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[K Douglas]

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Edmonton has been quite left for a while now. That's where Rachel Notley had a lot of support even when she lost the Premiership. The CPC should hold up to 3 ridings there - Gateway, Riverbend and Northwest. That despite favorable redistribution for the Liberal/NDP camps. Of course this is dependent upon Liberal/NDP vote split. If it sways one way it could cause some very tight races.

 

[Jenesis]

Do you still believe this a week later? Perhaps we should have a friendly wager.

I still think that. If I'm wrong about a liberal win, PC won't win a majority. No one is winning a majority this election.

 

[mandrill]

Say what you want about Rebel News this video is a complete indictment of the Liberal mismanagement that has gone on for the past decade.

Aren't tent cities a problem that Duggo created, Kirk?

When did the feds control social assistance and shelters in Toronto?.... That's right. They fucking don't, do they?

But of course, everything is Justin's fault......

 

[mandrill]

More important than the raw numbers, of course, is their distribution among seats.

Which massively favours the LPC.

 

[mandrill]

Progressives are being attracted to Carney, as they have more trust in him rather than Pee pee, especially in light of addressing Trump's delusional tariffs that is going to negatively impact all economies around the Globe!!

Are you more clear as to what Pee pee's agenda is after he was appointed as the leader of the Conservative Government? He has stated that he supports affordable housing but has voted against it, just like he did for Childcare and Dental programs. The only transparency on his side has been his anger at question time in Parliament where practically on numerous occasions he starts his question with "Why does the PM....blah, blah, blah, blah", and so on and on. No wonder that his advisers persuaded him to get rid of those prescription glasses in favour of his current contact lenses to display less of an anger attitude. It worked for a time though not with the Progressives.

But this was your original statement.



If you go by the current polls, it looks like it is the opposite, as most people will see it as a loss if the Conservatives do control the Government!!
The other issue where you were questioning the "policies" was taken out of context!!



I was not questioning the "policies" as it was about "backtracking" the refusal of Trudeau to initially resign. So not sure why you dragged the policies into the mix!!

Earp lives in a delusional world where all the good guys are far right politicians and the rest of us are just too stupid and brainwashed to see it.

So when we choose Carney, we are morons and will eventually realize our foolishness and repent.

 

[Frankfooter]

Aren't tent cities a problem that Duggo created, Kirk?

When did the feds control social assistance and shelters in Toronto?.... That's right. They fucking don't, do they?

But of course, everything is Justin's fault......

Encampments and Measles increases are two of DoFo's biggest successes.
Provincial responsibilities.

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[mandrill]

Do you still believe this a week later? Perhaps we should have a friendly wager.

Kirk almost all polling now has the LPC at 190+ seats, 20 more than the 172 necessary for a majority.

Now polling can be wrong. For instance, I understand the polls were wrong about Harry Truman in 1950, 75 years ago. And possibly once or twice since.

But they're probably accurate because they're largely unanimous and because the prediction is so emphatic. And because this is what the pollsters do for a living and how they make their coin.

Now explain to me why these polls are universally so very, very wrong and the very opposite is going to happen??

 

[The Mechanic]

I still think that. If I'm wrong about a liberal win, PC won't win a majority. No one is winning a majority this election.

The real winner is Jagmeet Singh, he will cozy up with either the liberals or the PCs. We will find out in a couple of weeks I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Jenesis]

The real winner is Jagmeet Singh, he will cozy up with either the liberals or the PCs. We will find out in a couple of weeks I hope I’m wrong.

This is true. It gives him more power then he was elected for since he can pick sides on whatever he feels like that day.

 

[WyattEarp]

Progressives are being attracted to Carney, as they have more trust in him rather than Pee pee, especially in light of addressing Trump's delusional tariffs that is going to negatively impact all economies around the Globe!!

Are you more clear as to what Pee pee's agenda is after he was appointed as the leader of the Conservative Government? He has stated that he supports affordable housing but has voted against it, just like he did for Childcare and Dental programs. The only transparency on his side has been his anger at question time in Parliament where practically on numerous occasions he starts his question with "Why does the PM....blah, blah, blah, blah", and so on and on. No wonder that his advisers persuaded him to get rid of those prescription glasses in favour of his current contact lenses to display less of an anger attitude. It worked for a time though not with the Progressives.

But this was your original statement.



If you go by the current polls, it looks like it is the opposite, as most people will see it as a loss if the Conservatives do control the Government!!
The other issue where you were questioning the "policies" was taken out of context!!



I was not questioning the "policies" as it was about "backtracking" the refusal of Trudeau to initially resign. So not sure why you dragged the policies into the mix!!

I'm not sure what you are trying to argue about. I'll bullet it point for you.

- I was trying to say that if the Conservatives don't control the government, it is an electoral loss for them regardless if they were to win a plurality. I'm not sure what you are reading. Please be careful in interpreting what plurality means. It's also very possible the Conservatives don't win a plurality.

