Poilievre's Divisive Anti-Vaccine Policy Defeated

[Frankfooter]

With respect to their “support”. You call 2k/month for people that lost jobs and businesses support? For people they and “we” threw overboard support? While we collected paychecks in our PJs, watched our savings grow support? Personally I call that insulting. And just incase, I often often chuckle at Liberals that think I’m right wing. When clearly, I’m not.

Do you also call adding so much debt ( non Covid related) support?

Do you also call Canadas relative piss poor performance on many topics be it rising violent crime, Capital bleed, refugee/asylum crises support? I’m pretty sure on this last topic alone there’s a thread and people complaining about the cost to the 416..Do you call Canadas healthcare problems ( soon to get much much worse) or housing problems support?

Do you call Canadas debt to gdp, revenue per capita support? Do you call JTs train wreck ( a mirror image to McGuinty/Wynne) or his polling proof of that “support”?

Do you call the huge and alarming divides between East/West (specifically the gta), Rural/Urban, have and have nots ( the wealth gap which has grown faster than ever) see also food banks, home heating ( see his panicked freeze on Carbon taxes announced last week) support? As I’ve pointed out many times, “Liberals” talk good games about socioeconomic stuff but always throw people outside the gta and have nots under the bus.

With respect to dental care, and other social niceties. Do you just plan to make other people or your grandchildren pay. If so, it sure might help if Liberal supporters actually read various news on things that matter. Just because the “left” say it’s so, doesn’t make it so. And like Mike Harris after Rae, or Ford after McWynne, and now Pierre after JT.

You get the government you deserve.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/armstrong-economy-us-canada-stimulus-interest-rate-1.7016698

Posthaste: Outlook for Canadian dollar darkens in world of risks

Canadian dollar seen sinking toward 71 cents amid a looming recession and geopolitical turmoil. Read more

financialpost.com

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7017425

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Bank of Canada held rates over looming mortgage renewals: Macklem

Tiff Macklem told a Senate committee the neutral rate of interest is likely rising suggesting the bank's 5% rate could be too low. Read on.

financialpost.com

Canada’s economy faces $900-billion mortgage renewal shock

The biggest shock awaits variable-rate mortgages set to renew in 2026. A five-year variable mortgage renewing in October of that year would see payments jump 76 per cent if mortgage rates stayed around 6 per cent

www.theglobeandmail.com

And yet Canada's inflation rate is among the best of the G7, growth is good,

Lmao. Yep, you’ve read me right. Not.

You’ve obviously never heard of equalization and transfer payments. I also doubt you grasp debt to gdp or why immigration is so important ( see link about our economy without) I’m so right wing….You can’t even get that right.

.So much more I could respond to, but will try to keep it short. I can likely demonstrate that just by linking back to a couple post above I’m sure you have read.Also find it funny how often people will compare us to other countries when defending him/them, as if getting ribbons for participating counts for something. Me, I worry about Canada.. I could also point at all the threads about the US or Trump.

With respect to your last paragraph, quite obviously you struggle with some notions. One of which is blowing your wad and thinking sunny days last forever ( read your last paragraph ). Typical liberal you strike me as the type that would blow your wad on SPs then cry when you don’t have the money, for this or that or life happens and sunny days not lasting forever slaps you in the face. See so many threads here too about housing, healthcare, public service ( I’m so right wing) and liberals that whine about Ford, not grasping cause and effect.

See also Rae and McWynne. See you living in denial too. And in an effort to bring it back to vaccines or lockdowns. See how you threw less fortunate people under the bus, while you collected paychecks in your PJs and the wealth gap. …..see also inflation, food banks, real estate, rates etc..”good job” ( you sound way more right wing than I do) , you’ve crushed those you claim to champion. Me I “fight” for them. Thread after thread after thread. Liberals here, not so much unless you count money growing on trees.

No doubt like many, you don’t think you should pay your way or help dig out of the hole you have dug. You want others to pay for your wants. See the train wreck in Ontario, see Liberal supporters ( the GTA) ignoring so many warnings for years, or simply the asylum crises.

