PROPOSITION

[Frankfooter]

I asked you to conduct a poll since you are the one full of poor assumptions, desperate insults and false accusations. I don't need to prove what everyone here already knows. You do.
If you disagree, then conduct a poll.

Otherwise, I stand by what I said. No one trusts you.

I'd like to ask you to take a senility test.
If you disagree, we will all know you are senile.

 

[Skoob]

Hmm. I honestly don't recall seeing this on TERB, but I do recall reading it back in 2020.

It is interesting to look at this, because the writer points out what is true, and gives credit as well. So, for example, the Flint water rescue, both Trump and Obama get credit.

And, elsewhere on the list, the Biden administration can rightfully claim they've surpassed Trump (i.e., stock market highs, wage growth, lowest unemployment rate, lifting people out of poverty etc.).

Now, the bottom line is, I am wrong: Trump did do some things that helped the average American. But, it is also true that the wealthy and business owners probably benefited more. I'm not trying to move goalposts, but if you look at the tax breaks they got, that likely helped the rich significantly more than the middle class.

I would also point out, as I had earlier, that Trump failed to pass a lot of the stuff he wanted, which does show he is ineffectual. He wanted to repeal the ACA, didn't happen. He wanted to pass an infrastructure bill. Didn't happen. He wanted to build a wall, and only a small portion ever got done. And only the infrastructure bill would have likely helped the average person (because, let's face it, roads and bridges need to be maintained, building more EV chargers is going to be important, and expanding internet coverage to rural areas is also important).

The point here is that when listening to people who hate Trump for personal reasons like the way he looks or speaks, etc, they overlook the facts of what he actually accomplished.
Every President has succeeded and failed in some areas. Every president has pleased some people and neglected others.
Every president inherits partial goals and initiatives and every president completes work that was already started or stops and moves in a different direction.
When it comes to Trump, probably more than any president before him...bias will magnify what he failed at, and ignore what he accomplished.
But to make sweeping assumptions that Trump didn't do anything, only plays into a narrative that is inaccurate and full of confirmation bias.

 

[Skoob]

I'd like to ask you to take a senility test.
If you disagree, we will all know you are senile.

I would agree if I was the one accusing someone else of being senile.

 

[silentkisser]

The point here is that when listening to people who hate Trump for personal reasons like the way he looks or speaks, etc, they overlook the facts of what he actually accomplished.
Every President has succeeded and failed in some areas. Every president has pleased some people and neglected others.
Every president inherits partial goals and initiatives and every president completes work that was already started or stops and moves in a different direction.
When it comes to Trump, probably more than any president before him...bias will magnify what he failed at, and ignore what he accomplished.
But to make sweeping assumptions that Trump didn't do anything, only plays into a narrative that is inaccurate and full of confirmation bias.

I don't hate him for the way he looks, nor the way he speaks. It's what he says and does. The man says so many horrible things that if you think he's saying them by mistake, he is certainly unfit for office. I mean, how can he continue to say so many stupid and offensive things that he doesn't recognize the error???

But, yes, Trump has done some good. But you cannot deny that his administration was filled with failure. Failed initiatives, failed appointments, failed diplomacy. Did he stop North Korea from testing missiles or building nukes? Nope. Did he stop Russia from doing shit in Ukraine? Nope. Did he bring peace to the middle east? No. Did he strengthen America's relationships with allies? Nope.

 

[Skoob]

I don't hate him for the way he looks, nor the way he speaks. It's what he says and does. The man says so many horrible things that if you think he's saying them by mistake, he is certainly unfit for office. I mean, how can he continue to say so many stupid and offensive things that he doesn't recognize the error???

But, yes, Trump has done some good. But you cannot deny that his administration was filled with failure. Failed initiatives, failed appointments, failed diplomacy. Did he stop North Korea from testing missiles or building nukes? Nope. Did he stop Russia from doing shit in Ukraine? Nope. Did he bring peace to the middle east? No. Did he strengthen America's relationships with allies? Nope.

"What he says"? That offends you? Just words? Does that really matter?
Would you prefer a smooth-talking politician that negatively impacts your life?

He's not a career politician. Wouldn't you rather someone just speak their mind?

Everything you said "nope" about...no other president accomplished those things either. He wasn't in office when Russia invaded Ukraine btw.