- As far as policies, I don't know. You seemed to rattle off a bunch of policies that you felt the Conservatives and Poilievre should have supported.

 

[mandrill]

The real winner is Jagmeet Singh, he will cozy up with either the liberals or the PCs. We will find out in a couple of weeks I hope I’m wrong.

Probably the wrong-est take I have seen on this election.

It's likely a LPC majority or very strong minority with the NDP almost destroyed. If a minority, then the balance of power is held by the BQ.

Just reading back the polls, dudes.

 

[bver_hunter]

I'm not sure what you are trying to argue about. I'll bullet it point for you.

- I was trying to say that if the Conservatives don't control the government, it is an electoral loss for them regardless if they were to win a plurality. I'm not sure what you are reading. Please be careful in interpreting what plurality means. It's also very possible the Conservatives don't win a plurality.

- As far as policies, I don't know. You seemed to rattle off a bunch of policies that you felt the Conservatives and Poilievre should have supported.

Really, that is not what you stated. Maybe you have a short memory. That bullet is pointing in your direction as you clearly stated that "MOST PEOPLE" would say that if the Conservatives don't control the government it will be deemed an electoral loss. All I was saying at this stage is that if Carney's Liberals lose the elections then it is his to lose, as he is ahead in most polls, with some even stating that it will be a Liberal Majority Government. If the Conservatives do not win then most people WOULD NOT consider it to be an "ELECTORAL LOSS" as they voted for the Liberals. The minority who voted Conservative would consider it to be an electoral loss. Maybe you now get it.

Pee Pee is a hypocrite as he promised Affordable Housing, though he voted against it. He voted against Childcare and Dental for low income Canadians. Well he gets free Dental as well as Huge Pensions from the Taxpayers generosity!! Not sure what exactly are his policies as you have not spelled them out, and are just critical about The Liberals. Yet just four reporters are handpicked to ask questions at his rallies. He does not allow reporters to travel on his planes or coaches. Then he wont answer a question posed by a reporter:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6717169

Say no more about Pee Pee!!

 

[WyattEarp]

Really, that is not what you stated. Maybe you have a short memory. That bullet is pointing in your direction as you clearly stated that "MOST PEOPLE" would say that if the Conservatives don't control the government it will be deemed an electoral loss. All I was saying at this stage is that if Carney's Liberals lose the elections then it is his to lose, as he is ahead in most polls, with some even stating that it will be a Liberal Majority Government. If the Conservatives do not win then most people WOULD NOT consider it to be an "ELECTORAL LOSS" as they voted for the Liberals. The minority who voted Conservative would consider it to be an electoral loss. Maybe you now get it.

Pee Pee is a hypocrite as he promised Affordable Housing, though he voted against it. He voted against Childcare and Dental for low income Canadians. Well he gets free Dental as well as Huge Pensions from the Taxpayers generosity!! Not sure what exactly are his policies as you have not spelled them out, and are just critical about The Liberals. Yet just four reporters are handpicked to ask questions at his rallies. He does not allow reporters to travel on his planes or coaches. Then he wont answer a question posed by a reporter:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6717169

Say no more about Pee Pee!!

As I said, you're trying to read too much into my posts. No offense, I am especially perplexed about why you were laser focused on my comment about a Conservative electoral loss. It was fairly innocuous.

Again, please understand the use of the word plurality. From my vantage point, the Conservatives won a plurality of the electorate in 2021, but did not control Parliament. I'm always willing to learn more about the multiparty system in Canada.

Don't worry there is always more opportunities for disagreement.

 

[bver_hunter]

As I said, you're trying to read too much into my posts. No offense, I am especially perplexed about why you were laser focused on my comment about a Conservative electoral loss. It was fairly innocuous.

Again, please understand the use of the word plurality. From my vantage point, the Conservatives won a plurality of the electorate in 2021, but did not control Parliament. I'm always willing to learn more about the multiparty system in Canada.

Don't worry there is always more opportunities for disagreement.

When you are proven to be wrong just accept it for once!!

 

[WyattEarp]

When you are proven to be wrong just accept it for once!!

I think I've been down this path before with you. Please cite my original post and specifically break down where you take issue.

Otherwise, I feel like I am in your straw man exercise where you feel compelled to challenge my posts without much context. Thanks in advance.

 

[K Douglas]

I still think that. If I'm wrong about a liberal win, PC won't win a majority. No one is winning a majority this election.

I forsee a CPC strong minority but praying for a majority. The PPC vote split could hurt them in a few ridings.

 

[K Douglas]

Kirk almost all polling now has the LPC at 190+ seats, 20 more than the 172 necessary for a majority.

Now polling can be wrong. For instance, I understand the polls were wrong about Harry Truman in 1950, 75 years ago. And possibly once or twice since.

