Yes "the tube" is a nickname but that wasn't the point. Point is the "underground" the "tube" are subways. You can call them whatever you want.You are hilarious!! The "Tube" is a nickname of "Underground" in the UK. Normally in the conversation they refer to it as The Tube. But officially it is known as the Underground.
I have no issue with the construction of new subway lines. Of course Ford wants the Federal Govt. to finance it. However, the ones complaining are mainly those who will be affected by the construction of the infrastructure............. the drivers of the cars. LOL!! There will be several road closures as well as detours for these drivers for years:
The dangers are that with no bike lanes, several bikers then ride on the sidewalks. It has been a concern for pedestrians to have these cyclists sharing the side walks. Driving in Downtown Toronto is quite a challenge even when there are no bike lanes on some of those streets. You have the streetcars also to contend with. Get stuck in the intersection and you are slammed with a fine of at least $450. Well I cannot blame those who prefer. to use their bikes rather than getting stuck in the traffic. After all there are those delivering packages, food from restaurants, including Uber Eats etc. What do you say to them? Lots of landlords charge additional parking fees for those renting condos Downtown. Others who own their condos also have to pay additional Parking Fees. Bikes are here to stay. Suck up to it!!
Bike lanes, like the residential recycling program, are failed experiments that were allowed to linger too long as "feel good" programs, and now politicians don't want to dare cancel them because it would be an admittance of failure.Cyclists have been biking around Toronto for 100 years before the current council built bike lanes out of car lanes. But it's not only bike lanes. The current council simply takes roads away from drivers. Palmerston Ave in Little Italy was the best non main road route to get from Bloor to Wellington and I used it for 30 years. 2 years ago city council made it "one way" and changed the direction every few blocks to make it unusable to motorists. There's no purpose to them doing this aside from telling motorists to go fuck themselves. The same attitude that Annie and Frankie show throughout these threads. The actual bike lane on Palmerston is just a small fraction of the - largely undriveable - road surface.
It's hard to believe London is only 25% more dense. Compare Don Mills to any part of London.
Downtown Toronto is comparable to London and Leaside is comparable to Croydon or Streatham - what Londoners think of as "suburbs".
What was your point in this respect in the first place?Yes "the tube" is a nickname but that wasn't the point. Point is the "underground" the "tube" are subways. You can call them whatever you want.
When Rob Ford wanted to build subways, Toronto council voted against it. Did you support Ford wanting to build subways over LRT's back then? btw LRT construction also affects traffic. Just look at Eglinton, St. Clair, etc. I would argue subway construction causes less because the majority of the work is underground.
Bike lanes don't make sense outside a small portion of downtown. Fine to get around in short distances. But what the city has done is put them everywhere, and in some places they are hardly used. That's the insanity.
The majority of people can't ride bikes everywhere so why are we appeasing a few to inconvenience many?
As if to say that there was no such thing as The Underground........LOL!! So why were you questioning it........can you explain?You mean London has subways?
Now I am fully aware of The Tube. Except that in the context of their conversation The Tube is normally referred to the Subway trains.Ok so you come back with your wisdom-filled knowledge about what Londoners refer to subways as? Doesn't "subway" imply it's in a tunnel underground for the most part?
btw Londoners refer to their underground/subway as "the tube".
Is that completely true, partially true or wholly false?When Rob Ford wanted to build subways, Toronto council voted against it.
The simpleton's guide to building rapid transit:Did you support Ford wanting to build subways over LRT's back then?
Yesh, just look at this chaos for a decade and more from construction of the underground subway from Black Creek to Laird.btw LRT construction also affects traffic. Just look at Eglinton, St. Clair, etc. I would argue subway construction causes less because the majority of the work is underground.
I asked if London has subways, to highlight the point that subways should have been and should be built in the GTA. You missed the sarcasm there. I'll try to keep thing simple for you in the future!What was your point in this respect in the first place?
As if to say that there was no such thing as The Underground........LOL!! So why were you questioning it........can you explain?
