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Question for clients: Does anyone know you see providers?

trytolikeme

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Never told anybody but I have a feeling my brother knows and obviously my doctor cuz I usually get checked
 

legmann

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Dec 2, 2001
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T.O.
Pretty sure I've drunkenly admitted it to a couple of close friends and openly told another - but nowhere near the full extent of the truth!
 

NHFL

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i'm curious... what kind of 'slip ups'?
I won't reveal too much details, but people should be careful where they park, what areas of Now they read and ensure that their smartphones are not visible from certain angles.
 

milehigh

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On the other foot, a good friend of mine who was a SP, started hanging out with another girl in her apartment. They became pretty good friends, so after a time, she confided she was an escort. The other girl didn't take it too well and kept wanting to get help for her. My friend said she didn't need any. So the other girl called the police. The Police came over, told her to cease and desist, and she had to move to a new building...... so the girls have it much harder in this regard.

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To Alison, the originator.

At hockey scrimmages, on the ice, I quickly ask one of the guys on the other team if he has seen my recommendation to him lately. He says yes, and gives me the thumbs up...... he was very specific about the service. Just an example of, the talk. I don't think it is gossipy or anything like that... just help pointing someone to their preference, or a recommendation.
 

Polecat

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Aug 27, 2005
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Hell yes a couple buddies and I openly talk and compare various SP, but of course we're all single, by the way it upsets other friends that are married and stuck with one girl. They claim they are true to thier wives, right!!!
 

baileydog

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Aug 15, 2011
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yes, several close friends know ... one is also semi active in this world and we have occasionally headed out to the same agency location, but to see girls separately lol we are not that good of friends
 

alwayswantto

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Since I am single and kids are grown I really dont care what people think anymore. People often say to me "you need a woman in your life" and to that I tell them I have plenty, and for an hour at a time, and I am treated better than any girl friend or wife ever did. Ill admit I wont bring the subject up in a normal conversation because my sex life is nobodies business but mine, but if Im asked I wont deny it

BTW Alison you look amazing
Yep, same for me. Most of my male friends are jealous.
 

Rockslinger

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This was a couple of hundred years ago, but when I was young and foolish some of my friends and I would hire escorts for stag parties:Eek:.
 

fuji

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Yes, but not the extent. I had a gf three or four years ago who would do threesomes with an SP with me. But she probably believes it is something I do once in a blue moon. No one else knows.
 

oil&gas

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Apr 16, 2002
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If you remain single into your 30s and 40s many of those around
you would figure it out. They just didn't ask you to confirm their
suspicion out of respect for your privacy.
 

AllisonElm

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My close friends know that I hobby. And when I met my SO I was very upfront about it. She met my ATF SP , and they became friends, even invited her to our wedding. Have had a couple 3somes with my SO and a couple of different SPs. She still knows I see them, but as long as its only for BJs, she doesnt mind.
Your SO sounds lovely.
 

AllisonElm

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I haven't told anyone, and I don't know what I would say if someone asked... it would depend on the person.

I don't really care what "society" thinks of the hobby - I generally have a more sophisticated view of life than the vast majority of people I meet, and I don't happen to think there is anything immoral about the kind of hobbying I do. It is a totally consensual thing, everyone involved is fully apprised of the situation, and is free to say NO at any point to any behavior I might exhibit or suggest. For me it is about engaging in an appreciation of beauty and pleasure in an atmosphere of mutual respect. And I do respect these women, some of them are among the most interesting and talented people I have ever met.

I don't do monogamy, and I don't want a nuclear family. Normals find this unsettling, so I don't bother them by telling them what I do. I am happy to talk about this stuff in a general way with anyone who brings it up, but I don't volunteer any personal info. I don't talk about sexuality in anything other than a general way as a rule, and I especially don't talk particulars about encounters as it just seems like bragging or tattling... I don't need the boost some people seem to get from blabbing about their experiences.

I enjoy the general anonymity of big city life - I have no family in the city, I don't want to know my neighbors, I make friends around my real interests, and not based on the fact that they work with me or live near me. I am happy to get along, but I really don't care what any of these people think.

It is possible (or perhaps probable) that some of my neighbors know that I receive female visitors that they would consider rather more exotic than they expect, based on who I appear to be. That doesn't matter to me, because they are unimportant to my life. If any neighbor made any comments, I'd strongly suggest they stay out of my business, lest I start poking around theirs.

Who would I tell? Anyone who I decided I wanted to have a very close continuing sexual relationship with - probably not right up front, but certainly before we dropped the safe sex routine.

One of the things I enjoy in my hobbying is discussing the pleasure/business with the women I engage for play. Often they have insights and experiences that are enlightening, and I find that I have a lot in common with many of them, in terms of their open attitude to social mores, and a generally experimental approach to life. I learn plenty from them.

I think the normals have two basic attitudes: live and let live, or do as I do or I call you bad names. Live and let live folks, I can live with them. Moralizing assholes who don't want me to do things that frighten them, they can be frightened. Fuck em.
Thank you!

I doubt your neighbors know what's going on.

I love this quote from this article by Melissa Gira Grant http://jacobinmag.com/2012/08/happy-hookers/

basically says that providers are "able to sweep through the lobby of the Palace Hotel, unnoticed and undisturbed, on her way to an assignation, not because she didn’t “look like” a working girl, but because she knew that too few people understood what a working girl really looked like."