I might also mention, the way “you” disparage Truckers or anyone else ( like all those less fortunates ) getting on Pierre’s train. There are reasons for it, one being there’s more to Canada than just the self absorbed GTA ( about the only place they still have support) you just can’t accept be that the division in Canada, or getting governments you deserve. I might also ask you to explain his sudden reversals on home heating carbon taxes, or bail…Don’t let reality get in the way of denial.

That's a lot of bile yet nothing concrete.
List the policies that you think should change and why.

List the policies that PeePee supports that you think will be better for Canada.

 

[NotADcotor]

You do realize CDC is completely captured by big pharma? Same as WHO.
If you've been educated by government propaganda and "studies" from Pfizer....that explains your position.

If the CDC and the WHO was totally on big pharma's dick, they would ban all vaccines. Vaccines are not actually a bit money maker vs say having people in iron lungs all their lives from polio and dealing with all the complications that come from that. vaccines are not only effective unless you are a reality denying schmuck in which case they are still effective, you just refuse to accept it, they are also a very inexpensive way to deal with sickness.

 

[bver_hunter]

Lmao. Yep, you’ve read me right. Not.

You’ve obviously never heard of equalization and transfer payments. I also doubt you grasp debt to gdp or why immigration is so important ( see link about our economy without) I’m so right wing….You can’t even get that right.

.So much more I could respond to, but will try to keep it short. I can likely demonstrate that just by linking back to a couple post above I’m sure you have read.Also find it funny how often people will compare us to other countries when defending him/them, as if getting ribbons for participating counts for something. Me, I worry about Canada.. I could also point at all the threads about the US or Trump.

With respect to your last paragraph, quite obviously you struggle with some notions. One of which is blowing your wad and thinking sunny days last forever ( read your last paragraph ). Typical liberal you strike me as the type that would blow your wad on SPs then cry when you don’t have the money, for this or that or life happens and sunny days not lasting forever slaps you in the face. See so many threads here too about housing, healthcare, public service ( I’m so right wing) and liberals that whine about Ford, not grasping cause and effect.

See also Rae and McWynne. See you living in denial too. And in an effort to bring it back to vaccines or lockdowns. See how you threw less fortunate people under the bus, while you collected paychecks in your PJs and the wealth gap. …..see also inflation, food banks, real estate, rates etc..”good job” ( you sound way more right wing than I do) , you’ve crushed those you claim to champion. Me I “fight” for them. Thread after thread after thread. Liberals here, not so much unless you count money growing on trees.

No doubt like many, you don’t think you should pay your way or help dig out of the hole you have dug. You want others to pay for your wants. See the train wreck in Ontario, see Liberal supporters ( the GTA) ignoring so many warnings for years, or simply the asylum crises.

I might also mention, the way “you” disparage Truckers or anyone else ( like all those less fortunates ) getting on Pierre’s train. There are reasons for it, one being there’s more to Canada than just the self absorbed GTA ( about the only place they still have support) you just can’t accept be that the division in Canada, or getting governments you deserve. I might also ask you to explain his sudden reversals on home heating carbon taxes, or bail…Don’t let reality get in the way of denial.

You hate the facts and try to speak in riddles. Okay, since you do not want to compare Canada with other similar advanced nations then let us take a look at what Harper did during his long reign as PM. He inherited a healthy surplus from the Chretien / Martin Governments and turned it into a huge deficit:

Harper's government reported five straight budgetary deficits—$55.6 billion in FY 2009-2010 (-3.6% GDP), $33.4 billion in FY 2010-2011, $18.4 billion in FY 2012-2013, and $5.2 billion in FY 2013-2014. So, are you going to blast him in the same manner? Was Harper's money also growing on trees then?