When I stated that the Subways were referred to as The Underground in London, that is when you came up with this:
Now I am fully aware of The Tube. Except that in the context of their conversation The Tube is normally referred to the Subway trains.
Such as "I am going to catch The Tube"!!
I had no issue with building more Subways. But the point is that this stupid Tunnel between Brampton and Scarborough is for cars. Makes no sense in spending over 80 Billion for this project.
Bike lanes also serve a purpose. Again as I mentioned, a lot of residents downtown depend on bikes deliveries for their food and other items.
Their safety is definitely a cause for concern!!
I agree, we should have let Ford build subways a decade + ago.The simpleton's guide to building rapid transit:
"Hey, do you guys want a subway or a trolley over there?"
Oh you want stuff built without any disruption and would rather build nothing so that you can complain about having nothing in the future.Yesh, just look at this chaos for a decade and more from construction of the underground subway from Black Creek to Laird.
Look at the mayhem and chaos being caused from construction of the underground subway south of the Danforth, Queen St, downtown, University Ave and much, much more chaos and congestion coming soon to a street near you.
The denizens along the Eglinton corridor would forcefully disagree with your premise.
Not sure if you were born yet or maybe in pre-school but it was voted down many times over the years and those stops were the only ones approved for replacing the old scar borough LRT.Is that completely true, partially true or wholly false?
I kinda remember Frances Nutsiata breaking city council rules to allow Ford to proceed with his 2 station $3.5billion subway proposal.
Tell us what ya really know without relying on "search".
The proposed tunnel will also include public transit.
As I thought, without "search", clueless.but it was voted down many times over the years and those stops were the only ones approved for replacing the old scar borough LRT.
So based on your response, you have read the official proposal and feasibility study?
Fark!
Can't make this shit up!!
The above quoted statement has just, just gotta, just gotta be the most laughably ludicrous post of the year on TERB and within the GTA.
And what makes it such, such a knee-slapper of hokum is that Thug's target audience, his hardcore culture vultures, the rubes, hayseeds and yokels swallowed his bullshit lock, stock and reeking, stinking barrel and actually believe him!
So you wanted me to tell you what I already know "without relying on search"...I did. Now you're saying I didn't "search"As I thought, without "search", clueless.
Further, how about converting some of the empty office towers to housing rather than telling people to rent out rooms in their homes as a means to fix the problem like Chow suggested?6. Let those who can continue to work from home most of the time.
I take the Martin Goodman trail to work. Almost 20 km. Everyday. I pass lots of bikers, scooters and joggers everyday. On weekends it can be packed.Yes "the tube" is a nickname but that wasn't the point. Point is the "underground" the "tube" are subways. You can call them whatever you want.
When Rob Ford wanted to build subways, Toronto council voted against it. Did you support Ford wanting to build subways over LRT's back then? btw LRT construction also affects traffic. Just look at Eglinton, St. Clair, etc. I would argue subway construction causes less because the majority of the work is underground.
Bike lanes don't make sense outside a small portion of downtown. Fine to get around in short distances. But what the city has done is put them everywhere, and in some places they are hardly used. That's the insanity.
The majority of people can't ride bikes everywhere so why are we appeasing a few to inconvenience many?
You're joking again:So based on your response, you have read the official proposal and feasibility study?
Or are you just making biased assumptions and looking like a fool again?
Tunnels work...
https://www.infrastructureontario.c.../go-rail-expansion---highway-401-rail-tunnel/
Annie, calm down.
Fark!
Can't make this shit up!!
The above quoted statement has just, just gotta, just gotta be the most laughably ludicrous post of the year on TERB and within the GTA.
And what makes it such, such a knee-slapper of hokum is that Thug's target audience, his hardcore culture vultures, the rubes, hayseeds and yokels swallowed his bullshit lock, stock and reeking, stinking barrel and actually believe him!
A significant portion of that trail has not removed road lanes in order for it to exist.I take the Martin Goodman trail to work. Almost 20 km. Everyday. I pass lots of bikers, scooters and joggers everyday. On weekends it can be packed.
And as e-vehicles usage continues to rise(it works great) it's only going to get more busy.