Quebec Bill 21

[lomotil]

Canada is a loose federation of provinces that have significant power and a relatively weak central government.
Quebec is basically an economic backwater underwritten by Ottawa the recipient of more than generous transfer payments, accommodations and unique subsidies gifted by a succession of Canadian PMs that successful courted the large amount of seats that Quebec has for electoral purposes.
Quebec was the only province that refused to sign the 1982 Constitution and gets away with using the Notwithstanding Clause to circumvent the Charter violations that Quebec’s laws often cause.
Quebec continues to cut off it’s nose to spite it’s face with billions of foreign and domestic investment dollars going elsewhere, negative population growth and high labour shortages. Immigrants to Quebec are more or less driven out,
Quebec‘s desire for French speaking Caucasian Christian immigrants is a non starter, and other French speaking immigrants who do not fit this criteria are disadvantaged and discriminated against by Quebec’s laws and society.

Ultimately, the ” pure laine “ face annihilation and self destructive by their own hands and deeds. Yet more laws like Bill 21 are likely on the way

 

[bver_hunter]

Quebec will not revoke it. Once they implemented bill 21. You know why they won’t revoke it. Just look at Bill 101 . When Rene Levesque came to power . They implemented it and never revoked Bill 101 if though it implemented basic right on education that you have to enrolled your child in French school unless your parents was born in quebec and was originally educated in English.. Also look at the english sign law in Quebec It now cannot be in English must be in French.
Bottom line once Quebec use the not with standing clause they will never revoke it! They not like Ontario.
Regardless if the law you says more about autocracy and totalitarianism aspect… Quebec will always protect their French culture. If the muslim don’t like it.,.. They can move to english Canada and Québécois don’t care!!

Not the first time Quebec used the notwithstanding clause! And they never revoked any bill they implemented that Supreme Court of Canada that rules against their bills. And this will not be the last bill they will implement in protecting french culture. They look at what happening in France and Europe and they don’t like what happening.


PS. English Canada should have the balls to implement a similar bill like bill21 just like Quebec, but they are too freaking political correct!
PS. Bottom line don’t like the law leave Quebec!! They don’t fucking care!! Protecting French culture is their #1 priority It in their french culture!!

Implementing a language is totally different from a religious belief!! Many nations around the Globe do so and that was supposed to be Quebec's identity with the French language.
Obviously, that maybe the case with schools, but when they have to communicate with the rest of Canada on a business level, they have to do so in English. That in a way puts their students at a disadvantage if they have not learnt English as a second language and have to move out of Quebec for business or personal reasons!!

Now when the not withstanding clause is implemented after a loss in the Federal Court, then expect masses and masses of demonstrations and strikes across the Province.
This will also encourage the extreme right to carry out their usual violence against minorities, such as the mosque shootings etc.
No thank you to such retarded Laws, as it will not be implemented in any other part of Canada!!

 

[bver_hunter]

While I do think Bill 21 as written is a bad law, there is actually more a difference between the perception of how to keep religion out of things in French vs English heritage.
The French domination by the Catholic Church resulted in an idea that the way to keep it out was to completely shut down religious imagery/expression in governmental functions or official positions, while the English heritage of a Protestant revolution and then bunches of sects running around resulted in a "you can express it, but so can everyone else" as a way to not put one on top.

I grew up with the second and so it seems like it makes more sense to me, but I can see the arguments for the other direction. (I just don't think it is practical in any really enforceable way, and I don't think 21 even tries to do it particularly well.)

We as Canadians be it Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Jains, Muslims and Atheists have never been offended to be in the presence of those peaceful and law abiding ones who wear their religious symbols based on their beliefs. I agree that this Bill 21 is a horrible one that is designed to target women in particular of the Muslim Faith. The backlash is that it also affects the Sikhs and the Jews who have the various forms of head coverings that fall within the confines of that Bill!! There are religious Christians though a tiny minority who have a huge cross around their neck and that also will be really offensive to them if they are prohibited from using them in public areas. Next we could even see the Grace before Meals etc being restricted in the near future. I really do not see the point of this Bill when those who should be targeted are the ones committing crimes, being involved with illicit drugs, and real money laundering etc. Not those who are law abiding and peacefully conducting their daily routines!!

