People Starting to Refuse Moderna

TeeJay

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Once again the people have spoken
Despite assurances all vaccines are created equal (bullshit) its getting so bad that media is trying to run stories about how you should take whatever jab they happen to load in a syringe for you
Speaks volumes doesnt it

 

Male4Strapon

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“some individuals have “walked away” from appointments after being told that they would receive a different shot than they did for their first dose.”

I would understand if you said some doctors or virology experts are suggesting people walk away but some random people walked away and that’s evidence of ineffective vaccines?
Not sure if you read the article in its entirety but the opinion that matters said of these people: “That's the equivalent of saying that you won't fly with an airline because it's not your preferred airline that has seats off an island that is sinking. You'd rather wait for the next available seat on your preferred airline, which could be weeks away,” Peel’s Medical Officer of Health Dr. Lawrence Loh said during a briefing on Wednesday morning. “I cannot say this clearly enough. Please take whatever you are offered.”

the only thing it speaks volumes to is that too many people think they know better than experts who actually study and work on this.
 

Male4Strapon

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Moderna had covid vaccines in 2019 and have ties to the Wuhan lab
The vaccine has been in development since at least the SARS outbreak in early 2000’s as Covid is a SARS virus. So even if what you say is true, it’s entirely plausible that Moderna did have vaccines in 2019.
 

squeezer

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Once again the people have spoken
Despite assurances all vaccines are created equal (bullshit) its getting so bad that media is trying to run stories about how you should take whatever jab they happen to load in a syringe for you
Speaks volumes doesnt it

Moderna had covid vaccines in 2019 and have ties to the Wuhan lab
Two twats sitting in a bowl battling hard to be the winner of the delusional award.

ps....I feel awesome with my mixed cocktail!
 

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Just finished reading a New Yorker magazine article posted online today saying that Delta variant is a disaster coming down the tracks for the unvaccinated, and those people who have only received one vaccine dose are not well protected.

There are parts of the world where a much smaller percentage of their population has been vaccinated, and another wave is heading their way soon, including those US states that have fully opened while a large portion of their population has refused to get vaccinated.
 
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Just finished reading a New Yorker magazine article posted online today saying that Delta variant is a disaster coming down the tracks for the unvaccinated, and those people who have only received one vaccine dose are not well protected.

There are parts of the world where a much smaller percentage of their population has been vaccinated, and another wave is heading their way soon, including those US states that have fully opened while a large portion of their population has refused to get vaccinated.
This is why it would be prudent for the government to remove COVID OHIP privileges from the unwashed. It's very expensive to treat these super self-proclaimed geniuses for weeks and weeks in ICU. I need to run for Prime Minister so I can make them pay!!!!!
 
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shack

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This is why it would be prudent for the government to remove COVID OHIP privileges from the unwashed.
That would be so very appropriate, but we know it ain't gonna happen. We are too kind, to even the willingly ignorant among us.
 

squeezer

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That would be so very appropriate, but we know it ain't gonna happen. We are too kind, to even the willingly ignorant among us.
We have to get Justin to join this forum and have him read the Amigo's posts. It wouldn't take long to convince him to pull their OHIP cards.
 
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PeteOsborne

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This is why it would be prudent for the government to remove COVID OHIP privileges from the unwashed. It's very expensive to treat these super self-proclaimed geniuses for weeks and weeks in ICU. I need to run for Prime Minister so I can make them pay!!!!!
You mean Premier don't you?
 

squeezer

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You mean Premier don't you?
You're right Premier but my first choice would be Prime Minister and then I'd strong-arm Doug to do my bidding. I'd have an escort seduce him and blackmail him to do exactly as I say.

Hey, if TJ and crew can live in a fantasy world, let me have the same pleasure!!!!!
 

lenny2

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Once again the people have spoken
Despite assurances all vaccines are created equal (bullshit) its getting so bad that media is trying to run stories about how you should take whatever jab they happen to load in a syringe for you
Speaks volumes doesnt it

"At a briefing earlier on Wednesday morning, Toronto’s vaccine task force chair Matthew Pegg said that the total number of people who are declining a vaccine after arriving for an appointment is “very, very low” and is not having a significant impact on the number of shots being administered."

