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The Swedes want to interview him for Sexual Assault. The U.S. hasn't charged him with anything.Nobody home? What are his charges do you know?
But he spent months in the U.K. which has a very strong extradition treaty with the U.S. and absolutely nothing happened.Allegations of sexual assault. Many have looked at the charges and questioned them. The big deal is Sweden has an extradition treaty with the USA. So whether or not he actually faces charges if he appears on Swedish soil they can pick him up and turn him over.
It's how he ended up in the embassy in London. Ecuador doesn't have a treaty.
This is all about Assange not wanting to face the music on the Swedish sexual assault charges. Which by the way no matter how much Julian Assange says so have not been proved false.
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**Sophie**
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_AuthorityBut he spent months in the U.K. which has a very strong extradition treaty with the U.S. and absolutely nothing happened.
This is all about Assange not wanting to face the music on the Swedish sexual assault charges. Which by the way no matter how much Julian Assange says so have not been proved false.
He is being framed simply because he is the founder of WikiLeaks - Plain and Simple. The release of the Benghazi documents pissed off a few high powered people.Julian Assange v Swedish Prosecution Authority is the set of legal proceedings in the United Kingdom concerning the requested extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden to further a 'preliminary investigation'[SUP][1][/SUP] into accusations of his having committed sexual offences. The proceedings began in 2012 and on 12 August 2015, Swedish prosecutors announced that they would drop their investigation into three of the allegations against Assange, because the statute of limitations had expired. The investigation into the allegation of rape continues.[SUP][2][/SUP]
Swedish Criminal Procedure is peculiar. In our system a Statute of Limitations does not run when the accused is deliberately making themselves unavailable (such as holing up in an embassy so they can't be extradited).on 12 August 2015, Swedish prosecutors announced that they would drop their investigation into three of the allegations against Assange, because the statute of limitations had expired.
Swedish women who were supporters of Wikileaks came forth with these accusations because they were mad about the release of Benghazi e-mails? Really?He is being framed simply because he is the founder of WikiLeaks - Plain and Simple. The release of the Benghazi documents pissed off a few high powered people.
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If the issue is with Sweden why will they extradite him to the US? What does the US have to do with anything? Oh yes that's right, he released all sorts of documents they didn't want coming out and that is what this witchhunt is about.Swedish Criminal Procedure is peculiar. In our system a Statute of Limitations does not run when the accused is deliberately making themselves unavailable (such as holing up in an embassy so they can't be extradited).
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Really you find that odd? Should I remind you of the false accusations of sexual assault on Trump? Women do those things sometimes.Swedish Criminal Procedure is peculiar. In our system a Statute of Limitations does not run when the accused is deliberately making themselves unavailable (such as holing up in an embassy so they can't be extradited).
Swedish women who were supporters of Wikileaks came forth with these accusations because they were mad about the release of Benghazi e-mails? Really?
The U.S. hasn't asked for him to be extradited.If the issue is with Sweden why will they extradite him to the US?
If there was/is a secret plan why didn't they execute it during all the months he was living in the U.K. - a heck of a lot easier to extradite him from the U.K. than from Sweden.
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**Sophie**
Why was he granted asylum? Why is the US pursuing him?The U.S. hasn't asked for him to be extradited.
If there was/is a secret plan why didn't they execute it during all the months he was living in the U.K. - a heck of a lot easier to extradite him from the U.K. than from Sweden.
In 2010 Julian Assange oversaw the analysis and publication of over half a million documents from the Pentagon and US State Department; the largest such publication in history. He coordinated the analysis of the documents by 110 different media and human rights groups. The documents revealed thousands of issues embarrassing to the United States government, including the precise details about the deaths of more than 100,000 individual people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In reprisal, the US government initiated a criminal investigation, targeting Assange and his staff at WikiLeaks with espionage charges. That investigation is being carried out by a federal grand jury - a prosecutorial mechanism that virtually assures that he will be indicted. The investigation is ongoing.
There is also a concurrent investigation into the WikiLeaks 2012 publication of "The Global Intelligence Files" : five million documents from the US intelligence contractor, Stratfor..
Could be why he is worried. Click the criminal investigation link on my response it will explain what a Federal Grand Jury investigation entails.
