Rates need to be lowered - Would a rate decrease influence you?

[Ebony Booty Lover]

It is has Josephine said - it is a bullshit carrot dangling line. If you are going to be a regular, just be one. Why do we need to know in the first contact that you want to be one? All you are really trying to ensure is that you personally get the best service with this line. It has nothing to do with us. Half the clientele out there are looking for a regular. The other half want variety. There is really only the two options. A good provide knows how to give her best all the time so that those looking for a regular will just become one and those looking for variety will always have a spot for you in their spank bank. At least that is how I operate.

See this is an interesting perspective. The reason is mention and because I'm browsing LL. Because I'm looking for something extremely specific and it takes me 3-4 sessions just to get comfortable. (sometimes even longer) and so many of the girls on LL are on there one day and gone the next, so I don't want to have to do all that BS again of finding one I like, then seeing them a bunch of times before I become comfortable, etc...

So from my end, it's not a carrot dangling tactic. It's a more me saying "if your escorting to make a few quick bucks for a month, I'm not interested".

To bad so many guys out there are using it as such tactic and ruined it for guys like me that basically are just trying to make sure the escort they find isn't one and done and will at least be around for a while.

 

[kherg007]

It's called carrot dangling hun. Not 1 client that promises to be a regular will actually become one. It does the same effect to us as:

- I will start by hh and go longer if you are good
- I read wonderful reviews about you, hope the hype is real
- I really want to do an overnight/trip with you soon. Just need to get to know you better with shorter session.
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I agree I'm sure there are blokes who try and leverage all the time. Sound like you ladies w a bit of experience recognize this pretty quick which is good. I imagine you now and then do take the date, but does it then tarnish the client?

I do a fair number of reviews, but never occurred to me to mention it prior to a booking, or during a booking, as I reckon it would brand me an arsehole lol. I remember an old gf whose previous bf was psychologically abusive and he'd always be doing shit to manipulate and/or leverage her. Saying "if you play your cards right, then maybe..." was a big part of that douchebag's vocabulary.
I wonder how many blokes realize these leverage efforts instantly put you into a different category.

 

[Ebony Booty Lover]

I agree I'm sure there are blokes who try and leverage all the time. Sound like you ladies w a bit of experience recognize this pretty quick which is good. I imagine you now and then do take the date, but does it then tarnish the client?

I do a fair number of reviews, but never occurred to me to mention it prior to a booking, or during a booking as I reckon it would brand me an arsehole lol. I remember an old gf whose previous bf was psychologically abusive and he'd always be doing shit to manipulate and/or leverage her. Saying "if you play your cards right, then maybe..." was a big part of that douchebag's vocabulary.
I wonder how many blokes realize these leverage efforts instantly put you into a different category.

It's an interesting perspective Kherg. I never really thought of it that way. Like I mentioned above, it was more me trying to make sure the SP is going to be in this line of work for a while so I don't have to do the search all over again.

 

[K Douglas]

Y'all still believe that inflation is only tracking to about 3% per year? At its peak back in June 2022 they said it was only 8%. Here are the official rates the past three years:
2021 - 3.4%
2022 - 6.8%
2023 - 3.9%
2024 ~3.0%

That's a cumulative inflation rise of 17.1% yet MPA/SP rates gone up on average by at least 30% (being conservative) since 2020. So either we're being gouged by the ladies or the government isn't telling us the truth.

 

[Ebony Booty Lover]

That's a cumulative inflation rise of 17.1% yet MPA/SP rates gone up on average by at least 30% (being conservative) since 2020. So either we're being gouged by the ladies or the government isn't telling us the truth.

Not doubting you, but curious as to how your coming up with that number. You have to know what specific ladies were charging back in 2021 vs 2024

or maybe you remember exactly what certain agencies were charging.

 

[kherg007]

It's an interesting perspective Kherg. I never really thought of it that way. Like I mentioned above, it was more me trying to make sure the SP is going to be in this line of work for a while so I don't have to do the search all over again.

A reasonable hope for sure.
A good reg is wonderful to have. Unfortunately the nature of the biz is that ladies enter and leave often at what seems random times. Sometimes a lady retires because of a BF, a proper square job, a bad experience, etc. Can't predict it.
Ladies who've been around a year or so are usually a better bet. But it is a bet. Good luck!

 

[Josephine]

I agree I'm sure there are blokes who try and leverage all the time. Sound like you ladies w a bit of experience recognize this pretty quick which is good. I imagine you now and then do take the date, but does it then tarnish the client?