And consider the magnitude of opponents riddling Trump's tenure with constant witch-hunts and throw in a pandemic...considering the list I provided, there are a lot (not some) of accomplishments all things considered.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Trumps first 3 years economic numbers were no better than Obama's last 3. It's just Fox news called 2.4% GDP growth "pathetic" when Obama was president, and 2.4% GDP growth "roaring" when Trump was president. Then Trump tanked the economy and totally fucked up covid. He signed the deal with the taliban that fucked up that departure. He signed the deal with Saudis to cut back on oil production during pandemic to keep prices/profits high. It was the direct cause of huge inflation in petrol prices once pandemic cleared. He sold out allies (Kurds). Unilaterally discarded treaties (making USA forever untrustworthy in its commitments). He sided with dictators and murderers, attacked allies and democracies. He ceded the pacific to china. He sided with putin. He stole documents, led an insurrection based entirely on a lie. Currently NO ONE WHO WORKED WITH HIM ENDORSES HIM. IN FACT, THEY ALL SAY HE IS UNFIT FOR OFFICE. Everyone around him are convicted felons, including Trump. On the way out his treasury secretary and son in law earned billions. Trump and his daughter made millions when in the white house. His administration had the second most indictments of any administration after Nixon.
America was a laughing stock when Trump was president. He was laughed at the UN. Respect for America plummeted everywhere in the world except Russia and Israel.
Outside of that...

you forgot the tariff turd when he made all Chinese products way more expensive for American consumers and had to bail out the farmers in the mid west when they retaliated. Also the 8.2 trillion dollar tax cuts which America could not afford and resulted in job losses and no new infastructure or industry. It was the highest spending in history.

 

[Skoob]

He was laughed at the UN.

You mean when he scolded countries (like Canada and many others) for not living up to their financial commitments?
And this month in the NATO summit countries agreed to live up to their commitments?

 

[kherg007]

You mean when he scolded countries (like Canada and many others) for not living up to their financial commitments?
And this month in the NATO summit countries agreed to live up to their commitments?

No, I was referring to him being laughed at at the UN when he started into his usual bs back when he was president.

 

[Frankfooter]

"What he says"? That offends you? Just words? Does that really matter?
Would you prefer a smooth-talking politician that negatively impacts your life?

He's not a career politician. Wouldn't you rather someone just speak their mind?

Everything you said "nope" about...no other president accomplished those things either. He wasn't in office when Russia invaded Ukraine btw.

And consider the magnitude of opponents riddling Trump's tenure with constant witch-hunts and throw in a pandemic...considering the list I provided, there are a lot (not some) of accomplishments all things considered.

I'd rather not have a conman who cheated his taxes, his workers, his investors, his charity, his university, his golf game and his wives.
I'd rather not put a convicted felon in power.
I'd rather not put a pedophile rapist in power.

You want him in power because he can get away with this shit and you hope some day you can too.

 

[Frankfooter]

You mean when he scolded countries (like Canada and many others) for not living up to their financial commitments?
And this month in the NATO summit countries agreed to live up to their commitments?

You want this?

 

[K Douglas]

Sure, skoob, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Just like you tell yourself that this isn't really rump's plan.

Complete fear mongering. But I do agree with several of those initiatives most notably abolishing the Dept. of Education, withdrawing from the Paris Agreement and reversing student debt forgiveness.

 

[Skoob]

You want this?

Want what? World leaders in photos with Putin?

 

[Skoob]

I'd rather not have a conman who cheated his taxes, his workers, his investors, his charity, his university, his golf game and his wives.
I'd rather not put a convicted felon in power.
I'd rather not put a pedophile rapist in power.

You want him in power because he can get away with this shit and you hope some day you can too.

Did I mention it's fun watching you becoming unglued at the prosect of Trump becoming president again? Lol!

 

[niniveh]

Trump (and I hate to say it ) gets in office but the house and senate go to the democrats, who would happen

No matter what permutations and combinations among House, Senate, White House obtain in November, it will not make one whit of a difference. All these sombre warnings that democracy is being destroyed are simply cute campaign strategy. How can you destroy something that doesn't exist and has not existed for decades, if ever. These United States will continue plodding on, not as a government of, for and by the people but a rule of billionaires and their deplorable lobbyists, for the benefit of the very same billionaires and their despicable lobbyists.
So yous holds your nose and makes your choice between an orange oaf of a sociopath, or a stumbling liberal who promotes genocide just to keep his billionaire donors onside.
Democracy is not manna and salwaa and doesn;t drop from heaven.
A republic if you can keep it were the wise words of an early-American.

 

[Skoob]

No, I was referring to him being laughed at at the UN when he started into his usual bs back when he was president.

What bs?

 

[Frankfooter]

Want what? World leaders in photos with Putin?

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Thanks for posting those.
Not one of them is cowering in fear the way your orange mussolini does in the presence of Putin.

You proved my point.

 

[Frankfooter]

Did I mention it's fun watching you becoming unglued at the prosect of Trump becoming president again? Lol!

You are a troll.
That's proof.

 

[kherg007]

What bs?

He and his admin accomplished more in 2 years than ever in history of usa, economy booming like never before..etc.

 

[Skoob]

Thanks for posting those.
Not one of them is cowering in fear the way your orange mussolini does in the presence of Putin.

You proved my point.

What was your point?
You never made one...you just posted a pic.

Are you inventing a point now that you've tripped over your own hypocrisy again?

 

[Skoob]

He and his admin accomplished more in 2 years than ever in history of usa, economy booming like never before..etc.

Economy was indeed booming before the pandemic.
What does that have to do with NATO?