You make me laugh when you speak in favour of the FreeDumb Convoy who took the Ottawa citizens as hostages for weeks, and it was nothing to do with their status as being "less fortunate"!! They were just being stubborn vaccine deniers who were not willing to be administered the vaccines during that Pandemic. They even blocked the flow of valuable trade between the USA and Canada causing harm to the Canadian Economy especially as there were huge issues with the Global Supply Chains during the Pandemic. Canadians were also missing out on valuable life threatening medications. The reversal of carbon taxes is just on home heating oil due to the price of it. Pee Pee just will moan and groan about every single aspect of this Liberal Government just like he did when the Government were trying to get Covid-19 vaccines for all Canadians. When the Liberals stated that they will get the vaccines for all Canadians by September 2021, Pee Pee disputed it and was falsely stating that the Government will not achieve that target. However, the Liberals obtained this target a month earlier and then the hypocrite called Poilievre was not willing to disclose which of his MPs were or were not taking advantage of it prior to resumption of Parliament. As I said this will all play out closer to election time.

 

[Frankfooter]

Conservative policy.

DoFo gives vaccine distribution to Shoppers, they now have a monopoly on a public service.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1722227512695210208

Meanwhile Smith has plans to cut all public healthcare in Alberta.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721984271659766052

 

[bver_hunter]

Libs of TikTok is an extreme Right Wing site that makes fake allegations against hospitals and other institutions, resulting in bomb threats against 20 hospitals addressing Gender Affirming Care. How can a person with any credibility follow such violent perpetrators?

When Libs of TikTok tweets, threats increasingly follow

When Libs of TikTok tweets, threats increasingly follow

The pattern – Libs of TikTok tweets, then a bomb threat arrives – is more pervasive than previously known. And it has ratcheted up in the past two months.

www.usatoday.com

No wonder that there were arrest against some despicable individuals who made these bomb threats at the behest of such violent sites!!

By the way this nutcase who costed Fox News Billions and is a racist has zero credibility when hosting the founder of Libs of TikTok, especially as they are fuelling death threats and violence against hospitals for children!!

 

[Not getting younger]

You hate the facts and try to speak in riddles. Okay, since you do not want to compare Canada with other similar advanced nations then let us take a look at what Harper did during his long reign as PM. He inherited a healthy surplus from the Chretien / Martin Governments and turned it into a huge deficit:

Harper's government reported five straight budgetary deficits—$55.6 billion in FY 2009-2010 (-3.6% GDP), $33.4 billion in FY 2010-2011, $18.4 billion in FY 2012-2013, and $5.2 billion in FY 2013-2014. So, are you going to blast him in the same manner? Was Harper's money also growing on trees then?

You make me laugh when you speak in favour of the FreeDumb Convoy who took the Ottawa citizens as hostages for weeks, and it was nothing to do with their status as being "less fortunate"!! They were just being stubborn vaccine deniers who were not willing to be administered the vaccines during that Pandemic. They even blocked the flow of valuable trade between the USA and Canada causing harm to the Canadian Economy especially as there were huge issues with the Global Supply Chains during the Pandemic. Canadians were also missing out on valuable life threatening medications. The reversal of carbon taxes is just on home heating oil due to the price of it. Pee Pee just will moan and groan about every single aspect of this Liberal Government just like he did when the Government were trying to get Covid-19 vaccines for all Canadians. When the Liberals stated that they will get the vaccines for all Canadians by September 2021, Pee Pee disputed it and was falsely stating that the Government will not achieve that target. However, the Liberals obtained this target a month earlier and then the hypocrite called Poilievre was not willing to disclose which of his MPs were or were not taking advantage of it prior to resumption of Parliament. As I said this will all play out closer to election time.

I dont want to speak in facts? Hats funny given “you guys“ never support much of anything with facts..or stats..Try reading the news once in awhile Bver, or some of the links above. Typical blind Liberal you are I guess. Not sure what Harper has to do with 2023, other than you deflecting. Are you implying the Liberals inherited a mess aka Harris and Ford and “you” guys not learning from history and then whining about what follows?

With respect to the “Freedumb” convoy. Thanks for helping illustrate why many people are getting on Pierre’s wagon. You die harder liberals just love disparaging people and creating division. So you woke and enlightened, you can’t even grasp that much. Not. You sure talk a good game though as with other topics.

With respect to our debt. You seem hooked on participation ribbons so Try some of these.