 

[Addict2sex]

Implementing a language is totally different from a religious belief!! Many nations around the Globe do so and that was supposed to be Quebec's identity with the French language.
Obviously, that maybe the case with schools, but when they have to communicate with the rest of Canada on a business level, they have to do so in English. That in a way puts their students at a disadvantage if they have not learnt English as a second language and have to move out of Quebec for business or personal reasons!!

Now when the not withstanding clause is implemented after a loss in the Federal Court, then expect masses and masses of demonstrations and strikes across the Province.
This will also encourage the extreme right to carry out their usual violence against minorities, such as the mosque shootings etc.
No thank you to such retarded Laws, as it will not be implemented in any other part of Canada!!

We will not get mass demonstrations and strike across provinces. Few hundreds anglophone and hundreds muslim will demonstrate in Montreal then it will die down but no strike. no mass demonstrations across the province only few demstratiom for a most a couple of week. Then it will die down and be forgotten and it will be accept as normal law Quebec. I can bet you a thousand dollar on this… only the English news network in Quebec & rest of Canada will make. big issues and the French network in Quebec will cover the for a few NEWS cycles then it will die down. The rest of the Muslim population and other religious group will be too concern about the coming recession and inflation to spend their energy worrying about this Bill21 that only affect a few religious minorities.

By the way extreme right and extreme left do carry their hateful against minorities and the majorities too! Don’t like the Bill 21 move!! You are free to move across Canada . In the end just look at Europe and France and UK when you have ghettoization in the city control by the religious zeleots or criminal gang who want to excercise their control over their race that infringed their basic human rights too... And there nothing you can do about!

Look at history example you have Little Italy and then you have the mafia who exercised control on the Italian immigrants for protection money.. same thing in China town with Chinese mafia gang for protection money, Or Similar idea with religious nutcase on sharia law in the gehetto or same idea with religious cult that buy a farm and have 10 wives ( Waco, Texas) . So spin all you want about the extreme right and but the fact is you have the extremE left that is rarely mention in the mainstream media.

 

[bver_hunter]

We will not get mass demonstrations and strike across provinces. Few hundreds anglophone and hundreds muslim will demonstrate in Montreal then it will die down but no strike. no mass demonstrations across the province only few demStratton for a most a couple of week. Then it will die down and be forgotten and it will be accept as normal law Quebec. I can bet you a thousand dollar on this… only the English news network in Quebec & rest of Canada will make. big issues and the French network in Quebec will cover the for a few new cycles then it will die down. The rest of the Muslim population and other religious group will be too concern about the coming recession and inflation to spend their energy worrying about this Bill21 that only affect a few religious minorities.

By the way extreme right and extreme left do carry their hateful against minorities and the majorities too! Don’t like the Bill 21 move!! You are free to move across Canada . In the end just look at Europe and France and UK when you have ghettoization in the city control by the religious zeleots or criminal gang who want to excercise their control over their race that infringed their basic human rights too... And there nothing you can do about!

Look at history example you have Little Italy and then you have the mafia who exercised control on the Italian immigrants for protection money.. same thing in China town with Chinese mafia gang for protection money, Or Similar idea with religious nutcase on sharia law in the gehetto or same idea with religious cult that buy a farm and have 10 wives ( Waco, Texas) . So spin all you want about the extreme right and but the fact is you have the extremE left that is rarely mention in the mainstream media.

This will not go away any time soon if the Fascist Style Bill 21is imposed on the population. When the Provincial Government picks on law abiding citizens for ridiculous laws such as head coverings when it is not offensive in any way, then basic human rights are infringed. Sikhs who also traditionally wear their turbans and have been great warriors in the past during the World War II in the Liberation of nations like France, Ethiopia etc. will now consider it to be a kick in their groins. Yet these face covering restrictions in France are just implemented to appeal to the Extreme Right. After all France has a large section of extreme right wing supporters:

Some far-right supporters in France increasingly refer to the false “great replacement” conspiracy theory that the populations of Western countries are being overrun by non-white, non-Christian immigrants. The claim, propagated by white supremacists, has inspired deadly attacks.