I do a fair number of reviews, but never occurred to me to mention it prior to a booking, or during a booking, as I reckon it would brand me an arsehole lol. I remember an old gf whose previous bf was psychologically abusive and he'd always be doing shit to manipulate and/or leverage her. Saying "if you play your cards right, then maybe..." was a big part of that douchebag's vocabulary.
I wonder how many blokes realize these leverage efforts instantly put you into a different category.

It absolutely tarnish your image and I might not go through the booking. It's not worth it. It's not good business. You know someone is blatantly manipulating you so what is the next thing he will try.

Unfortunately in this business the only thing we really have to protect ourselves is our gut and pick up on things like this.

 

[Daddy2021]

Y'all still believe that inflation is only tracking to about 3% per year? At its peak back in June 2022 they said it was only 8%. Here are the official rates the past three years:
2021 - 3.4%
2022 - 6.8%
2023 - 3.9%
2024 ~3.0%

That's a cumulative inflation rise of 17.1% yet MPA/SP rates gone up on average by at least 30% (being conservative) since 2020. So either we're being gouged by the ladies or the government isn't telling us the truth.

Gouged?? They don’t owe it to you to be within your budget. It’s not a day to day necessity. It’s a service YOU are seeking. If you can’t afford it then you don’t need to be getting the service.

 

[Josephine]

It's an interesting perspective Kherg. I never really thought of it that way. Like I mentioned above, it was more me trying to make sure the SP is going to be in this line of work for a while so I don't have to do the search all over again.

You will find your regular babe but not like that.

 

[K Douglas]

Gouged?? They don’t owe it to you to be within your budget. It’s not a day to day necessity. It’s a service YOU are seeking. If you can’t afford it then you don’t need to be getting the service.

You're right they don't. I'm just using the term in its general sense. It is a market after all. And for the record I think its a case of the latter, not the former.

 

[K Douglas]

Not doubting you, but curious as to how your coming up with that number. You have to know what specific ladies were charging back in 2021 vs 2024

or maybe you remember exactly what certain agencies were charging.

Mostly through observation I haven't done the math, so to speak. All I see is that indies that use to be $300-$350/hour are now more like $450-$500/hour

 

[Josephine]

See this is an interesting perspective. The reason I mention and because I'm browsing LL, is because I'm looking for something extremely specific and it takes me 3-4 sessions just to get comfortable. Sometimes even longer and so many of the girls on LL are on there one day and gone the next, so I don't want to have to do all that BS again of finding one I like, then seeing them a bunch of times before I become comfortable, etc...

So from my end it's not a carrot dangling tactic. It's a more me saying "if your escorting to make a quick bucks for a month, I'm not interested".

To bad so many guys out that using it as such and ruined for guys like me that basically just trying to make the escort they find and click with will at least be around for a while.

If I recall your previous post (because I wanted to tell you you were carrot dangling then but i held myself as it was not a good timing) there was a price too with your request. You were asking the lady to do a massage thing at 220hr. The reception of this kind of request were not good and now you know why.

 

[wonderingeye]

A very interesting spin to a valid question.

In response to the OP, I have a monthly budget which I elect to spend on this indulgence. It could be on a single experience or on 3 ladies. My choice. Mostly opt for the latter. Can't see the value.

I would appreciate seeing someone who is priced at the higher end; however, I am not a charity case.

And understand, one's last price is one's current price. So dropping a rate wouldn't be wise for the lady.

Lastly contacting a lady with the expectation of seeing at a discounted, doesn't seem to be appealing either.

 

[Mister pantstent]

One time I booked a lady not knowing the advertised rate was a discounted rate. I didn't see any of her previous ads and reached out.

When I got there, she told me it was a discounted rare...not sure why that was valid information as I booked a session and agreed to pay an advertised rate.

She reminded me throughout the entire session that her rate was discounted. To me, this was a normal session. I'm pretty vanilla and don't ask for things that may merit paying additional fees for kink.

After being told dozens of times in a very short time, I stopped and started getting dressed. She asked what I was doing. I told her I didn't need to continuously feel like I'm cheap or a charity case. She seemed puzzled. I seldom get aggressive and always stay the gentleman, but this was one time I didn't regret telling someone to fuck off

My point to the OP, if you decide to run a sale and someone utilizes the offer, don't make them feel less than.

 

[_Melissa]

I really think that you should do what you feel is right and market towards the demographic you feel will bring you the most stability and longevity (and the least headaches). I’ve seen both sides of the coin. On the one hand you can lower your rate to attract a demographic of clients that are just as highly affected by the drastic economy changes and may need to rely more on the SWs at a lower price point. Many of them may be able to afford to book you more often as a result.