Russell Napier: Canada’s debt-to-GDP ratio is alarming. What happened the last time we were in this situation?

The U.S. total non-financial debt-to-GDP ratio was just 121 per cent in 1952. The current world total debt level is 266 per cent, writes Russell Napier.

www.thestar.com

Canadian Investors Shatter Records By Putting $115 Billion in Foreign Securities

Canadians are shunning their domestic market and investing record amounts abroad, according to National Bank of Canada Financial Markets.

www.bloomberg.com

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[bver_hunter]

I dont want to speak in facts? Hats funny given “you guys“ never support much of anything with facts..or stats..Try reading the news once in awhile Bver, or some of the links above. Typical blind Liberal you are I guess. Not sure what Harper has to do with 2023, other than you deflecting. Are you implying the Liberals inherited a mess aka Harris and Ford and “you” guys not learning from history and then whining about what follows?

With respect to the “Freedumb” convoy. Thanks for helping illustrate why many people are getting on Pierre’s wagon. You die harder liberals just love disparaging people and creating division. So you woke and enlightened, you can’t even grasp that much. Not. You sure talk a good game though as with other topics.

With respect to our debt. You seem hooked on participation ribbons so Try some of these.

Russell Napier: Canada’s debt-to-GDP ratio is alarming. What happened the last time we were in this situation?

The U.S. total non-financial debt-to-GDP ratio was just 121 per cent in 1952. The current world total debt level is 266 per cent, writes Russell Napier.

www.thestar.com

Canadian Investors Shatter Records By Putting $115 Billion in Foreign Securities

Canadians are shunning their domestic market and investing record amounts abroad, according to National Bank of Canada Financial Markets.

www.bloomberg.com

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You are now picking and choosing the Debt to GDP Ratio of the "Non-financial" sector and how the multinationals are investing in the USA Stock Markets etc.
Again I explained to you about how the Banks only lend money in Canada on a 5 year maximum basis compared to the USA at a 30 year period. That is why the Canadians are affected by the high raises in interest rates and not so for the USA homebuyers. Anyway your link in this respect was from two years ago as it was down to 206% in 2022 and expected to be even lower at the end of this fiscal year. Again when I posted the actual Financial Debt to GDP ratio, and how Canada is among the lowest of the G7 Nations, of course you try to deflect from it.

But you are a clown in the manner in which you threw these individual in the mix:

And like Mike Harris after Rae, or Ford after McWynne, and now Pierre after JT.

However, when I mention the previous Harper Government, now you call it a "deflection"....... Hilarious!! But you did not answer the questions about Harper and his contribution to the debt as he is a conservative PM!!

Well the Canadian Governments are not the only incumbent Government to have their popularity decline in the present day environment. We have seen that with the USA, UK and other advanced nations around the Globe. We will see how long this Pee Pee bandwagon lasts, as there is unlikely to be an election until the next two years. We have seen Pee Pee's recent Bill with regards to the Carbon Tax getting spanked even though the NDP backed it for different reasons. Globally the inflation is high, but Canada is amongst the lowest of the G7 Nations. A conservative Government like that in the UK is much higher than Canada. Real facts........ and not the pick and choose not getting younger facts!!

 

[bver_hunter]

We are seeing Pee Pee pandering to the extreme right hate mongers!!

Pierre Poilievre Under Fire After Video Surfaces of Homophobic and Transphobic Speech
Video shows Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre accusing Justin Trudeau of 'imposing radical gender ideology' on children

Pierre Poilievre Under Fire After Video Surfaces of Homophobic and Transphobic Speech

Video shows Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre accusing Justin Trudeau of 'imposing radical gender ideology' on children

pressprogress.ca

 

[bver_hunter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1722720272988455312

 

[bver_hunter]

Opinion: Pierre Poilievre must reject the transphobic policies his party has adopted

Doing the right thing on the resolutions that members approved at this weekend’s Conservative Party convention can also be a political win for the Tories

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Not getting younger]

You are now picking and choosing the Debt to GDP Ratio of the "Non-financial" sector and how the multinationals are investing in the USA Stock Markets etc.
Again I explained to you about how the Banks only lend money in Canada on a 5 year maximum basis compared to the USA at a 30 year period. That is why the Canadians are affected by the high raises in interest rates and not so for the USA homebuyers. Anyway your link in this respect was from two years ago as it was down to 206% in 2022 and expected to be even lower at the end of this fiscal year. Again when I posted the actual Financial Debt to GDP ratio, and how Canada is among the lowest of the G7 Nations, of course you try to deflect from it.