French far-right party elects new leader to replace Le Pen

An ambitious 27-year-old has been elected to replace Marine Le Pen as president of France's main far-right party National Rally

abcnews.go.com

By the way ANTIFA is an Anti-Fascist Movement to counter these extreme right wing violent racists. They are not notorious like the far right for picking on minorities. Do not know which "Extreme left" you consider to be picking on these minorities and "majorities"??

 

[james t kirk]

Nah we just separate from English Canada and form our own country!

I really wish Quebec would separate.

In fact, if you were to take a plebiscite of "the rest of Canada" I guaran-fucking-tee the rest of Canada would vote to kick Quebec out of confederation. Quebec will dry up and wither away without the rest of Canada to pay its bills. And then Quebec can do whatever the fuck it wants and become a truly second world country . Truly a win win situation for everyone.

Buh bye.

 

[Darts]

If Quebec separates, we could see a flood of economic refugees.

Back in the 1800's almost a million Quebecois flooded the mills of New England.

How the French-Canadian Textile Worker Came to New England - New England Historical Society

 

[Addict2sex]

I really wish Quebec would separate.

In fact, if you were to take a plebiscite of "the rest of Canada" I guaran-fucking-tee the rest of Canada would vote to kick Quebec out of confederation. Quebec will dry up and wither away without the rest of Canada to pay its bills. And then Quebec can do whatever the fuck it wants and become a truly second world country . Truly a win win situation for everyone.

Buh bye.

I agreed with you on Rest of Canada really hate Quebec on most other things like constant whining about need more money from federal governments and the constant fighting . But I pretty sure I sure they { rest of Canada the majority of population } will agree on Quebec Bill 22 on protecting French Culture or in Canadian Culture then letting other reliigious law such as sharia law overriding invidual freedom like sharia law forcing woman wearing hijabs or burka like in Iran or ghetto place like in Europe or England or France or in Quebec. It a hidden double standard of Muslim trying to sneak or imposed their hidden agenda of indirectly forces practicing in sharia law into their Muslim population in Quebec or Canada. Sometimes it better to separate..just like children outgrown their parents and leave home and separate and live by themselves. It a win win situation for everyone in the end. Less fight about money. You will be surprised how resourceful Quebec is. Chidren A second country north of USA can become a sucessful when they spend less energy fight each other. You think Quebec will dry up and wither away, I think you are incredible navie …to think Quebec cannot succeed.
When Quebec separated can you keep Trudeau.. really hated Trudeau racists double standards libtard two time blackface!

 

[bazokajoe]

I really wish Quebec would separate.

In fact, if you were to take a plebiscite of "the rest of Canada" I guaran-fucking-tee the rest of Canada would vote to kick Quebec out of confederation. Quebec will dry up and wither away without the rest of Canada to pay its bills. And then Quebec can do whatever the fuck it wants and become a truly second world country . Truly a win win situation for everyone.

Buh bye.

There wouldn't be much left of Quebec if they separated because the Native Canadians(on reserves) would then separate from Quebec to stay in Canada.
The St. Lawrence Seaway belongs to the Federal Government, so we keep that and also all military bases, federal crown land.

 

[Darts]

Apparently, we can't import children medicine from the U.S. because the labels are only in English.

"One of the impediments identified in getting the medications into stores and pharmacies is a Health Canada requirement for them to be labelled in both English and French."
Children’s Tylenol shortage has doctors urging feds to get creative | The Star

 

[james t kirk]

There wouldn't be much left of Quebec if they separated because the Native Canadians(on reserves) would then separate from Quebec to stay in Canada.
The St. Lawrence Seaway belongs to the Federal Government, so we keep that and also all military bases, federal crown land.

Hell, the Montreal area and up along the Ottawa River would vote to remain in Canada, that would be a for sure.

If Canada is divisible, then by extension, so is Quebec.

Without Montreal and the Outaouais region, Quebec is pretty much nothing.

 

[lomotil]

Quebec succession from Canada is a non starter anyone. Quebec is an economic backwater underwritten by Ottawa.
Quebec cannot support itself .
Little by little, Quebec is establishing their own pseudo nation in Canada anyway, so why separate!
Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free is what Quebec is doing.