Why was he granted asylum? Why is the US pursuing him?
Second question first, at this time there is no evidence that the U.S. is pursuing him.
As to why did Ecuador grant him asylum, because at the time it served the interests of Rafael Correa y Delgado in the same way the changed political environment in South America over the past four and half years is why Ecuador cut off his internet access at the Embassy in London.
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Assange had his internet cut off Sept 2016 at the request of the US government because they said he was interfering with the US elections, but Wikileaks does not publish from Ecuador so that was useless because the leaks still continued. So what was the point?Second question first, at this time there is no evidence that the U.S. is pursuing him.
As to why did Ecuador grant him asylum, because at the time it served the interests of Rafael Correa y Delgado in the same way the changed political environment in South America over the past four and half years is why Ecuador cut off his internet access at the Embassy in London.
A grand jury is a part of US criminal procedure that is still ongoing into the investigation of Assange. It is mandated for serious crimes in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,... (Aaron Swartz was indicted by grand jury. Daniel Ellsberg was indicted by grand jury. Thomas Drake was indicted by grand jury. John Kiriakou was indicted by grand jury. Etc)
*A sealed indictment is an indictment that has been issued under seal, which means under court secrecy, to avoid tipping off the indicted person.*
If Hillary had won the election, that would be a guarantee that she would want to roast his ass, Sweden has a 100 percent extradition rate, and Sweden will not give him a guarantee that they won't extradite, so he would be taking a risk.
What's in it for the UN to deem his detention a violation against his basic human rights and should be compensated for it?
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=53170#.WCjOeSYzVjo
5 February 2016 – The founder of the WikiLeaks website, which published confidential diplomatic information, has been arbitrarily detained by Sweden and the United Kingdom since his arrest in London in December 2010, as a result of the legal action against him by both Governments, the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention said today.
In a public statement, the expert panel called on the Swedish and British authorities to end Julian Assange’s deprivation of liberty, respect his physical integrity and freedom of movement, and afford him the right to compensation.
Mr. Assange, detained first in prison then under house arrest, took refuge in Ecuador’s London embassy in 2012 after losing his appeal to the UK’s Supreme Court against extradition to Sweden, where a judicial investigation was initiated against him in connection with allegations of sexual misconduct. However, he was not formally charged.
“The Working Group on Arbitrary Detention considers that the various forms of deprivation of liberty to which Julian Assange has been subjected constitute a form of arbitrary detention,” said Seong-Phil Hong, who currently heads the expert panel.
“The Working Group maintains that the arbitrary detention of Mr. Assange should be brought to an end, that his physical integrity and freedom of movement be respected, and that he should be entitled to an enforceable right to compensation,” Mr. Hong added.
In its official Opinion, the Working Group considered that Mr. Assange had been subjected to different forms of deprivation of liberty: initial detention in Wandsworth Prison in London, followed by house arrest and then confinement at the Ecuadorean Embassy.
According to a press release issued by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the experts also found that the detention was arbitrary because Mr. Assange was held in isolation at Wandsworth Prison, and because a lack of diligence by the Swedish Prosecutor’s Office in its investigations resulted in his lengthy loss of liberty. The Working Group further established that this detention violates two articles of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and six articles of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Yes, Assange worked with Russia because he was pissed at Clinton, as she said she'd put him behind bars.He believes if the US wants him, and if Hillary had won the election, that would be a guarantee that she would want to roast his ass, Sweden has a 100 percent extradition rate, and Sweden will not give him a guarantee that they won't, so he would be taking a risk.
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LOL keep dreaming - He has published 800,000 Russian documents as well. Many books have been written on those Russian leaks. Guess he was helping Clinton out because she hates Putin.Yes, Assange worked with Russia because he was pissed at Clinton, as she said she'd put him behind bars.
Here you go.LOL keep dreaming - He has published 800,000 Russian documents as well. Many books have been written on those Russian leaks. Guess he was helping Clinton out because she hates Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/trump-adviser-clinton-emails-wikileaks-roger-stoneA key confidante of Donald Trump has provided new details about the “mutual friend” of Julian Assange who served as a back channel to give him broad tips in advance about WikiLeaks’ releases of emails to and from key allies of Hillary Clinton.