On the other hand I’ve also seen ladies increase their rate so they can attract a new demographic of clients that aren’t quite as affected by the economy and specifically only look for ladies at a higher price point. (If you think about it, these ladies literally could NOT charge 800+ per hour if there wasn’t someone out there paying it!) Sure you may lose a lot of clients who don’t wish to go beyond their budget and maybe see less in a day but then it opens doors for others to find you and you fall right within their budget instead. Actually some of the clients I have now that have been so amazing to me, I never would have met if I didn’t increase my rate because they look for girls between 400 - 500 for example. Nothing more and nothing less.

So it really just depends which market you’re more comfortable catering to. Both sides require a lot of hard work but in completely opposite ways. Neither side is wrong or unworthy it just depends on your comfort level and what’s best for you and the clients you wish to see! It also depends on how much or how little you want to work and what you have the energy for.

I offer discounts myself once in a very blue moon! It allows me to meet new friends from different walks of life from time to time to spice things up. Many admit that they can’t see me when my rate goes back up and that’s totally ok! No judgement here! But then there are those who see me as well worth it no matter the cost and continue to book me after. In fact there are at least 2 maybe 3 guys on this board I could mention off the top of my head that have been seeing me since I was 220/hr 6 or so years ago. They still see me to this day at 400/hr and every rate increase I had in between! So my prices have gone down here and there but my prices have also definitely gone up too!

With all that being said, I say follow your heart and your instincts! Whatever your price point I know the guys will love you! Xo

 

[_Melissa]

Wow I completely agree with you here! Sorry you went through that experience!

The only time I’d remind a client that it was a discounted rate is if he’s reaching out to book again and I have to double check that he is aware of my regular rate. Only because I’ve had clients in the past show up the second time expecting to pay the discounted rate again when the promotion was long over. Some have pretended to forget and others genuinely did forget. To avoid this happening I have to ask and confirm!

 

[kherg007]

I really think that you should do what you feel is right and market towards the demographic you feel will bring you the most stability and longevity (and the least headaches). I’ve seen both sides of the coin. On the one hand you can lower your rate to attract a demographic of clients that are just as highly affected by the drastic economy changes and may need to rely more on the SWs at a lower price point. Many of them may be able to afford to book you more often as a result.

On the other hand I’ve also seen ladies increase their rate so they can attract a new demographic of clients that aren’t quite as affected by the economy and specifically only look for ladies at a higher price point. (If you think about it, these ladies literally could NOT charge 800+ per hour if there wasn’t someone out there paying it!) Sure you may lose a lot of clients who don’t wish to go beyond their budget and maybe see less in a day but then it opens doors for others to find you and you fall right within their budget instead. Actually some of the clients I have now that have been so amazing to me, I never would have met if I didn’t increase my rate because they look for girls between 400 - 500 for example. Nothing more and nothing less.

So it really just depends which market you’re more comfortable catering to. Both sides require a lot of hard work but in completely opposite ways. Neither side is wrong or unworthy it just depends on your comfort level and what’s best for you and the clients you wish to see! It also depends on how much or how little you want to work and what you have the energy for.

I offer discounts myself once in a very blue moon! It allows me to meet new friends from different walks of life from time to time to spice things up. Many admit that they can’t see me when my rate goes back up and that’s totally ok! No judgement here! But then there are those who see me as well worth it no matter the cost and continue to book me after. In fact there are at least 2 maybe 3 guys on this board I could mention off the top of my head that have been seeing me since I was 220/hr 6 or so years ago. They still see me to this day at 400/hr and every rate increase I had in between! So my prices have gone down here and there but my prices have also definitely gone up too!

With all that being said, I say follow your heart and your instincts! Whatever your price point I know the guys will love you! Xo

 

[LC18]

My point to the OP, if you decide to run a sale and someone utilizes the offer, don't make them feel less than.

I am not laughing but that’s crazy. What kind of business is that. This person has 0 business skills.

Ok cool there’s a sale, warn the person by text message once and just proceed with the session as usual. If they want to book later tell them politely that the rate is different because the sale is over.

What a massive turn off. So sorry for you

 

[oil&gas]

Rates charged by escorts are like gasoline prices and their clients
are SUV drivers who show little concern of climate charge. Gas price
hikes invariably piss off drivers but no price cut will satisfy them. What
you may not expect is that prices at the pump can be hiked to $2 per liter
and people will continue driving their SUV with no abandon. Demand
for gasoline is more or less inelastic. IMO the right thing to do is NOT to
reduce your rate. You may lose a handful of cheapo clients. It is up
to you to decide whether it serves your interest to maintain your income
level without having to work more hours. Remember you may
have a hard time bringing your rate back up at a later time.