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[kherg007]

Economy was indeed booming before the pandemic.
What does that have to do with NATO?

His economy was virtually the same as Obama 's. Look at the trend lines. There is no Trump bump.
He was lying, he did not accomplish more in 2 years etc etc. He was trying to pull his bs oversell routine on an educated audience and he was treated as the clown he was. Biden has better economic numbers than Trump ever did.

 

[Frankfooter]

What was your point?
You never made one...you just posted a pic.

Are you inventing a point now that you've tripped over your own hypocrisy again?

I'm sure you don't understand the body language in the photos, skoob.
This is probably you every time you've made a deal too.

 

[Skoob]

His economy was virtually the same as Obama 's. Look at the trend lines. There is no Trump bump.
He was lying, he did not accomplish more in 2 years etc etc. He was trying to pull his bs oversell routine on an educated audience and he was treated as the clown he was. Biden has better economic numbers than Trump ever did.

What "trend lines"? There are various factors and measurements when it comes to the economy.

 

[Skoob]

I'm sure you don't understand the body language in the photos, skoob.
This is probably you every time you've made a deal too.

Body language? In a photo which is probably part of a sequence of 100 photos taken in a few seconds?
That's your point?

OMFG you're desperate. Lol!

 

[Frankfooter]

Body language? In a photo which is probably part of a sequence of 100 photos taken in a few seconds?
That's your point?

OMFG you're desperate. Lol!

Why would you back someone who is so obviously weak compared to his hero, Putin?
Putin makes him look like some cowering, 12 year old.

Isn't Putin the real kind of hero you really want?

 

[kherg007]

What "trend lines"? There are various factors and measurements when it comes to the economy.

Track unemployment, the stock market, inflation, and GDP.

 

[silentkisser]

"What he says"? That offends you? Just words? Does that really matter?
Would you prefer a smooth-talking politician that negatively impacts your life?

He's not a career politician. Wouldn't you rather someone just speak their mind?

Look, the right makes all sorts of comments on Biden, a man who stuttered throughout his lifetime, for any verbal slip up. Yet, they ignore Trump's growing list of mistakes (calling people the wrong name, even mistaking his WIFE for the women he's accused of raping), or the crazy shit he's said (like the Continental Army seizing airports during the revolutionary war). Is that cognitive decline? It sure as fuck could be. And let's not forget about his actions. His policies, like separating kids from the parents when they crossed the border are insane. They still cannot find parents for some of those kids, some who were molested and sexually assaulted in their holding spaces.

There is a massive double standard for the right-wing media, where they crucify Biden for any gaffe, yet downplay or ignore what Trump does.

Everything you said "nope" about...no other president accomplished those things either. He wasn't in office when Russia invaded Ukraine btw.

And consider the magnitude of opponents riddling Trump's tenure with constant witch-hunts and throw in a pandemic...considering the list I provided, there are a lot (not some) of accomplishments all things considered.

Well, you're mostly right. Biden has strengthened NATO and other allies in the wake of Trump's shenanigans over his term. But...and here's the key point: Trump claimed that he did all these things...

 

[Frankfooter]

There is a massive double standard for the right-wing media, where they crucify Biden for any gaffe, yet downplay or ignore what Trump does.

I think you miss the point, the skoobs and oracles of the world feel weak and powerless.
They need some big corrupt, alpha male type they can worship.
The kind of guy who gets away with everything they dream of doing, cheating, stealing, who knows, maybe even a bit of raping and pedophilia.

They see this kind of story and they say 'yes', where can they sign that pledge now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811833786222477742

 

[Valcazar]

Look, the right makes all sorts of comments on Biden, a man who stuttered throughout his lifetime, for any verbal slip up. Yet, they ignore Trump's growing list of mistakes (calling people the wrong name, even mistaking his WIFE for the women he's accused of raping), or the crazy shit he's said (like the Continental Army seizing airports during the revolutionary war). Is that cognitive decline? It sure as fuck could be.

Biden just did an hour long press conference on Foreign Policy.
Trump hasn't done a press conference since February.
The Media should clearly be demanding he do a similar press conference.

Notice how he hasn't been reported on since the debate.
Are the media covering for him?
Are his handlers afraid to let him out due to his cognitive decline?

Will they even let him give a speech at the RNC convention? Or will they tape it in advance and edit it so as not to risk him freezing up live?

There is a massive double standard for the right-wing media, where they crucify Biden for any gaffe, yet downplay or ignore what Trump does.

That's a double standard for the Legacy Media that has existed for decades now.
Just look at the New York Times reporting on the NATO summit and the 90 or so reporters it now has on the Biden beat.

Well, you're mostly right. Biden has strengthened NATO and other allies in the wake of Trump's shenanigans over his term. But...and here's the key point: Trump claimed that he did all these things...

Trump's version of how he "strengthened" NATO has been pretty consistent for a while now.
It's the whole "I made them pay their dues by threatening to let Russia attack them if they didn't pony up" thing - you know, NATO as a protection racket shakedown.

 

[Frankfooter]

Biden just did an hour long press conference on Foreign Policy.
Trump hasn't done a press conference since February.
The Media should clearly be demanding he do a similar press conference.

Notice how he hasn't been reported on since the debate.
Are the media covering for him?
Are his handlers afraid to let him out due to his cognitive decline?

Will they even let him give a speech at the RNC convention? Or will they tape it in advance and edit it so as not to risk him freezing up live?



That's a double standard for the Legacy Media that has existed for decades now.
Just look at the New York Times reporting on the NATO summit and the 90 or so reporters it now has on the Biden beat.



