Populism On The Rise In Canada As "Unelectable" Pierre Poilievre Sweeps Conservative Leadership

[Valcazar]

How about Baby DeSantis then?

That's probably closer, although I don't know if PP is as willing to indulge his authoritarianism as DeSantis clearly is.

 

[bver_hunter]

Sure, but I think he can sell those promises well.

Yes, for sure and only to the most gullible ones!!

 

[Frankfooter]

It's Canada. The opportunities for graft are scanty.

He's been under investigation for electoral improprieties. He appears to have amassed a large sum without having a lucrative job. He does not appear smart to me. He supported the kkkonvoy to an even greater degree than some of the other right wing Tories. And if he's so fucking smart, then he knows that the kkkonvoy people were a lumpen of neo fascist lunkheads who were financed by outside interests to wreak havoc in my country.

So that makes him a corrupt, scheming piece of shit.

PP raised more money than any other candidate, that same foreign convoy money was likely backing him as well. I have no idea if party donations have to be reported the same way as campaigns, though.
PP also managed to get Brown off the ticket, which is a bit more trump like.

He knows the foreign convoy crowd are now his backers, he's going to be stuck on that platform.

 

[squeezer]

I can post 2+2=4 and you'll disagree. You're an ideologue like all lefties. If you paid attention to what Poilievre said, you'd know how he wants to help with the housing shortage...because he actually spelled it out.

2 + 2 is 4, we agree, see how easy that was now please answer my questions without deflecting. I am not providing you with a hockey too dammit!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

I don't disagree with any of that, but political identity tends to be strong.

It also doesn't answer the question unless you think it will be a landslide and the CPC just sweep everywhere.
If the suggestion is that Trudeau loses Quebec he is done for (I agree), then what dynamic do you see happening?
Is it the BQ voters going CPC?
Is it Libs in Quebec going CPC?
Is it Libs in Quebec going NDP?

That's what I was asking.

Do I care which specific groups turn their backs on Justin Trudeau?
Nope

After another couple of years of persistent inflation Canadians will have had lost more than enough purchasing power to seek changes
A landslide ? maybe, maybe not
That might depend on how many more self inflicted wounds Justin has
will he be stupid enough to raise the carbon tax as planned, feeding the inflation monster?

Quebec ?
Pierre Poilievre is much better positioned to making inroads into Quebec than Andrew Scheer and Erin O'Toole
Quebecois feel the pain of inflation just the same as other Canadians


Timing
Justin has painted himself into a corner wrt timing
Does he call a snap election hoping to catch PP unprepared?
He already played that card in 2021 & it did not go as planned

or does he stretch out the mandate while persistent inflation undermines him on a daily basis ?

 

[JohnLarue]

It's Canada. The opportunities for graft are scanty.

Yet Justin seems to be able to sniff them out, .. Can you say WEI or SNC ?

He's been under investigation for electoral improprieties

Are you sure you want to bring up ethics ?
brown face
WEI
SNC
Aga Khan

. He appears to have amassed a large sum without having a lucrative job

.

https://caknowledge.com/justin-trudeau-net-worth/
Justin Trudeau’s Net Worth is $85 Million US Dollars.

A spoiled Trust Fund baby who has never truly worked hard in his life
Justin has also never utter a truly honest word in his life, he is fake as fake gets

He does not appear smart to me.

Too funny
Pierre is smart enough to apply common sense

Besides your standard is the moron Justin Trudeau

He supported the kkkonvoy to an even greater degree than some of the other right wing Tories. And if he's so fucking smart, then he knows that the kkkonvoy people were a lumpen of neo fascist lunkheads who were financed by outside interests to wreak havoc in my country.

Now you are repeating the liberal lies.
Trucker convoy financing: No spike in 'suspicious' transactions | CTV News
The deputy director of intelligence at Canada’s financial intelligence agency says he hasn’t seen a spike in “suspicious” transaction reporting amid concerns about the sources of funds pouring in for the “Freedom Convoy.”

So that makes him a corrupt, scheming piece of shit.