But you are a clown in the manner in which you threw these individual in the mix:



However, when I mention the previous Harper Government, now you call it a "deflection"....... Hilarious!! But you did not answer the questions about Harper and his contribution to the debt as he is a conservative PM!!

Well the Canadian Governments are not the only incumbent Government to have their popularity decline in the present day environment. We have seen that with the USA, UK and other advanced nations around the Globe. We will see how long this Pee Pee bandwagon lasts, as there is unlikely to be an election until the next two years. We have seen Pee Pee's recent Bill with regards to the Carbon Tax getting spanked even though the NDP backed it for different reasons. Globally the inflation is high, but Canada is amongst the lowest of the G7 Nations. A conservative Government like that in the UK is much higher than Canada. Real facts........ and not the pick and choose not getting younger facts!!

Harper. What part of this being 2023 so you not grasp. It’s nothing but deflection from the current admins record. Is that too hard for you to grasp?

Re the two links. They are but two more I’ve added to others. All related, you know the economy, finances. Or do you struggle to understand those things are related. What “facts” have you added………that shows or “argues” the current admin has done well.
/crickets. So about those facts you chirped about…..
Housing?
Those you threw under the bus?
Capital bleed and business investment?
The wealth gap?
The division/polarization
Violent crime?
Etc?

Popularity. Yep, they all get old. Something your struggling with on top of the division in the country ( and the reasons for it) as well.

 

[Not getting younger]

I see the troll poked his head out. What exactly do you find inaccurate Dinkle?

Have the balls to “dispute” anything listed? Have facts or anything to the contrary?

./add
Why don’t you try this one troll

Nearly two-thirds of Canadian respondents, or 63 per cent, said they are dissatisfied with the federal government led by Trudeau.

Tories hold lead over Liberals, Canadians report limited trust in institutions: poll

The Conservative party is maintaining a steady lead over Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberals, a new poll suggests, at a time when Canadians are reporting limited trust in their institutions.

beta.cp24.com

Not to your liking? Here’s another one, this from Nov ( last one in Oct) with even more liberals seeing the writing in the wall

If polling trends don't change for Liberals, expect more and louder voices for change in leadership, say political players

Senator Percy Downe has stated publicly what Liberals have been talking about privately since the 2021 election, say Liberal insiders. But pollster Frank Graves says the Liberals are experiencing regime fatigue and he's not so sure a change in leadership is the best way out. Graves suggests the...

www.hilltimes.com

The bits about division. East/west? Try this on for size

A detailed series of internal government polls obtained by Global News paints a picture of a government struggling to win approval from Canadians on just about any issue, while showing sharp regional differences when it comes to the top priorities voters want Ottawa to tackle.

or was it the bits about key election issues. From their own polling through the year and the privy council. Their own polls show they are abject failures.

A typical month might generate 70 or more different answers to that one open-ended question and yet from January to June the six most common responses were the same every month across every region: affordable housing, cost of living, the economy, environment and climate change, health care and inflation.

Trudeau government’s own polling program is saying it’s in trouble - National | Globalnews.ca

Nearly 24,000 were polled and a healthy majority gave the Trudeau government a failing grade for the way it was handling the economy, climate change and Indigenous issues.

globalnews.ca

So troll, got anything that disputes the above? Or are you just trolling more?

 

[roddermac]

/shrug
He might be wrong to oppose vaccine mandates. He’s not wrong about JT and the left denigrating people. On this topic or others.

Vaccine mandates are wrong. So he isn't.

 

[Frankfooter]

I see the troll poked his head out. What exactly do you find inaccurate Dinkle?

Have the balls to “dispute” anything listed? Have facts or anything to the contrary?