Many people have no idea that there is such a community around this.

I had a client who was talking about escorts negatively, and I asked HAVE YOU MET WITH AN ESCORT? And he said, yes a few times. I asked him what it was like. He said they were all great, lovely, smart, charming, women. I asked him if his own personal experiences are telling him one thing, why is he still spewing stereotypes out as if they are facts.

I'm going off on a tangent.

Sometimes after a really good session with a client I want to TELL SOMEONE! Do you guys ever feel this way? If there is no one to confide in, maybe that is why reviews take on a penthouse fourm-y feel rather than just a "pictures were accurate" type thing.

Also, when articles come out in Toronto Life about sex work, and people discuss them around the water cooler - do you add anything? Or avoid the conversation completely?
 

Rockslinger

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Sometimes after a really good session with a client I want to TELL SOMEONE! Do you guys ever feel this way? If there is no one to confide in,
Do sex trade workers tell anyone (mother, father, friends, neighbours, etc.) outside the trade what they do to earn some money? One of my dancer friends tells nobody. She even has a full time civilian job to cover up this part of her life..
 

staggerspool

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If you remain single into your 30s and 40s many of those around
you would figure it out. They just didn't ask you to confirm their
suspicion out of respect for your privacy.
I don't think the default assumption is that you see escorts - I think it is that you are gay. I don't think the normals really think a lot about escorts as an option, it is just too offensive to their world view. (Which is often pretty screwed up - lots of girls I know are looking for Dr. Money to marry.... and guys assume that if they put their money out, they are owed an awesome blowjob at the very least.) In any even, I don't care. Call me gay. I tend to find gay folks more interesting anyway, except for the sex part. No penis for me, I already have one.
 

staggerspool

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basically says that providers are "able to sweep through the lobby of the Palace Hotel, unnoticed and undisturbed, on her way to an assignation, not because she didn’t “look like” a working girl, but because she knew that too few people understood what a working girl really looked like."

Yeah - just act normal and you look normal. If normal is confident and beautiful, you will get looks, not because you look like a working girl, but because you look like a confident beautiful woman.

I had a session last week with a really lovely woman, she said she felt a little overdressed and felt she looked out of place coming into my building. I told her she looked totally normal for a stunning woman, but that she should dress down a bit if it makes her more comfortable.

Generally, I think people involved in the hobby might be aware of telltale signs, but the normals are really out of the loop. And whatever they might suspect, THEY KNOW NOTHING!
 

gtamassage

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Oct 10, 2010
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I am curious about this. I have met a couple people who pop out during work, and their assistant at work knows where they are off to. Others that absolutely no one knows except them and the provider. Do clients ever discuss this with anyone outside of Terb? Is this part of why Terb is popular - to create a sense of community?

Do you ever wonder if your friends or co-workers are doing the same thing? It's possible they are on Terb. Toronto is a small city.

Do you ever wish you could tell your boss or friend about this, because you know it's something they would really like?

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed. I did a half-assed search, if it's been done to death a mod can just delete this. ;)
Not until couple week ago. My future ex know :)
 

shack

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Oct 2, 2001
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I have nobody that I have to hide this activity from.
 

staggerspool

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"Sometimes after a really good session with a client I want to TELL SOMEONE! Do you guys ever feel this way? If there is no one to confide in, maybe that is why reviews take on a penthouse fourm-y feel rather than just a "pictures were accurate" type thing."

I think there are probably two different drives to talk. Some can get into the bragging thing. Others might want to talk to understand the situation better. Why was this so good (or bad or creepy or strange)? What made that difference? Was it my mood, or the other person's mood, what they did, what I did, the moon, the stars, are you from Mars?

I love to analyse these situations. Often I find myself writing it out for myself. I also repeat with women whom I connect with, so I tend to talk about it with them. I don't repeat primarily for that reason, I do it because I enjoy the session, and that conversation is part of the pleasure. Repeat appointments make extended conversation possible over a period of time, and very often I connect with women who are as curious as I am about the mystery of human sexuality.

I have one rather sad tale to tell in this regard - I had a long time repeat provider decide she didn't want to see me for a while, and though I haven't talked to her about it, I think it is because we were becoming too close for her comfort. It wasn't that she was falling for me, or I for her, it was just too genuinely friendly, and I think she wanted to keep her personal life and her professional one completely separate. I totally understand that - she is in her early 20s and I was among her first clients, so her relationship to the work evolved and she became uncomfortable with the possibility that our friendship might extend outside of the business relationship. In fact we had discussed an extended friendship, and I had assumed that, since we had established that the sex was only going to take place within the business relationship, she was cool. Well, she was for a while, then she wasn't.

I totally get why she made the choice - she has something at stake that I don't. She has the rest of her life to think about, and one bad leak could, in the internet age, mark her for life. I'd really enjoy being her friend, but I respect her need to keep that barrier up. Maybe if she was a little older, or more seasoned in the business, she wouldn't be so concerned... but it would require her to trust me, and for her the risk was just too much. Sad, but ok. I will always think of her very fondly.
 

goalie000

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Sep 7, 2001
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Your place!!
The only person that knows about my activity is my girlfriend and that's because she was an escort I used to see! :)
 
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