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EnergizerBunny

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Freedom means the freedom of responsible gun ownership. Democracy means that if the majority does not want the average citizen to own a gun or easily own a gun or for there to be tight registration and ownership rules for guns, then so it must be.

So who cares why anyone would want a gun, or if gun owner ship is right or wrong. All that is irrelevant.
 

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Re: Re: purchasing handgun

yychobbyist said:
It felt comfortable in my hand, had a solid feel to it, was easy for me to aim and to load and unload.
Homoeroticism, thy name is yychobbyist.
 

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Pete Graves said:
The US doesn't have the highest rate of gun ownership. Try Switzerland,
Source of this info ?
 

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yychobbyist said:
It felt comfortable in my hand, had a solid feel to it, was easy for me to aim and to load and unload.
I think someone's trying to compensate :þ

Everyone should have the right to bare arms. Just ask Charlton Heston.

BigWaders said:
While looking into Bowling for Columbine do a little google search for it. There is substantial evidence and analysis available to discredit much of this "documentary" film.
http://michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko
 

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BigWaders said:
There is one thing that I can guarantee you. A gun is no more dangerous than a coin collection. As long as someone with no ill will loads a gun, points a gun at someone and pulls a trigger the gun is completely incapable of inflicting harm. I'd say an unloaded gun is less dangerous than a coin. I could choke on a coin. I've known a few kids who have had coins thrown at them and lodged in their eyes. The difference here is the gun requires an evil act by a person. A coin collection can kill just by being...
This sounds like Charlton Heston logic. His excuse is that he has Alzheimer’s. What's yours?
 

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EnergizerBunny said:
Every Swiss citizen is a member of the army (Swiss Militia) and has a military issue rifle at home. Or so the story goes.
Thanks EB .

So not handguns then .
 

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sorry to sound a little naive but where is the fun in shooting various rounds into a stationary target? I know a guy who also had an extensive gun collection (various hand guns ranging from a 9mm to a 45 cal and shotguns) and he went to the gun range for years. Eventualy he started going less and less then pretty soon, the guns are just sitting in the gun cabinet collecting dust. Then one day he came with my friends to play paintball and completely fell in love with it. He has since sold most of his guns except 1 or 2 and has become a full fledged paintballer. His reason was that shooting targets is fun for the first few times but it got boring. When he played paintball, he got the biggest adrenaline rush because they are shooting back at you. :)

JMO,

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Sheik said:
As for Michael Moore, the guy has a distorted sense of reality and most of his antics are nothing more than pure publicity stunts. Bowling for Columbine was one classic example of one end of the extreme's thinking.
How did he distort reality? It was a commentary on gun ownership/regulations/culture in the States and how it has contributed to the tragic shooting deaths in high school/ elementary schools. What was your point of disagreement?
 

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Good point incognito, and that brings up an interesting point:

If you like to SHOOT guns, or firearms of every type, we don't need everyone who likes this sport to own one. Systems or locations can be set up where the firearm would be stored there, ready for you to use should you get the urge.

Face it folks, more guns is NOT the answer. As someone pointed out, stiffer sentences for those committing a crime or caught in the possesion of a gun is the answer. Pretty soon (by attrition) there would be no more illegal firearms on the street.

Fact: The US has the highest "death by firearms rate" than any other country, by (if I remember correctly) a margin of 200000 percent. (based on a per capita scale).

2,000,000 guns in Canada? In Moore's film it was stated (I think) we have 17,000,000 guns in Canada. (more per capita than the US). and yet have less accidents or deaths by guns.

True, safe gun owership is a big issue but obviously we don't NEED guns, and if legaslature to keep us safe from ourselves is needed, and that means making ownership of firearms illegal, then so be it.

Yes, Moore's film is skewed, but so is the US's attitude towards gun ownership. Old Mr Heston said it perfectly: Its my RIGHT to own a firearm so I do...well you know what? We have a lot of rights but we DON'T have to exercise them! Just because we have the right doesn't mean we should! (circular logic).

Though Moore's movie showed the point he wanted to make, he did have a lot of info in there that should be examined and not dismissed: WTF does one need an assault weapon for other than shooting another human?

Chris Rock: Make guns cheaper but make each bullet cost $5000.00. Then if you're going to shoot somebody, you REALLY have to want that thing dead (or punctured as in a paper target).

And B4 anyone goes off half cocked at me, I've owned rifles and shotguns, been hunting, killed a few defenseless critters, and know the feeling of being able to hit a target at 100 yds. Yeah, I out grew it, the feeling of power, the thought that anything that gets in front of the iron sight is toast. BFD (big f&ckin deal).
 

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EnergizerBunny said:
Every Swiss citizen is a member of the army (Swiss Militia) and has a military issue rifle at home. Or so the story goes.
Unfair comparison with Switzerland; most of the people there are so...Swiss!
 

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I happen to own 5 guns. I tought my children how to handle and respect these guns at an early age.
If some son of a bitch chooses to break into my house, with a knife, he will be overruled with my gun.
If some son of a bitch breaks into your house with an illegal gun, and threatens your family, take out the Canadian handbook, and tell them that they are doing wrong. HORSESHIT!!!!!!
BLOW THE FUCKERS AWAY, FOR COMING TO MY HOME!!!
Every free society should have the right to defend themselves- PERIOD.
 

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LDB: your statement about hating us anti gun people just prooves our point even further. We don't hate firearms enthusiasts, we just disagree.

If I'm not mistaken 4Leaf, if you blow him away you more than likely will go to jail for murder. If I remember correctly, we are only authorized to use REASONABLE force in protecting our lives or property.

BTW I'm not anti gun, I just don't see the point in everyone owning a firearm when there are so many alternatives.......
 

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hornydawg said:
I just got cleared for my permit
any gun fanatics out there?

I definately want a 9mm, anybody have experiences with Glock 9mm?
Glock makes a decent pistol. Easy to hold, no recoil to speak of and can be fired easily with one hand.

I am partial to the smaller weapons as they are accurate and easy to fire. While the larger pistols have an attraction based on power. They are not ment for ease of firing.

Hope this helps.

PS

Several of the dealers, here, have ranges you can try the piece out at. Frie a hundred rounds and see if you like it.
 

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Tboy, Get your laws straight. If a shit head breaks into your house, threatens you, your wife, and your kids, and you blow the bastard away with your legal gun, you are a bad guy? No, you just eliminated another asshole that may have spent time in prision, payed by us lawbiding assholes.
 

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DATYdude said:
You're definitely right that Moore is fully willing to distort to make his point. I didn't claim otherwise. But he has a point that the nation with the highest rate of gun ownership has by far the highest rate of gun deaths.
I though in Bowling for Columbine he stated that Canada has more per capita number people with fire arms than America? That his whole point is that it isn't the firearms but the fear instilled from the media? (Then he changes this viewpoint to something else - my biggest complaint of that movie he kept changing his point).
 

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What the hell does Michael Moore have to do with the prefrence of a GLOCK over say a .44 Magnum????

You have the love him to think he has anything to do with the original question.
 
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