Congrats, ngy, your movement has helped kill 136,00 children this year.
Fucking antivaxxers.

'Staggering' rise in global measles cases last year, say leading health organizations
Cases up by 18% to about 9 million, and deaths to 136,000 — mostly among children

 

[bver_hunter]

Harper. What part of this being 2023 so you not grasp. It’s nothing but deflection from the current admins record. Is that too hard for you to grasp?

Do you call JTs train wreck ( a mirror image to McGuinty/Wynne) or his polling proof of that “support”?

Can you for once practice what you preach? If Harper thrown into the mix ruffles your feathers as it is not in "2023", then whyt on earth has "McGuinty / Wynne" got to do with the 2023 era?

Re the two links. They are but two more I’ve added to others. All related, you know the economy, finances. Or do you struggle to understand those things are related. What “facts” have you added………that shows or “argues” the current admin has done well.

Again every single G7 Nation is undergoing a high inflation and increasingly unaffordable circumstances in this day and age. Look at France and also the UK that has a Govt. more in line with the Conservatives policies. That nation is in a far worse state of affairs and the Govt is in deep crap in the polls. All these nations want change. Canada once again has one of the best Debt to GDP Ratio:

In 2023, Japan's government's net debt reached and estimated 159 percent of its total GDP. Italy had the second highest debt rate at 133 percent of its GDP, whereas Canada had the lowest at only 15 percent.

G7 debt to GDP 2023 | Statista

The GDP ratio in the G7 countries was highest in Japan, reaching nearly 160 percent.

www.statista.com

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So let's go with the real statistics rather than your POV!!

/crickets. So about those facts you chirped about…..
Housing?
Those you threw under the bus?
Capital bleed and business investment?
The wealth gap?
The division/polarization
Violent crime?
Etc?

Popularity. Yep, they all get old. Something your struggling with on top of the division in the country ( and the reasons for it) as well.

Total and utter waffling baloney!!

 

[Not getting younger]

Practise what I preach?
it’s called Newtons law. “Look it up”..

also

Can you for once practice what you preach? If Harper thrown into the mix ruffles your feathers as it is not in "2023", then whyt on earth has "McGuinty / Wynne" got to do with the 2023 era?

What you seem not to grasp is that Harper while he certainly had his faults, unlike McWynne didn’t leave a god awful mess for anyone that followed that has contend with.

In other words, as Ontarians we are still being severely affected ( points at Hydro, or healthcare or or so much) Or is that too hard to understand and hence why . or is that too hard to understand…..?

 

[squeezer]

Practise what I preach?
it’s called Newtons law. “Look it up”..

also


What you seem not to grasp is that Harper while he certainly had his faults, unlike McWynne didn’t leave a god awful mess for anyone that followed that has contend with.

In other words, as Ontarians we are still being severely affected ( points at Hydro, or healthcare or or so much) Or is that too hard to understand and hence why . or is that too hard to understand…..?

After producing a surplus in 2007-08 of $9.6 billion, the Harper government delivered a deficit of $5.8 billion in 2008-09 during the global recession.

In subsequent years, his Conservative governments generated shortfalls of $55.6 billion in 2009-10; $33.4 billion in 2010-11; $26.3 billion in 2011-12; $18.4 billion for 2012-13; and $5.2 billion for 2013-14.

To summarize, Harper-led governments ran a string of six straight deficits between 2008-09 and 2013-14.

But looking beyond 2013-14, the numbers have yet to be released, which means it’s difficult to predict the final results with absolute certainty.

To begin, let’s look at whether the government will even hit seven straight deficits.

Did Harper really run eight straight deficits like the NDP, Liberals claim? | Globalnews.ca

Since the start of the election campaign, Liberals and New Democrats have made repeated allegations that Harper's Conservatives delivered eight consecutive budgetary shortfalls. But is that true?

globalnews.ca

 

[bver_hunter]

Practise what I preach?
it’s called Newtons law. “Look it up”..

also


What you seem not to grasp is that Harper while he certainly had his faults, unlike McWynne didn’t leave a god awful mess for anyone that followed that has contend with.

