There is revenue sharing in the NHL but not to the extend of MLB.
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2013/6/7/4406482/2013-nhl-cba-revenue-sharing-program-explained
Phaneuf traded to Sens !! Wow!!
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http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2013/6/7/4406482/2013-nhl-cba-revenue-sharing-program-explained
What's the point of getting a better player right now (who will hurt you later) when you still suck? Win the race for ninth place or maybe get the last playoff spot?
Presumably when you hope to be really competitive in 3 to 4 years, you will be a budget team stuck with an immovable contract.
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maurice I am not saying this is going to work but Ottawa is using a different game plan for the rebuild of the team then Toronto. I did not know that Phaneuf was only 30 at the end of this deal he will be 35 he might still be playing at a good level. I like what Toronto is doing this year with the young prospects in the minors and the big club trying to bottom out but you never know how things will work out look at Edmonton.
The Luxury Tax and revenue sharing in MLB are 2 different issues. The total luxury tax bill was $73mln last year (Yanks were good for $26mln) does not go directly to equalizing economic reality amongst the teams. As per the article ..."tax money is used to fund player benefits and MLB's Industry Growth Fund."
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...luxury-tax-most-major-league-baseball-history
On the other hand, revenue sharing (not related to payroll) is where the smaller revenue teams get a boost from a share of pooled revenues like the national tv deals and net local revenue. As the national tv deals have exploded in value, the cheque received from revenue sharing has as well and some teams can fund their entire payoll in a given year from it.
It's not a slap in the face because neither team is a threat to accomplish anything, especially Toronto. The adage that you don't trade players to division rivals is based on the assumption that you don't want the player to come back and hurt you. I have a feeling Phaneuf playing for Ottawa won't hurt the Leafs playoff chances.
When Dion joined the Leafs at age 24 (more or less) some people thought he might still have some upside. However, at age 30, he will likely never get any better than he is right now.
Agreed. But what's really scary is that it only took one bad Leafs manager--Dave Nonis--to shackle them with all three of these horrible contracts--Clarkson, Kessel and Phaneuf. Oh, and he signed Tyler Bozak to a multi year huge contract....
Nonis was a one man wrecking crew, yet he's gotten a pretty easy pass from the local sports press.
He didn't apply for the job. Burke had been gradually building them to the point of making the playoffs, but instead of building upon the on ice success MLSE fired him because his style wasn't corporate enough. Nonis just happened to be there.
Having said that, yeah, he sucked. I recall posting anti-Nonis comments after they fired Burke. I said the same thing would happen that did in Vancouver. Bingo.
Guys if you look around the NHL every team as bad contracts. I never liked the Kessel signing because I do not like the work ethic and attitude. Phaneuf should of never been named captain plus the overpaid. I liked Clarkson in NJ and I thought Toronto paid to much but I never imagined he would be the flop he turned out to be. The 3 guys you got for Ottawa problem contracts for them. Michaluk is a good teammate and plays the game right but injured all the time and I think as lost a step. The way I see it if Toronto signs Stamkos for 11-12 million and makes him captain it will be a problem down the road. I have watched a few Tampa games this year and Stamkos looks a little off. Maybe he just wants out now.
Leafs get rid of the Phaneuf contract and be free from the Cowen and Greening contracts at the end of next season(summer 2017).
Ottawa has Dion until summer '21.
Damn Mo, that is smashing the nail right on the head. I could not agree more.
I really have no idea what Ottawa was thinking. I had to see the deal on this screen, slowly read it, to be clear it was the Leafs getting the draft pick rather then giving it up.
Burke built one playoff team in an illegitimate 48 game season. It was his core that fell apart in 2014 and 2015. I can't believe there are many Leaf fans that think they would be better off with Burke, Kessel and Phaneuf moving forward.
It hurts me a bit to see Toronto doing everything right since end of last season. They have stuck to their plan this time, and moved on from players that I think were proving they were getting the team nowhere.
Of course the key is in 3/4 years where the cap will became an issue again, and you need to worry more about building assets into a team. But it is all good so far and they appear to have the proper staff for it.
The team is acting with a clear vision.
Let's be clear that I am a Habs fan as well. I don't like the Leafs or Sens. I have no bias as all 3 teams are going nowhere right now. I do prefer the Habs plan of doing nothing right now than the Sens plan of adding an older player with long term deal when they also clearly suck.
Let's start with facts or assumptions:
1. The Senators are 8 points out of a playoff spot. They are 7 spots away from the worst team in the league.
2. I think a fair assumption is that Dion will be close to worth it for 3 years / and a legit NHL D but vastly overpaid for 3 years.
3. The Sens I assume aim to be in a contender in about 3 yrear. And in 3 years they will still be a budget team. I hope they have no visions of the Stanley Cup over the next 2 years based on their current standing.
There is a clear conflict between 2 and 3. But let's also consider a few other points shall we:
- The Sens are a budget team, but they are only spending about 6 million less than the cap . Murray wasted a great deal of the Budget this year on players like Michalak, Greening, Cowen, Phillips, Weircoch and overpaying for players like Neil, Zach Smith, Pageau and Bobby Ryan. It is not Eugene's budget that hurt them this year -- it was that Murray wasted many of the resources granted to him.
- The CAD dollar is hurting the Sens. As is their stinky play which is impacting attendance.
- Melnyk likes this deal because it saves him a few million dollars this year and next. Once 2017/2018 starts. he will just ask the GM to cut some better more tradeable conracts to fit in Dion's contract.
It's pretty clear the deal is a horrible proposition for the Senators, with one of the main positives being that Melnyk saved a few million dollars immediately. Where are they planning to go this year and next?
I disagree anytime somebody brings up this point.
Sure the season was shortened but all of those 48 games were in the division. They were all against teams that were in direct competition for the same playoff spots.
If the Leafs didn't play any games against the stronger west, well neither did their division rivals. Actually it was an extremely fair assessment of where they stood in the division that year and it was basically Burke's team.
Maurice you just named about half the Sens team as overpaid. Salaries in the NHL these days are crazy but almost every team as players making big bucks who will score ten maybe 15 goals. In terms of rebuilding plans I think the Sens are trying to win at the same time. To me right now Toronto as the best plan for future success. We do not know how all there prospects will turn out but lots of dead weight as been traded and the team as salary flexibility.
Agree. They also let Burke go too soon as he had this team on the right path and had unfinished business. BUT with that said, i am fully on board with the new management and how they are going about their business.
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