Rates need to be lowered - Would a rate decrease influence you?

[Ebony Booty Lover]

Either i see girl at asking price or i don't. I am not buying a bbq and looking for best rebate. I am buying a fantasy. Just give me a rate that will make us both feel comfortable. Either i accept the rate or i pass on.

that makes zero sense. The grand father rate is the rate. All that happens is because you're a regular client so they're not charging their new higher rates. If you been them for years at a certain rate, your now going to feel uncomfortable not paying the rate you've already been paying for years?

 

[y2kmark]

I’m half serious.

I don’t think rates need to be lowered but I do think the inflation is beating all of our a**** and I wish it didnt but alas. If it wasn’t the case then you’d probably see more of those back in the days rates.

We are basically small businesses owners and can’t really do anything than follow the inflation. Even McDonald’s has raised their prices, the McValue menu doesn’t mean a thing anymore.

In all seriousness, if a provider that’s always been out of your budget lowered her rates or gave discounts, would you think it’s weird? Would you think it’s a trap? Would you go see her?

Google the term "elasticity of demand". Understanding the concept should provide some insight...

 

[jalimon]

that makes zero sense. The grand father rate is the rate. All that happens is because you a regular client they're not charging their new higher rates. If you been them for years at certain rate, your going to feel uncomfortable not paying the rate you've already been paying for years?

I know i tried it. Until the girl canceled me twice. I then discovered that however great i am i will get second to any client going full rate.

 

[Snapcat]

I know i tried it. Until the girl canceled me twice. I then discovered that however great i am i will get second to any client going full rate.

Agree
Grandfather rates make me uncomfortable; unless an sp were to insist and even then I would likely pay the new rate, I don't want to be a second class client.
I've had 'offers' of a lower grandfather rate, the sp advertised it but I paid the new rate anyway (wasn't a big change).
Another time the sp told me she was thinking of raising her rate to $X, I guess my face showed surprise and she said 'not for you' (or words to that effect) but when I next met and gave her the new rate she didn't say anything like 'hey that's too much'

Of course I think I've only had one sp ask if an amount I've given in excess of her rate was a mistake (it was an extra gift for her)

 

[Funtimez77]

If you give your best, which I know you do, it will just bring your reg to check in more often and it will bring new clientele that might chose to enjoy the promo over something regular price they already have experienced. That's what it does for me when I put my 3hr promo. And I rather see my reg twice a month at 600×2 than once at 800...

That's exactly my thought process. If my regular who I see usually 1-2x a month raised her rates, I'd still see her but with decreased frequency. Certain months if I can tell her up-front that I want to see her 2x that month, she actually discounts $75 from her two hour rate for me. No, I didn't ask her for it, she was the one who proposed it and said she rather see me 2x a month at a slight discount than 1x a month at the 'full' rate. I'd say win-win for both of us.

 

[Ebony Booty Lover]

I know i tried it. Until the girl canceled me twice. I then discovered that however great i am i will get second to any client going full rate.

Interesting.

 

[Josephine]

That's exactly my thought process. If my regular who I see usually 1-2x a month raised her rates, I'd still see her but with decreased frequency. Certain months if I can tell her up-front that I want to see her 2x that month, she actually discounts $75 from her two hour rate for me. No, I didn't ask her for it, she was the one who proposed it and said she rather see me 2x a month at a slight discount than 1x a month at the 'full' rate. I'd say win-win for both of us.

You have to reward good business. I know few won't agree with me because it's intimacy and personal, but I let that at the door the day I decided to put a price on it.

 

[NotADcotor]

I have my budget and I see who I want to see within reason.
I am not spending 400 or 500 bucks an hour unless the girl is an utter dead ringer for the likes of a Kate Micucci and reasonably easy to see.

 

[Funtimez77]

You have to reward good business. I know few won't agree with me because it's intimacy and personal, but I let that at the door the day I decided to put a price on it.

I'll add that yes, the whole thing here is transactional and feelings have no place but you can't tell me with a 'regular' there isn't intimacy and trust that gets built over time. That sexual intimacy when you are repeating whether with a 'civie' or an 'SP' is what makes sex so good. With my regular (not always), I have sent her the full amount up-front many times and many times I have sent her the EMT and I have had to remind her a week after to accept it.

My point is that for me currently being super busy with work and life, I actually don't have time to either look for new SPs all the time or even date. So when you have a regular where you can trust and there is good sexual intimacy where both of you have actually enjoy the sex, why not reward "good business". She rewards me with a discount, I reward her with repeat business and we both have a good time. No lie, the last time I saw her, it was probably one of the best sexual experiences of my life. After we went at it pretty hard and were just lying in our sweat and juices, she marked, "Wow, this just keeps on getting better and better". She could be acting but I don't think so and frankly I don't care.

So yes, you have to be mindful of the transactional nature of the business, but within that there is a some grey where you can actually have genuine fun for both people. At least that's the way I see it.

 

[LC18]

This is how the savvy SP’s stay in business long term. Market theory seems to be ignored by the simple SP’s. That’s why they never make it big over the year or years - they are too short sighted. Take Angelina DD or Angel at DD, for example. IMO they could easily up their rates from $250/hr. Instead they keep their rates firm at $250/hr. They both provide solid reliable service. Regulars stay being regulars and new clients are always incentivized to give them a try. Thus, they have steady business year after year. The SP’s at higher rates may make more money in the short term but almost never in the long term, by comparison.

