Quebec Bill 21

[Darts]

This will end up in the SCOC. Trudeau will not touch the issue because Quebec is his power base.
Quebec’s top court to begin hearing appeals on secularism law known as Bill 21 | Globalnews.ca

 

[Valcazar]

I agree Trudeau is going to try and stay away from it.

 

[poker]

Trudeau should stay away from it… it’s a court issue. He has no jurisdiction.

He has already made his feelings clear…. The bill is wrong.

I hope the SCOC Canada gets this right.

 

[Addict2sex]

Trudeau should stay away from it… it’s a court issue. He has no jurisdiction.

He has already made his feelings clear…. The bill is wrong.

I hope the SCOC Canada gets this right.

Quebec will use the notwithstanding clauses! That will make SCOC Canada ruling useless! Hurray for Quebec for standing up protecting French culture!! The Quebec government passed Bill 21 in 2019 and has repeatedly argued the law is moderate and supported by a majority of Quebecers. Good for Quebec! Time to stand up protecting French culture

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Quebec will use the notwithstanding clauses! That will make SCOC Canada ruling useless! Hurray for Quebec for standing up protecting French culture!!

Has enough time elapsed after you ate crow ?

 

[Addict2sex]

Has enough time elapsed after you ate crow ?

Don’t need to eat crow… you will eat crow, regardless of what SCOC ruling is. Quebec government will automatically use the notwithstanding clause. Majority of Québécois will support it because it protect the most important things Québécois care about. That is the French culture! Checkmate! Why hell you think Quebec almost separate from Canada.. The Quebecois want the right to protect the French culture! You way of thinking is the English Canada way of thinking..you not looking from a French /Québécois way of thinking… protecting the French culture!

 

[Addict2sex]

Trudeau should stay away from it… it’s a court issue. He has no jurisdiction.

He has already made his feelings clear…. The bill is wrong.

I hope the SCOC Canada gets this right.

Bill 21 is correct for Quebec and good for Québécois.. Trudeau should put his mouth in it.. Québécois will crucified Trudeau… I hope Trudeau butt into it!! That way Québécois will be so angry at him they will crucified him and vote for the conservative And the Bloc Québécois. And then bye bye Trudeau the libtard blackface!

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Bill 21 is correct for Quebec and good for Québécois.. Trudeau should put his mouth in it.. Québécois will crucified Trudeau… I hope Trudeau butt into it!! That way Québécois will be so angry at him they will crucified him and vote for the conservative And the Bloc Québécois. And then bye bye Trudeau the libtard blackface!

You ate shit on your trumpism maybe you can win something lol

 

[Addict2sex]

You ate shit on your trumpism maybe you can win something lol

Couldn’t debate so… insult is your way of debating! Guess you couldn’t handle the truth about Quebecois. The Quebecois don’t think like English Canada . Would it made you happy if I stoop to your level by insult you?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Couldn’t debate so… insult is your way of debating! Guess you couldn’t handle the truth about Quebecois. The Quebecois don’t think like English Canada .

Fuck le quebecois leave your women and go back to France you cowards

 

[Addict2sex]

Fuck le quebecois leave your women and go back to France you cowards

Nah we just separate from English Canada and form our own country!

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Nah we just separate from English Canada and form our own country!

Here's a shovel asshole

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Nah we just separate from English Canada and form our own country!

Your obviously too young or too stupid to remember the referenDUM when you Karen frenchies shit you pants when you almost won the spereration you were completely unprepared for and had no idea what to do. Probably like your first time having sex with your aunt

 

[bver_hunter]

Nah we just separate from English Canada and form our own country!

It is not going to happen. Wishful thinking. The reason is that the majority of those residing in Quebec believe this:

Bill 21, Bérard said, was adopted by Quebec’s legislature in order to “appease racists who do not want to see religious symbols.”

This Bill will eventually fail for the following reason:

Earlier on Monday, parties to the court challenge, including the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, told reporters that they would head to the Supreme Court of Canada should their appeal fail. The federal government has said it is prepared to join the legal challenge if it eventually ends up in the country’s highest court.