That is a tab harse description of Justin Trudeau
Justin is too stupid to be scheming, he has Gerald to do that for him

Your ability to evaluate character & intelligence is brutal
comical, yet brutal

 

[wigglee]

pop·u·lism
/ˈpäpyəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
"the question is whether he will tone down his fiery populism now that he has joined the political establishment"
support for populist politicians or policies.
"the government came to power on a wave of populism"
the quality of appealing to or being aimed at ordinary people.
"art museums did not gain bigger audiences through a new populism"

Yep, Pierre Poilievre is downright dangerous. ROTFLMFAO!!

Populists appeal with angry redneck slogans to the uneducated masses. They have little use for democracy and always scapegoat "outsiders".... just your kind of hero I suppose.

 

[wigglee]

Do I care which specific groups turn their backs on Justin Trudeau?
Nope

After another couple of years of persistent inflation Canadians will have had lost more than enough purchasing power to seek changes
A landslide ? maybe, maybe not
That might depend on how many more self inflicted wounds Justin has
will he be stupid enough to raise the carbon tax as planned, feeding the inflation monster?

Quebec ?
Pierre Poilievre is much better positioned to making inroads into Quebec than Andrew Scheer and Erin O'Toole
Quebecois feel the pain of inflation just the same as other Canadians


Timing
Justin has painted himself into a corner wrt timing
Does he call a snap election hoping to catch PP unprepared?
He already played that card in 2021 & it did not go as planned

or does he stretch out the mandate while persistent inflation undermines him on a daily basis ?

how's PP gonna strangle inflation.... with Tweets or with Bitcoin?

 

[JohnLarue]

how's PP gonna strangle inflation.... with Tweets or with Bitcoin?

1. kill the carbon tax.
2. reign in govt spending

you can bet your last devaluing dollar Justin will keep the carbon tax and keep spending
These policies will work against the efforts by the Bank of Canada to reduce inflation
Inflation will remain persistent until Justin Trudeau has a new work assignment

 

[JohnLarue]

Populists appeal with angry redneck slogans to the uneducated masses. They have little use for democracy and always scapegoat a "outsiders".... just your kind of hero I suppose.

Meanwhile your hero just loves Chinas basic dictatorship
Trudeau under fire for expressing admiration for China's 'basic dictatorship' | CTV News

There’s a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime

latter he initiated the emergencies act to squash a protest against his policies
And he wants to control free speech on the internet

Are you going to offer up any more layups ?
Too Funny

 

[Frankfooter]

1. kill the carbon tax.
2. reign in govt spending

Most Canadians were against the freedom convoy, PP rode it.
Most Canadians support carbon taxes to do something about the environmental mess you are trying to aid.

PP keeps picking losing positions, keep at it.

More than two-third of Canadians support the federal government's climate policy announcements: poll

Canadians were split on how they rate the country's effort to address climate change, with half agreeing that Canada has taken great strides and 40 per cent disagre…

financialpost.com

 

[six_pac]

Here's what you don't understand.

The CPC is now attracting MAGA type rank and file party members and all the old Bay Street Tory types have bailed. You can nominate whoever the fuck you want. The Communists and Greens nominate leaders all the time. But you have to get non party members to vote for that person in a general election. That's where it gets challenging for PeePee - a dislike-able candidate with a sketchy past and extremist, populist views in a very centrist and non populist country.

So he got nominated to lead a party which will get its ass kicked in the next election. Not much of a win.

The reason that O' Toole didn't do better was that behind the moderate and likeable O' Toole, most Ontario urban voters sensed the large, nasty, wriggly snake that is the mass of the current CPC and refused to vote for him - despite the fact that O' Toole was brighter and more likeable than Justin. And as soon as O' Toole lost, the modern CPC immediately showed its true colours, dumped O' T and elected PeePee - a dumb, nasty, little prick.

And everybody has already pretty much figured out that he IS a dumb, nasty, little prick.

So unless Justin fucks up spectacularly in the next 2 years, PeePee and the CPeeC will win every rural riding in Eastern Ontario, SK, AB, MB and the BC interior and lose everywhere else and the Libs will win 180 seats again. Because 50% of the population now lives in the EGH, Vancouver and the Montreal-Ottawa corridor - areas which will absolutely hate and despise PeePee and the new CPeeC.

So giving away houndreds of millions of dollars that are greatly needed to Canadian healthcare and education to finance an American war in Ukraine,and rasing a federal gas tax during the largest enwrgy and economical crisis on the planet, is not something you would call a spectacular fuckup, well Canadians would tend to disagree.