But they're probably accurate because they're largely unanimous and because the prediction is so emphatic. And because this is what the pollsters do for a living and how they make their coin.

Now explain to me why these polls are universally so very, very wrong and the very opposite is going to happen??

I am more than confident that the LPC will not win close to 190 seats.

 

[K Douglas]

Hello everyone, the thing that all of us should ask ourselves at election time is Are you better off financially today then you were in 2015, look around and see where we are as a country as a whole,there is a lot of our population that is hurting and it's only getting worse, politics is not about how good looking your Priminster is we are not picking someone for a roll in a movie, I here you about PP and his tone and I agree, but regardless we have to remember Trump is an effing buffoon, everyone knew what he was going to do if he became President again it's not a surprise , Canada is not going to become the 51 state no matter what, I am a centrist, my vote can swing for which policy makes the most sense that will move us forward.
We are a wealthy country with resources like no where else on this planet, we cannot forget that Mark Carney has been advising the Liberals since 2000, the way that we move forward Is to extract our resources and sell them to the world, elections are a very explosive subject and I hope that everyone is reading my response with an open mind we have stop being divided we have been for to long, Mark Carney is a banker not a polition, we have to ask ourselves , why would a executive that earns millions of dollars in the private sector every year wants to be the prime minister of Canada, makes ,me wonder when did everybody like Bankers all of sudden, I encourage everybody to Google his name and read about him see what he is all about, you can not continue to just tax a population and generate revenue to keep a country going financially strong, Trump is not the reason why we are as vulnerable as stand today, its because of the policies that have been I implemented from that government that has been in power for the last 10 years, and when you see where we are as a country today Mark Carney had a major role in all of this, does anybody realize that Brookfield investment the company the he Chairman of the board of owns 7 Enbridge pipe in Canda, do you really think he wants more pipelines to be built in Canada of course he doesn't it will take away profits from all his investments the he has in shares that are in trust, We need a strong Polition that knows what it takes to run a country not a Banker, say what you will about the Conservatives but I will say this we need change in government or if we all think it will get better, it will only get worse, has everybody notice the way Mark Carney has responding when a female reporter asks him a questions and pushes him for an answer what his reaction has been, now I know that people on this blog are going to but what about PP and his responses, the difference is many of the reporters always try to ask him a gotcha question and he is way to smart to go down those rabbit holes, but he always answers the question.
We have to ask ourselves which evil do we want Mark Carney that has lived in Canada maybe 5 of the last 34 years, has no experience on how to run a government, was involved in all the Liberal scandals since he was advising the Trudeux goverment for the last almost 6 years, A Banker that was the chairman of the board for" Brookfield Investments" that has been doing consulting work for the Liberal government and we have been paying with our tax dollars an average of 18 Billion dollars annually for the Last 7 TO 8 years, if you don't believe me get on your computer and go to "Canada Federal Data Base," click your way to to the files "Canada Spends" and in the search bar key in " brookfi" and start scrolling.
This is information that is available from from our federal government that any citizen can access at any time, and just keep scrolling and read all the contracts from all different departments in our government that "Broofield Investments" and all there sub company's have filled the pockets of "Mark Carney " and all the investors from Brookfield with all that tax payers money that gets deducted from our salary's weekly.
Also lets not forget not only the 2 Foreign Chinese Scandals with the candidates in MarkhamOnt. this passed week that have taken place with the Liberal party, and the meetings that have taken place with Mark Carney with and the president of China and the Mayor of Being in October Of 2024 we need to ask ourselves what's going on, what are the meeting about, didn't we just have an inquiry into foreign interference , Is Mark Carney already dealing with a foreign Government, what about all his off shore account not only in Bermuda but it was announced just today that he has been putting his money in off shore account in The Cayman islands WOW what a quadinkdink .

That was a bit of a tough read but the content was logical and rational. Kudos to you. I think most centrists, many of whom dislike PP as a leader, will still vote CPC. Because they know what the alternative means.

 

[K Douglas]

Aren't tent cities a problem that Duggo created, Kirk?

When did the feds control social assistance and shelters in Toronto?.... That's right. They fucking don't, do they?

But of course, everything is Justin's fault......

Are tent cities only endemic to Ontario? Of course they aren't. They are part of a much broader problem.

The Surging Rise of Tent Cities in Canada - Cause and Effect

Welcome to the growing phenomenon sweeping our great white north: tent cities in Canada. Explore the reasons homelessness is growing together.

runfromcanada.com

 

[Frankfooter]

Are tent cities only endemic to Ontario? Of course they aren't. They are part of a much broader problem.

The Surging Rise of Tent Cities in Canada - Cause and Effect

Welcome to the growing phenomenon sweeping our great white north: tent cities in Canada. Explore the reasons homelessness is growing together.

runfromcanada.com

Yes, they are the result of the growing divide between rich and poor.