In other words, as Ontarians we are still being severely affected ( points at Hydro, or healthcare or or so much) Or is that too hard to understand and hence why . or is that too hard to understand…..?

What has Newton's Gravitational Laws got to do with these politics? Sheesh....... goodness knows where you are going with this!!

Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Martin / Chretien Governments. He was the one who could not even fathom that he dragged Canada into a recession until push came to shove.
No wonder that he hid away from reporters and generally locked himself in a closet for his whole tenure in office. Ford has made the Healthcare and Senior Retirement Homes even worse resulting in a a huge mess and deaths during the Pandemic. Thankfully, in the end he listened to the guidance of the Federal Government in how to tackle the Pandemic. However, the Healthcare also declined under Ford, and goodness knows where he is steering the Ontario economy. The net debt has been rising under Ford, so he is no better than the Wynne Govt. including how he was trying to personally benefit from his very controversial development of Conservation Protected Land!!

 

[Not getting younger]

What has Newton's Gravitational Laws got to do with these politics? Sheesh....... goodness knows where you are going with this!!

Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Martin / Chretien Governments. He was the one who could not even fathom that he dragged Canada into a recession until push came to shove.
No wonder that he hid away from reporters and generally locked himself in a closet for his whole tenure in office. Ford has made the Healthcare and Senior Retirement Homes even worse resulting in a a huge mess and deaths during the Pandemic. Thankfully, in the end he listened to the guidance of the Federal Government in how to tackle the Pandemic. However, the Healthcare also declined under Ford, and goodness knows where he is steering the Ontario economy. The net debt has been rising under Ford, so he is no better than the Wynne Govt. including how he was trying to personally benefit from his very controversial development of Conservation Protected Land!!

re first, may have misread something.

Harper inherited a decent position and he passed one on. Maybe that’s why neither he nor Chrétien are considered train wrecks by objective people. As for dragging Canada into a recession what the hell are you talking about. You might be the only person in the world that thinks that. Btw you’re doing a piss poor job of deflecting from Trudeaus record. But that is what dyed in the wool people do isn’t it?

 

[bver_hunter]

re first, may have misread something.

Harper inherited a decent position and he passed one on. Maybe that’s why neither he nor Chrétien are considered train wrecks by objective people. As for dragging Canada into a recession what the hell are you talking about. You might be the only person in the world that thinks that. Btw you’re doing a piss poor job of deflecting from Trudeaus record. But that is what dyed in the wool people do isn’t it?

No Harper did not pass on a booming economy. His rash closures of several Government agencies including those institutions for the veterans was in a panic mode to BS everyone that he had finally "balanced" the budget, but at a cost to Canadians where the unemployment was high and businesses took huge hits. But Ohhhhhhh.....now what the hell am I talking about? What the hell do you think is going on globally, with the supply chain disruptions along with oil and food prices at record levels?

Read the links I provided with respect the Canada's comparison with other G7 nations with respect to the Debt to GDP percentages!! Obviously, you are not aware that the social media barely existed against the present day level, when Chretien and later Harper were in power. The MAGA dogma has rubbed on to a substantial number of Canadians who are not getting the true comparison of Canada vs G7 nations as far as the economy is concerned. Trudeau has done a great job in obtaining the vaccines in spite of Canada's ability to manufacture it's own thanks to the Mulroney conservative Government selling off the Connaught Labs. Yet Mr Pee Pee was moaning and groaning about the Canadians not being put ahead of the queue with these vaccines. We know the record of Canadians whose lives were saved when these vaccines were available, only for Pee Pee to march with the vaccine deniers. Trudeau had the backs of the Canadians who were laid off during the Pandemic at least with the CERB benefits. Yet of course Pee Pee opposed it. The number of jobs created were at record levels after the Pandemic, so much so that many businesses were desperately looking for staff as there was a shortage of them. Inflation has of course been a global phenomenon at present. Yet our inflation is lower than most G7 Nations including a right wing UK Government, where the British are really livid about their records. So tell us where Canada lacks behind other G7 Nations?