I haven't heard of any need in Canada to offer incentives for people to get the vaccine, except in Alberta.

Elsewhere the people seeking jabs may be filling up the available appointments quickly.

So, being in BC, why shouldn't i let other people go first.

[Especially as i am at very low risk re myself in my Bat Cave or to others outside of it.

Or could have already been infected & not know it. Which would give me substantial immunity in itself.]

Then i can wait to get my vaccine of choice for shot #2, namely Pisser.

After all, moreover, what scientific studies have been done saying mixing Pisser and Madonna is safe.

And having first shot protection already, isn't there evidence that delaying may be better (see quotes from article below)?

Also, if i wait for incentives, i could get a shot at a big lotto winner, lol.

Convince me otherwise ;

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"What we found was that they were underestimating the efficacy of the first dose, and rather than the efficacy being 52 per cent, it was actually 92 per cent," she said. "For us, that was a game changer."

"... NACI says its decision to delay second doses is based on emerging real-world data from Quebec, B.C., Israel, the U.K. and the U.S. that showed "good effectiveness" of between 70 and 80 per cent from a single dose of the vaccines "for up to two months in some studies."

"... "It's shown us really good vaccine effectiveness two months after receipt of the first dose and that the effectiveness isn't decreasing over time," Dr. Shelley Deeks, vice-chair of NACI and a lead author of the recommendations, said in an interview.

"... Skowronski says once good protection is established, it doesn't suddenly disappear or "fall off a cliff." Instead, protection against a disease wanes gradually after a vaccination, which buys researchers time to "re-evaluate the optimal timing of the second dose."

"She said that longer intervals between a first and a second dose of a vaccine are generally preferred because shorter intervals can interfere with the immune boost response and longer intervals are often associated with ultimately higher antibody levels.

"Alyson Kelvin, an assistant professor at Dalhousie University in Halifax and virologist at the Canadian Center for Vaccinology, says the clinical trials on COVID-19 vaccines ran with the shortest time frame possible so they could get data out quickly, but previous studies on other vaccines show longer intervals are generally better.

"... "The only reason to go with a shorter interval is if you don't get good protection with the first dose, and a second dose administered sooner could top it up a lot," Skowronski said.

"That's a scenario that we are not dealing with here. We're getting excellent protection after the first dose, and we have a clear and present danger threat now with ongoing elevated pandemic disease risk on top of that scarcity of vaccine supply."


"First-dose vaccine numbers in British Columbia have risen to above 75 per cent of the eligible population, with second-shot totals hovering near 25 per cent.


I wonder if BC is about to reach "herd immunity".
 
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basketcase

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Sadly for TJ, the people refusing aren't doing it to reject vaccines but rather because they want a different mRNA vaccine.
 
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TeeJay

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Just finished reading a New Yorker magazine article posted online today saying that Delta variant is a disaster coming down the tracks for the unvaccinated
*Yawns*

SERIOUSLY?
We hear this nonsense like every 60 days

This new strain of virus will surely be deadly and kill all people under 20 and not just geriatricsaurus yada yada yada

You do understand the models have been so provably incorrect at every turn noone can say things that with a straight face anymore?
 

xmontrealer

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*Yawns*

SERIOUSLY?
We hear this nonsense like every 60 days

This new strain of virus will surely be deadly and kill all people under 20 and not just geriatricsaurus yada yada yada

You do understand the models have been so provably incorrect at every turn noone can say things that with a straight face anymore?
Hope you're right...
 
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squeezer

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You do understand the models have been so provably incorrect at every turn noone can say things that with a straight face anymore?
Wow, still after you've been proven wrong in every single bullshit assumption you vomit out, you continue to spit out nonsense and bullshit. You must look like an anorexic at this point.


Hope you're right...

Don't ever put your faith in anything TJ has to offer, you do at your own peril. You are better off listening to a barking dog actually. LMAO
 
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