The Federal Government have made it clear where they stand with regards to this blatant violation of basic rights!!

 

[Addict2sex]

Your obviously too young or too stupid to remember the referenDUM when you Karen frenchies shit you pants when you almost won the spereration you were completely unprepared for and had no idea what to do. Probably like your first time having sex with your aunt

I voted on both time in Quebec and I voted No merci..believe the bullshit from Pierre Elliott Trudeau On the bullshit of multiculturalism!! I was young and stupid believe in the liberalism …which now I older realized…it libtard!! Guess libtard dont know how to debate or win their arguments…they only know how to insult.. Must really struck a nerve when you realized I am correct that bill 21 can be override the Supreme Court of Canada by using the notwithstanding clause to override the Canadian charter of rights …lol. By the way it was Pierre Elliott Trudeau put into the Canadian Constitution . You too dumb to realize that …it like your probably first time you have sex with your aunt! ( Tit for Tat ).

 

[Addict2sex]

It is not going to happen. Wishful thinking. The reason is that the majority of those residing in Quebec believe this:



This Bill will eventually fail for the following reason:



The Federal Government have made it clear where they stand with regards to this blatant violation of basic rights!!

You do not understand Quebec history and quebec quiet revolution. The bill will not fail… The bill will only fail in English Canada and Supreme Court of Canada . ( Who cares if it get struck down SSC that the bill is illegal…all Quebec government have to do is use the notwithstanding clause and it will override the supreme court of Canada). ! Understand Quebec history on Quebec hard stand on religion .. Québécois tend more lie between religious neutral and anti religious or atheist !

What part do you not understanding the not with standing clause ? It give the province the right to override whatever the Supreme Court ruling on basic right regardless of what the SSC rules .

English Canada/ liberalism will get their hollow victory but in the end the Quebec government will win by using the notwithstanding clause.

PS. Bill 21 is a good law!

 

[bver_hunter]

You do not understand Quebec history and quebec quiet revolution. The bill will not fail… The bill will only fail in English Canada and Supreme Court of Canada . ( Who cares if it get struck down SSC that the bill is illegal…all Quebec government have to do is use the notwithstanding clause and it will override the supreme court of Canada). ! Understand Quebec history on Quebec hard stand on religion .. Québécois tend more lie between religious neutral and anti religious or atheist !

What part do you not understanding the not with standing clause ? It give the province the right to override whatever the Supreme Court ruling on basic right regardless of what the SSC rules .

English Canada/ liberalism will get their hollow victory but in the end the Quebec government will win by using the notwithstanding clause.

PS. Bill 21 is a good law!

We all know that the Supreme Court can overturn the Bill 21. Yes, the Quebec Government can then implement the Notwithstanding Clause just like the Ford Government did with the Teachers Union only to then revoke it with all the strikes and school closures. This will follow the same path and on a much larger scale. Bill 21 is a screwed up law. Many Catholics themselves in Quebec wear visible necklaces with crosses around their necks. They have done it for generations without any objections from their employers. That could also be banned, along with Yarmulkes, Kippahs, Turbans and Hijabs. A real pathetic law as many police officers and army personnel are Sikhs. If this is not considered a basic right to wear their own religious symbols then this is nothing to do with religious"neutrality" and more in line with a Sharia Law that dictates what an individual can or cannot wear. Quebec is a Province of Canada, and should adhere to Canadian Principles such as rights and freedoms for all, and not some values from across the Ponds. If one wants such values they should feel free to move across the Ponds to live in those nations!!

Once again this so called Law is more like that of an autocracy with a totalitarianism aspect!!

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I voted on both time in Quebec and I voted No merci..believe the bullshit from Pierre Elliott Trudeau On the bullshit of multiculturalism!! I was young and stupid believe in the liberalism …which now I older realized…it libtard!! Guess libtard dont know how to debate or win their arguments…they only know how to insult.. Must really struck a nerve when you realized I am correct that bill 21 can be override the Supreme Court of Canada by using the notwithstanding clause to override the Canadian charter of rights …lol. By the way it was Pierre Elliott Trudeau put into the Canadian Constitution . You too dumb to realize that …it like your probably first time you have sex with your aunt! ( Tit for Tat ).