Trump's version of how he "strengthened" NATO has been pretty consistent for a while now.
It's the whole "I made them pay their dues by threatening to let Russia attack them if they didn't pony up" thing - you know, NATO as a protection racket shakedown.

He did do the presser but the only thing that made it to the public afterwards were his vice president Trump type gaffs.
He might be doing ok now, but nobody will believe him after the debate.

Did you watch the debate?

 

[Valcazar]

He did do the presser but the only thing that made it to the public afterwards were his vice president Trump type gaffs.

Exactly.
Some in the media wrote articles that went like "He showed mastery of foreign policy, but stumbled at the beginning".


NY Times front page online.


Dead Tree.



Notice that their reporting on the NATO summit and conference is about the optics, not what was actually going on.
Framed as if he is isolated at NATO by putting it with that picture but not actually reporting on that.

He might be doing ok now, but nobody will believe him after the debate.

That's the point of the press coverage, yes.

 

[Frankfooter]

Exactly.
Some in the media wrote articles that went like "He showed mastery of foreign policy, but stumbled at the beginning".


NY Times front page online.
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Dead Tree.

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Notice that their reporting on the NATO summit and conference is about the optics, not what was actually going on.
Framed as if he is isolated at NATO by putting it with that picture but not actually reporting on that.



That's the point of the press coverage, yes.

That's a bit like PeePee's trip to the north.
The press reported it as 'two veterans faced away during speech' but there was a big line.
PeePee had a rough time answering questions and then ran out the back door.
But you wouldn't know from the media.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811885206770503922

 

[Valcazar]

That's a bit like PeePee's trip to the north.
The press reported it as 'two veterans faced away during speech' but there was a big line.
PeePee had a rough time answering questions and then ran out the back door.
But you wouldn't know from the media.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811885206770503922

It's important to learn about framing and editorial choices.
There is a huge amount you can do by being technically true, but misleading in the framing.
It's something people on this board aren't nearly careful enough about.

 

[Frankfooter]

It's important to learn about framing and editorial choices.
There is a huge amount you can do by being technically true, but misleading in the framing.
It's something people on this board aren't nearly careful enough about.

Same with Project 2025, its important to check all the plan details.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811821123774099608

Project 2025 would overhaul the U.S. tax system. Here's how it could impact you.

Project 2025, a blueprint for the next Republican president, proposes major economic changes that could impact millions of Americans.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Skoob]

Why would you back someone who is so obviously weak compared to his hero, Putin?
Putin makes him look like some cowering, 12 year old.

Isn't Putin the real kind of hero you really want?

If Putin was more powerful he would have invaded Ukraine when Trump was in power.
He invaded before Trump became POTUS during Obama's tenure...and again during Biden's tenure...not during.
Who would you say is afraid of who?

You posted a pic of Trump with Putin and I posted ones with him & your heroes. You have no point other than to troll and show how badly your TDS is. Be honest with yourself.

 

[Skoob]

Track unemployment, the stock market, inflation, and GDP.

Sorry, I don't accept homework from strangers on the internet.

How about you show your work and we can take it from there?

I can sit here and throw generalizations around too. Would that be your preference?

 

[Skoob]

Look, the right makes all sorts of comments on Biden, a man who stuttered throughout his lifetime, for any verbal slip up. Yet, they ignore Trump's growing list of mistakes (calling people the wrong name, even mistaking his WIFE for the women he's accused of raping), or the crazy shit he's said (like the Continental Army seizing airports during the revolutionary war). Is that cognitive decline? It sure as fuck could be. And let's not forget about his actions. His policies, like separating kids from the parents when they crossed the border are insane. They still cannot find parents for some of those kids, some who were molested and sexually assaulted in their holding spaces.

There is a massive double standard for the right-wing media, where they crucify Biden for any gaffe, yet downplay or ignore what Trump does.




Well, you're mostly right. Biden has strengthened NATO and other allies in the wake of Trump's shenanigans over his term. But...and here's the key point: Trump claimed that he did all these things...

Remember when they accused Trump of putting kids in cages, over a photograph at the border? The outrage! How could he do that! Bastard!

The it was discovered that those photos were taken during Obama's tenure. Crickets.

That pretty much sums things up.

btw the media is significantly more left-leaning across the board.

Compare the media outlets on the left vs the right in terms of magnitude, audience, reach, etc.




https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

 

[Frankfooter]

If Putin was more powerful he would have invaded Ukraine when Trump was in power.
He invaded before Trump became POTUS during Obama's tenure...and again during Biden's tenure...not during.
Who would you say is afraid of who?

You posted a pic of Trump with Putin and I posted ones with him & your heroes. You have no point other than to troll and show how badly your TDS is. Be honest with yourself.

Nah, Putin got pissed because rump blacking mailing Zelensky over weapons failed so poorly.
Not only did rump totally fuck up and have the call recorded, the blackmail attempt got him impeached.

Once Biden was in power he new he had to invade soon before the US followed through with promises for more weapons.
Putin knew he didn't have to worry about Ukraine with rump around, he had rump under control like the pussy he is.

 

[Skoob]

Nah, Putin got pissed because rump blacking mailing Zelensky over weapons failed so poorly.
Not only did rump totally fuck up and have the call recorded, the blackmail attempt got him impeached.

Once Biden was in power he new he had to invade soon before the US followed through with promises for more weapons.
Putin knew he didn't have to worry about Ukraine with rump around, he had rump under control like the pussy he is.

Cool story bro.

I think I'll stick with the facts of what actually happened during Obama and Biden's watch.

 

[Frankfooter]

Cool story bro.

I think I'll stick with the facts of what actually happened during Obama and Biden's watch.

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