as consumers have a choice to choose which ones we would like to purchase.
I have no issue with guys here giving their opinion but for it to come up so much and with so much negativity is uncalled for. I hear the comment, this is a review board so it is relevant. Well it is a review board but to always make generalized comments is ignorant. If you have never seen someone how can you say she is not worth the money she is asking. I have respect for one guy here who actually gave examples to support his position on the matter. To me that is relevant. 98% of the other comments are totally useless and ignorant. Besides, why do guys who will never see a women priced out of their range follow them on social media and in some cases contact them to ask about things. These guys have real issues. I don't understand why they have to attack women for selecting the market and price level they have selected just because it is outside of what they want to pay.
Just a thought. The majority of negative comments and reviews you see on this board are for providers that are at the so-called acceptable price levels (excluding the ones touring from Montreal-that is what review boards are for). I guess you get what you pay for.
For example, purchasing Champagne. If you go to the LCBO , there are many different types of Champagne available to be purchased. There are even some brands that are made by the same company but under a different name. The price however has a huge range. Why? Because that is how the manufacturers of Champagne want to price their products. Does it mean a lower priced Champagne is not as good as the higher priced Champagne. From personal experience, not that I could tell. To me, they are all the same as I do not have the "refined" senses to tell the differences between them. So why did I purchase the higher priced bottle of Champagne? I had to buy Champagne for a very special occasion and with that being the case, I selected a bottle that was over $225. I have had it before and didn't think there was a difference between that and the Champagne I bought at $80. But, for the occasion I wanted something that was "perceived" as special. And it was. Many, if not all, of those at the function were ecstatic at having the opportunity to have Champagne that they have never had before. Did they like it more than the lower priced Champagne they were used to. Probably not but they were impressed nonetheless. Our society has varying price levels for all products and services and we as consumers have a choice to choose which ones we would like to purchase.
I have no issue with guys here giving their opinion but for it to come up so much and with so much negativity is uncalled for. I hear the comment, this is a review board so it is relevant. Well it is a review board but to always make generalized comments is ignorant. If you have never seen someone how can you say she is not worth the money she is asking. I have respect for one guy here who actually gave examples to support his position on the matter. To me that is relevant. 98% of the other comments are totally useless and ignorant. Besides, why do guys who will never see a women priced out of their range follow them on social media and in some cases contact them to ask about things. These guys have real issues. I don't understand why they have to attack women for selecting the market and price level they have selected just because it is outside of what they want to pay.
Just a thought. The majority of negative comments and reviews you see on this board are for providers that are at the so-called acceptable price levels (excluding the ones touring from Montreal-that is what review boards are for). I guess you get what you pay for.
I’m not sure the economic situation affects this industry as much as most industries, it’s closer to the entertainment category, and people who can afford to visit escorts aren’t concerned about a few dollars or putting food on the table.
Escorts on the other hand, want a raise like the rest of us, figure they deserve a good return for thier hard work, and put up thier rates. Those who can afford it will have no problem paying for good service.
The very best girls in this business will have no problem charging more. I suspect some needed to put up thier rates because they were too busy at thier old rate.
I don’t have a problem paying a premium for great service from a beautiful lady.
It seems to me there are many many choices and different ranges, should be enough to satisfy everyone. If you want a bargain, go for it, Someone above mentioned a $60 girl, go for it if that’s what you like.
Personally, I go for lady’s in the 200-300 range. I’m happy with the level of service for that. Some have priced themselves out of my range. I found and DM’d a new Twitter lady yesterday, she told me to check out her website. When I saw 500/h I didn’t read any further, and blocked. I don’t need to know and good luck to them.
There are a couple ladies I see who I think should charge more. I think thier agency should add a VIP level. The best lady’s are busy, hard to book, and will probably burn out or go elsewhere.
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