Roger Stone, a longtime unofficial adviser to the Republican presidential nominee, was briefed in general terms in advance about the sensitive and embarrassing leaked Democratic emails by an American libertarian who works in the media on the “opinion side”, he told the Guardian in an interview.
Stone claims his American source, whom he declined to identify, has met with Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, in London and is a “mutual friend” of Stone and Assange. The WikiLeaks source, Stone said, is not tied in any way to the Trump campaign but has served as a back channel for Stone, who is an outside adviser to the Republican presidential candidate, allowing the adviser to tweet and comment very broadly prior to some key WikiLeaks disclosures.
That would confirm that Trump was working with Assange on Russian hacks of state secrets as an attempt to sink Clinton.
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Franky, you see I actually read the links you all provide me, because I like learning, but than you forgot the most important part in your article.Here you go.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/trump-adviser-clinton-emails-wikileaks-roger-stone
That would confirm that Trump was working with Assange on Russian hacks of state secrets as an attempt to sink Clinton.
"Stone adamantly denied meeting with Assange (“Your source is bullshitting u” he wrote in an email) or having any direct contact with Assange or anyone with WikiLeaks."
Stone says he met someone who had direct links to Assange, not Assange personally. Its all there in the article.Franky, you see I really read the links you all provide me, and you forgot the most important part in your article.
"Stone adamantly denied meeting with Assange (“Your source is bullshitting u” he wrote in an email) or having any direct contact with Assange or anyone with WikiLeaks."
Stone also tweeted that Podesta's emails were going to be released before wikileaks made any announcements publicly.
The tweet is there in the article.
As the article notes:
In response to Podesta’s comments, Stone told the conservative Daily Caller: “I’ve admitted I’ve been in communication with Assange through an intermediary,” adding: “They don’t tell me what they’re going to release.”
Likewise in August, Stone told a Florida audience: “I actually have communicated with Assange. I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there’s no telling what the October surprise may be.”
Guccifer 2 (Russians and Putin) - Assange - mediator - Stone - Trump
That's the official path Clinton's emails went on.
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**Sophie**
That's quite a leap considering he denies it and there is no link to show proof he said what the article claims. He may have had some inside knowledge, its difficult to say. I understand you think Russia is behind it, I am not convinced, at all.Stone says he met someone who had direct links to Assange, not Assange personally. Its all there in the article.
Stone also tweeted that Podesta's emails were going to be released before wikileaks made any announcements publicly.
The tweet is there in the article.
As the article notes:
Guccifer 2 (Russians and Putin) - Assange - mediator - Stone - Trump
That's the official path Clinton's emails went on.
Who denies it?That's quite a leap considering he denies it and there is no link to show proof he said what the article claims. He may have had some inside knowledge, its difficult to say. I understand you think Russia is behind it, I am not convinced, at all.
Stone tweeted that he had inside information before the leaks came out.
That's not denying it.
Assange is denying that he worked with the Russians, but he would never admit it regardless.
Its no leap, its the official view of US intel.
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WikiLeaks has been publishing for 10 years leaking documents on many governments. Russia is not exempt from those leaks. The Russians didn't hack the DNC, someone inside the DNC leaked the information. Like missing Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Bravman for example. But let's just say for the sake of argument it was the Russians, maybe if Hillary didn't have an unsecure server, that wouldn't have happened.Who denies it?
Stone tweeted that he had inside information before the leaks came out.
That's not denying it.
Assange is denying that he worked with the Russians, but he would never admit it regardless.
Its no leap, its the official view of US intel.
The Russians hacked the DNC.The Russians didn't hack the DNC, someone inside the DNC leaked the information. Like missing Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Bravman for example. But let's just say for the sake of argument it was the Russians, maybe if Hillary didn't have an unsecure server, that wouldn't have happened.
Here is the joint statement by the 17 US intel agencies that confirms that Russians hacked Clinton's email.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07...omeland-security-and-office-director-nationalThe U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.
The state department was also hacked, so chances are she could have been hacked had she used the state department email as well.
Pussy Riot, who went and visited Assange, are sure that Assange works with Russia.
You should also read her take on Trump, having lived through Putin's rule.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...is-connected-with-the-russian-government.html