I voted on both time in Quebec and I voted No merci..believe the bullshit from Pierre Elliott Trudeau On the bullshit of multiculturalism!! I was young and stupid believe in the liberalism …which now I older realized…it libtard!! Guess libtard dont know how to debate or win their arguments…they only know how to insult.. Must really struck a nerve when you realized I am correct that bill 21 can be override the Supreme Court of Canada by using the notwithstanding clause to override the Canadian charter of rights …lol. By the way it was Pierre Elliott Trudeau put into the Canadian Constitution . You too dumb to realize that …it like your probably first time you have sex with your aunt! ( Tit for Tat ).

So you are saying you were a libtard and did not know how to win arguments or debates. But now you don't identify as a libtard, so should that preclude that you believe now you win arguments and debates ?

 

[Addict2sex]

We all know that the Supreme Court can overturn the Bill 21. Yes, the Quebec Government can then implement the Notwithstanding Clause just like the Ford Government did with the Teachers Union only to then revoke it with all the strikes and school closures. This will follow the same path and on a much larger scale. Bill 21 is a screwed up law. Many Catholics themselves in Quebec wear visible necklaces with crosses around their necks. They have done it for generations without any objections from their employers. That could also be banned, along with Yarmulkes, Kippahs, Turbans and Hijabs. A real pathetic law as many police officers and army personnel are Sikhs. If this is not considered a basic right to wear their own religious symbols then this is nothing to do with religious"neutrality" and more in line with a Sharia Law that dictates what an individual can or cannot wear. Quebec is a Province of Canada, and should adhere to Canadian Principles such as rights and freedoms for all, and not some values from across the Ponds. If one wants such values they should feel free to move across the Ponds to live in those nations!!

Once again this so called Law is more like that of an autocracy with a totalitarianism aspect!!

Quebec will not revoke it. Once they implemented bill 21. You know why they won’t revoke it. Just look at Bill 101 . When Rene Levesque came to power . They implemented it and never revoked Bill 101 if though it implemented basic right on education that you have to enrolled your child in French school unless your parents was born in quebec and was originally educated in English.. Also look at the english sign law in Quebec It now cannot be in English must be in French.
Bottom line once Quebec use the not with standing clause they will never revoke it! They not like Ontario.
Regardless if the law you says more about autocracy and totalitarianism aspect… Quebec will always protect their French culture. If the muslim don’t like it.,.. They can move to english Canada and Québécois don’t care!!

Not the first time Quebec used the notwithstanding clause! And they never revoked any bill they implemented that Supreme Court of Canada that rules against their bills. And this will not be the last bill they will implement in protecting french culture. They look at what happening in France and Europe and they don’t like what happening.


PS. English Canada should have the balls to implement a similar bill like bill21 just like Quebec, but they are too freaking political correct!
PS. Bottom line don’t like the law leave Quebec!! They don’t fucking care!! Protecting French culture is their #1 priority It in their french culture!!

 

[Valcazar]

Bill 21 is a screwed up law. Many Catholics themselves in Quebec wear visible necklaces with crosses around their necks. They have done it for generations without any objections from their employers. That could also be banned, along with Yarmulkes, Kippahs, Turbans and Hijabs. A real pathetic law as many police officers and army personnel are Sikhs. If this is not considered a basic right to wear their own religious symbols then this is nothing to do with religious"neutrality" and more in line with a Sharia Law that dictates what an individual can or cannot wear.

While I do think Bill 21 as written is a bad law, there is actually more a difference between the perception of how to keep religion out of things in French vs English heritage.
The French domination by the Catholic Church resulted in an idea that the way to keep it out was to completely shut down religious imagery/expression in governmental functions or official positions, while the English heritage of a Protestant revolution and then bunches of sects running around resulted in a "you can express it, but so can everyone else" as a way to not put one on top.

I grew up with the second and so it seems like it makes more sense to me, but I can see the arguments for the other direction. (I just don't think it is practical in any really enforceable way, and I don't think 21 even tries to do it particularly well.)