Just flew domestically last week and will be returning early tomorrow morning. Going through check in and security was no issue (no delays that I have not encountered before - many people on staff). I did have to wait an extra 20 minutes once on the plane before taking off but again I have encountered longer delays in pre pandemic times and at numerous airports throughout the world, including their domestic flights. I am hoping my trip home is at least as good.
Pearson YYZ in huge delays again
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What? It's almost like you think that Pearson being one of the most expensive airports anywhere would mean that they provide good service.
Pearson is the responsibility of the federal government, now you know why it’s so screwed up.
I suspect, I repeat suspect, that security in the airport is contracted out to some private sector company. That company may or may not have gotten fucked during Covid when GTAA told them that due to reduced volumes, they didn't need so many staff. So they laid them off. It could be that the company provides staff as requested by the GTAA. All well and good when it's situation normal.
But when they laid off half their people, it became impossible to get them back a year and a half later (and who could blame the staff for finding other jobs).
Now they can't find people period, and certainly not at the wage they were paying pre covid.
Now here's the part in almost sure of....
Said private company has gone to the GTAA and said, we need to attract more people by paying a higher salary (which is true) and Mr. GTAA you need to pay more. (Now how do you think that went over with the GTAA?). That's right, the GTAA has told said contractor, "that's your problem, read your contract"
I'm guessing again that the security folks at YYZ aren't making that great of a salary. (I have no idea how much they make, but Im going to guess very low 20s an hour.). They probably need to pay 30 an hour now to attract people. But the GTAA won't pay a dime more other than what is specified in the contract so the short staffing will continue.
The only solution I see is that the GTAA cracks and pays them more to attract more people and tacks the cost on to the fees they charge airlines. I will certainly pay 20 bucks more a flight if it means I don't have to sit in the airport for 4 hours.
If I've learned one thing over the years, it's that money cures all problems.
But when they laid off half their people, it became impossible to get them back a year and a half later (and who could blame the staff for finding other jobs).
Now they can't find people period, and certainly not at the wage they were paying pre covid.
Now here's the part in almost sure of....
Said private company has gone to the GTAA and said, we need to attract more people by paying a higher salary (which is true) and Mr. GTAA you need to pay more. (Now how do you think that went over with the GTAA?). That's right, the GTAA has told said contractor, "that's your problem, read your contract"
I'm guessing again that the security folks at YYZ aren't making that great of a salary. (I have no idea how much they make, but Im going to guess very low 20s an hour.). They probably need to pay 30 an hour now to attract people. But the GTAA won't pay a dime more other than what is specified in the contract so the short staffing will continue.
The only solution I see is that the GTAA cracks and pays them more to attract more people and tacks the cost on to the fees they charge airlines. I will certainly pay 20 bucks more a flight if it means I don't have to sit in the airport for 4 hours.
If I've learned one thing over the years, it's that money cures all problems.
Air Canada cancelled 10% of their flights as well.
www.theglobeandmail.com
Air Canada cancels almost 10% of Toronto flights over seven days as staffing crunch, passenger surge hit Pearson airport
Canada’s biggest carrier cancelled about 360 flights at Toronto Pearson airport in the first seven days of the month, split equally between arrivals and departures
www.theglobeandmail.com
I was going to suggest Hamilton but that's even more of a shit-show of a long delay. Fly to Calgary, then a 4 hour layover and then a turbo prop to Saskatoon. 9.5 hours. Flight schedules have really changed. I remember 15 years ago doing a quarterly fly-out to Calgary from Hamilton and there were flights that did Hamilton -> Winnipeg -> Saskatoon -> Calgary.
Well, returned this morning from another Canadian city. Flight left on time and arrived at Pearson within a couple of minutes of the scheduled time (faster). Luggage pickup was about 5 minutes longer than I would have liked. Best of all my ride was waiting for me outside. So overall, not the bad experience that others have had.
You may be on to something. My worst experiences at YYZ have all been on international flights including flights from USA.
I see Canada is going to suspend random Covid testing but only for the month of June. Then restart on July 1 in an off site facility.
What a fucking joke.
The US is suspending pre departure testing for International travelers starting this Sunday.
What a fucking joke.
The US is suspending pre departure testing for International travelers starting this Sunday.
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Akila Besos
I work at the airport and it's brutal for us
Ppl constantly calling in sick and being understaffed. Really adds alot of stress on us workers.
The amount of yelling and foul language I get called daily to the face is starting to get ridiculous. Ppl think we can control everything but we don't. Plus flights get cancelled or delayed for so many reasons that are just unfortunate for everyone involved
Ppl constantly calling in sick and being understaffed. Really adds alot of stress on us workers.
The amount of yelling and foul language I get called daily to the face is starting to get ridiculous. Ppl think we can control everything but we don't. Plus flights get cancelled or delayed for so many reasons that are just unfortunate for everyone involved
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Akila Besos
Hopefully but we won't know till all the problems get fixed with the PM approval
Still waiting for any mention of Deborah Flint. Or any scrutiny directed her way.
Glad to have someone there speaking up. First of all thank you! Feel for you. 100% support and respect.
1) how understaff you think you guys are? Yeah after Covid I feel everyone is calling in sick as if they’re entitled. I work in education, the teachers are covid’ing like musical chair. But overall I feel its more because they not able (or willing) to hire back all the staff #greed. True?
2) Is Covid protocol and testing really the culprit? Will stop testing and stop req proof like they started a day ago really help the situation?
3) flying to US on a Saturday morning 9am flight, when should I be in airport? 5am? Just regular passport no nexus.