 

[six_pac]

Most Canadians were against the freedom convoy, PP rode it.
Most Canadians support carbon taxes to do something about the environmental mess you are trying to aid.

PP keeps picking losing positions, keep at it.

More than two-third of Canadians support the federal government's climate policy announcements: poll

Canadians were split on how they rate the country's effort to address climate change, with half agreeing that Canada has taken great strides and 40 per cent disagre…

financialpost.com

Please dont describe yourself as most canadians, ans envioremental issues are not solved by taxation but throigh implementation of new manufacturing technologies.

Liberals be like
Raise carbon tax, and shut down the nukes, now lets burn more natrual gass to offset the ballance, but since we taxed the gass it is not poluting anymore as much, yaayy lets give ourself a tap on the back and think of the new way to launder tax payers cash in to our own pockets.

 

[six_pac]

Inflation is global.
Even so, JT has done what every old school right winger says you have to do for inflation.
Raise interest rates.

So what else do you think he should have done?

Not give away our money to foreign countries, in exchange for nothing, and not raise gas tax in the middle of gas crisis, just the two that come to mind.

 

[six_pac]

His wife owns a condo that they rent out. It was hers before they got married.
He co-owns a condo in Calgary through an incorporated company.
He and his wife co-own their principal residence, a house in Nepean.
Polievre has made a mid six figure salary since he was 25 years old. Given that I don't see what he owns as being extravagant.
65% of all MP's own a rental property. I guess they're all elitists by your definition?

Well compared to thw reat of Canada I tens to agree that they are elitist, now that said, I sont trust a word Piere says, but also never Trusted the black face either, no politician gets that high up without having an agenda or representing special interest groups.

Still evwn knowing I am being lied to by both Libs and Cons, I will vote Cons aince the Libs are way to loose with our checkbook and have turned once democratic cou try in to a autochratic dictatorship.

 

[six_pac]

PP raised more money than any other candidate, that same foreign convoy money was likely backing him as well. I have no idea if party donations have to be reported the same way as campaigns, though.
PP also managed to get Brown off the ticket, which is a bit more trump like.

He knows the foreign convoy crowd are now his backers, he's going to be stuck on that platform.

Funny how you call it Foreign, while Canadians of all ages, groups and races were there in frigid cold protesting something that was obviously wrong from day one and should have never been mandated in the first place but should be and should stay an individual choice.

And still Liberal Troll army prottecting the black face dictator is trying hard to paint them as foreign and racist.

 

[Valcazar]

Do I care which specific groups turn their backs on Justin Trudeau?
Nope

OK.

 

[Valcazar]

Populists appeal with angry redneck slogans to the uneducated masses. They have little use for democracy and always scapegoat a "outsiders".... just your kind of hero I suppose.

"Populism" is usually "we the real people have to target them the elites who aren't real [insert country identity here]" (and maybe their stooges).

The elite part is more important to the rhetoric than the outsiders part. (But the outsiders aren't "real folk like us" either.)

 

[Frankfooter]

Please dont describe yourself as most canadians, ans envioremental issues are not solved by taxation but throigh implementation of new manufacturing technologies.

Liberals be like
Raise carbon tax, and shut down the nukes, now lets burn more natrual gass to offset the ballance, but since we taxed the gass it is not poluting anymore as much, yaayy lets give ourself a tap on the back and think of the new way to launder tax payers cash in to our own pockets.

There is $39 trillion in investment that's going to renewables.
Stop pushing the Exxon crap and take a look around you.

Investors with $39 trillion urge government to plan fossil fuel phase out By Reuters

Investors with $39 trillion urge government to plan fossil fuel phase out

www.investing.com

 

[Frankfooter]

Funny how you call it Foreign, while Canadians of all ages, groups and races were there in frigid cold protesting something that was obviously wrong from day one and should have never been mandated in the first place but should be and should stay an individual choice.

And still Liberal Troll army prottecting the black face dictator is trying hard to paint them as foreign and racist.

Its there on the documents in court.
Over 50% of the money that went to the 'freedom convoy' came from foreigners.
Likely wacko republicans and Putin, who spent $300 million on backing foreign extremists just to screw countries he doesn't like.