That’s also a matter of more accessible rates might attract too many people which I don’t want. I like that not as many people contact me. I have lighter days and don’t see too many people (for my liking)

 

[LC18]

Last time I saw her was 5 years ago and I know she's great - but she wants $400 an hour now. And she doesn't give you a discount if you book multiple hours.

Thats something I’ve always tried to do. I prefer longer bookings because in my opinion they feel more natural and we can both take our time. I’ve structured my rates so that it makes more sense to book longer dates than shorter ones.

For exemple my 60 minsrate is 400 but my 90 mins one is 450. People often ask if it’s a mistake, no it’s not

 

[LC18]

I contact them telling them I'm looking to be a regular

In my experience, men saying things like this aren’t taken seriously.

 

[LC18]

worst grand-father rate

You probably didn’t know but: The racial history of the grandfather clause

 

[kherg007]

I've appreciated being given the original rate when a lady gets successful and starts raising her rates (and yes ebony ladies telling me they're "grandfathering" me in on the rates. Hmm..but now that I think about it maybe because of my grandfatherly look lol). Anyhow, it enables a longer booking.

I've done a few "discounted/intro" rates that an agency might put forward to see a lady I might have been on the fence for. I do recall a lady who became a reg for whom she was on an intro rate, and I was her first client. We spoke a lot about the biz and I gave her tips on what to watch out for from predatory type blokes. I saw her right before she retired and she was in such a good place financially and mentally it brought great joy and she kept in touch after leaving the biz.

Thus a discount might push me over the line if its someone I'm curious about, but not gaga over. But if it's a lady who's not my type it would not affect me at all.

 

[Ebony Booty Lover]

In my experience, men saying things like this aren’t taken seriously.

I'm not sure why that is, but you would know better then me. Maybe cause they hear it all the time.

 

[Josephine]

I'm not sure why that is, but you would know better then me. Maybe cause they hear it all the time.

It's called carrot dangling hun. Not 1 client that promises to be a regular will actually become one. It does the same effect to us as:

- I will start by hh and go longer if you are good
- I read wonderful reviews about you, hope the hype is real
- I really want to do an overnight/trip with you soon. Just need to get to know you better with shorter session.
- client is constantly texting you saying he will see you soon. But he never book.

 

[Jenesis]

I'm not sure why that is, but you would know better then me. Maybe cause they hear it all the time.

It is has Josephine said - it is a bullshit carrot dangling line. If you are going to be a regular, just be one. Why do we need to know in the first contact that you want to be one? All you are really trying to ensure is that you personally get the best service with this line. It has nothing to do with us. Half the clientele out there are looking for a regular. The other half want variety. There is really only the two options. A good provide knows how to give her best all the time so that those looking for a regular will just become one and those looking for variety will always have a spot for you in their spank bank. At least that is how I operate.

 

[Lv Wmn]

A rate special is unlikely to get me to book, I mean sure nice to have but it is not a deal maker for me.

Today? Biggest "problem" I have is traffic getting downtown and back. I am sure many of you are working downtown already and battled the traffic just to get to work.

Just me but today when I see someone that I am interested in but they host downtown only, I am not going. I will stick with Etobicoke, Mississauga and airport area for the foreseeable future while these Gardner repairs continue.

 

[Josephine]

A rate special is unlikely to get me to book, I mean sure nice to have but it is not a deal maker for me.

Today? Biggest "problem" I have is traffic getting downtown and back. I am sure many of you are working downtown already and battled the traffic just to get to work.

Just me but today when I see someone that I am interested in but they host downtown only, I am not going. I will stick with Etobicoke, Mississauga and airport area for the foreseeable future while these Gardner repairs continue.

It's a true nightmare! The traffic start at my exit and I can see all the car in a line at Lakeshore

 

[Josephine]

I'll add that yes, the whole thing here is transactional and feelings have no place but you can't tell me with a 'regular' there isn't intimacy and trust that gets built over time. That sexual intimacy when you are repeating whether with a 'civie' or an 'SP' is what makes sex so good. With my regular (not always), I have sent her the full amount up-front many times and many times I have sent her the EMT and I have had to remind her a week after to accept it.

My point is that for me currently being super busy with work and life, I actually don't have time to either look for new SPs all the time or even date. So when you have a regular where you can trust and there is good sexual intimacy where both of you have actually enjoy the sex, why not reward "good business". She rewards me with a discount, I reward her with repeat business and we both have a good time. No lie, the last time I saw her, it was probably one of the best sexual experiences of my life. After we went at it pretty hard and were just lying in our sweat and juices, she marked, "Wow, this is just keeps on getting better and better". She could be acting but I don't think so and frankly I don't care.

So yes, you have to be mindful of the transactional nature of the business, but within that there is a some grey where you can actually have genuine fun for both people. At least that's the way I see it.

Oh no lol once again me not expressing myself properly. Offering discount is frowned upon because they say that since it's human to human you shouldn't do that. But I am a bit tired of this pocket watching like someone said. I entirely agree with you.