Did I say small stores? I specifically said I don't care for corporations that reap record breaking profits. Of course I care about small business being impacted. And families.
Organized Retail Theft
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Businesses that profit from smart decisions are a fantastic success story.
Businesses that profit because prices are so high that people start to go hungry... that's a problem.
The system is broken. Working full time should afford people a home, food, and enough left over to go on a nice vacation once in a while. The economy is so fucked that corporations have record profits while people working full time AND having a side hustle can barely afford rent, let alone food, let alone anything else. So, it's not your problem vs my problem. It's needing to fix the whole damn system. And if the biggest corporations with record setting profits have slightly lower profits because someone stole from them? Don't give a shit one bit.
Businesses that profit because prices are so high that people start to go hungry... that's a problem.
The system is broken. Working full time should afford people a home, food, and enough left over to go on a nice vacation once in a while. The economy is so fucked that corporations have record profits while people working full time AND having a side hustle can barely afford rent, let alone food, let alone anything else. So, it's not your problem vs my problem. It's needing to fix the whole damn system. And if the biggest corporations with record setting profits have slightly lower profits because someone stole from them? Don't give a shit one bit.
Understood. But I do.
So my point stands: I don't care about this happening to large, wildly profitable corporations.
And I do care about this happening to small stores.
Your criticism of my comment was that you interpreted my comment to not care about it happening to small stores either. I do. I addressed your complaint.
So my point stands: I don't care about this happening to large, wildly profitable corporations.
And I do care about this happening to small stores.
Your criticism of my comment was that you interpreted my comment to not care about it happening to small stores either. I do. I addressed your complaint.
No, I didn't interpret your comment to mean you don't care about it happening to small stores.
My critique is that if you think it's okay for it to happen to corporate stores, you are also giving criminals a green light to hit small stores, too. Because they don't make distinctions between the two.
You have to come down hard on criminals when they hit big stores just as you do for small stores. If you let them get away with one, you have chaos and crime everywhere.
Your arbitrary fiction of big versus small stores also makes you a potential target. If you have a home and the robber doesn't, he thinks that YOU deserve to be robbed. Having more than the robber makes you a bad person. Forget about the work you had to put in to get where you are in life.
That's the intuitive response. And that's the mindset of most governments. But it's the wrong response and here's why.
Fighting crime and being tough on criminals feels good because it's The Good Guys vs The Bad Guys like all the media we've been trained on since childhood. But think about it. Why spend time, money, and resources tracking down criminals that already committed crimes when you could combat the root cause of crime in the first place? It's cheaper to prevent a crime than to let it happen and then hunt them down after and repair the damage.
Other jurisdictions realized this and discovered it's cheaper to combat the root cause of crime to prevent it happening in the first place. It's cheaper AND it lowers the crime rate more than just putting more money into cops and enforcement and jails and "coming down hard" on criminals.
And the root causes of most crime, according to study after study after study:
Poverty, addiction, and lack of access to mental health support.
Feed the poor. Help people get off drugs. And let people get diagnosed and treated for mental health issues. Do these three things and most crime disappears. It's cheaper than increasing police budgets. It lowers crime more than "coming down hard" on criminals. It's cheaper AND more effective. This isn't some woke bullshit either. It's proven by other jurisdictions. And I want it done here too.
Western governments have gotten softer on crime over time, not tougher on crime.
One root cause of organized retail theft is lowlifes prioritizing fashion and material goods over anything else.
What jurisdictions are these? Are they in North America and/or culturally diverse nations?
Organized retail theft isn't most crimes.
Every person involved in organized retail theft is athletic or obese. Lack of food is not the issue.
We're failing at that but not due to lack of trying: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/leslieville-drug-injection-site.830134/
You mean sedate people by putting them on mind altering drugs. We really have no good ways to deal with mental health issues.
Sounds like a pipe dream. Ironically this approach is partly how we got here.
Where?
Places like Hungary, Poland, Japan, and Dubai don't count.
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What would any city, any province/state any country look like with zero law enforcement/justice…….
Id really rather not rehash a lot, so you will have “trust” that for the past 10 years. Violent crime here is up noticeably. Gun crimes notably 25%
In the US there’s no increase. Other than what might be attributed to population growth. Even when looked at on a per capita basis, our rate Is significantly higher than many of their cities
While there’s room for improvement here, we already pour tons of money into socioeconomic stuff where they don’t. Aka what you want…But what they do do, we don’t. Aka tough on crime.
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So when your favorite corporate stores like target, walmart and costco close down because of rampant theft....what do you think is gonna happen? these conglomerates don't operate at a loss. they will simply take their business elsewhere....and what's left in a town where theft becomes rampant? since it's ok to steal from the big guys....
It's one thing to have police presence. It's another thing to allow police to even do their job.
How can anyone make the argument that being "hard on crime" doesn't work when we live in a world where criminals have never been treated more softly?
How can anyone make the argument that being "hard on crime" doesn't work when we live in a world where criminals have never been treated more softly?
It sounds like you're talking about big business.....................and trump.
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I'm not talking about people, I'm talking about a system that allows bad actors to thrive.
When I was young I was broke, no one gave 2 fucks about me. I'm not broke anymore however I do remember how I was treated.
Companies are not in business to be your friend and supporter, they're in business to make $$$ for the shareholders, eg landlords are NOT your pals. Get over it.
Ok! Ever try to collect from an insurance company? Based on your statement, I think not.
