Oops Robby did it again!

[oldjones]

All AK-47 is saying is that he'd prefer it if The Toronto Star had opinions like The Toronto Sun and National Post..

That's literally his entire point...

What a waste of energy! Who cares what opinion a media out let has? Your own opinion, and the opinions of other readers are what matters. Read the media for their facts.

Noting that since the start ofRob's campaign and through the year since the Crack Video, the Star's never been found wrong on facts, while Rob has been proven consistently wrong, and often proven to have lied. Much like AK, slinging words like embezzler without knowing their meaning or having any evidence to support the charge.

He should be worried about his own unfounded opinions. The Star has facts to back theirs.

 

[MattRoxx]

Go Tory!

Yeah right. Is it even possible to get a straight understable answer from Tory? Hey John what about bike lanes.

“My priority from day one as mayor is going to be to … keep traffic moving in this city, and I am in favour of making opportunities available for cyclists to get around the city too, because that will help, in its own way, to get traffic moving, too. But I want to look at the results of discussions that are going on today and other days and make sure that whatever we do, we are not putting additional obstructions in the way of people getting around in this city … “

Does Tory even want this job?!

'Kinda, sorta, maybe bike lanes, if car drivers are okay with them, I guess I could take a look and try to figure out what my opinion should be to get some votes.'

 

[MattRoxx]

Hahahahaha

from Sun News:

A Freedom of Information request filed by QMI Agency for the Internet histories of all staff in the mayor's office including Ford between May 1, 2013, and August 6, 2013, turned up nothing for the mayor himself.

Ford does have a computer on his office desk but he wasn't using it last year in the midst of the start of his crack cocaine scandal.

"Please be advised that there were no records of Internet activity related to Mayor Ford's user ID," city staff told QMI in response to the FOI request.

Coun. Doug Ford — the mayor's campaign manager — explained the mayor's lack of online activity.

He doesn't go on the Internet," Ford said Thursday. "He doesn't turn on a computer. He's just not into it."

Along with being incompetent, alcoholic, crack addicted, LGBT hating, sexist, racist, asshole - Ford is computer illiterate. Of course Doug has also said he's never seen Rob take a drink, so...

As I've said before, at 45 years old he's unemployable for any job that would require a resume. It's either politics or Deco Labels, and his brothers sure don't want him fucking up the family business.

 

[Butler1000]

Yeah right. Is it even possible to get a straight understable answer from Tory? Hey John what about bike lanes.

Does Tory even want this job?!

'Kinda, sorta, maybe bike lanes, if car drivers are okay with them, I guess I could take a look and try to figure out what my opinion should be to get some votes.'

I see.......

So taking a reasoned approach to bike lanes, looking to see where they would best fit in and at the same time not overly impede car traffic is a bad thing....

The example being the plan to add them to richmond and adelade. Good idea because with a slight narrowing of the lanes one can be added to create a smooth crosstown run each way. Riders can then break off where they need to in the core.

Bad idea was the jarvis ones where an important centre lane was removed impeding the flow badly. Better on sherbourne.

Its called finding compromise and not going off half cocked. Something sorely missing at city hall these days. Chow is divisive. Tory is not.

And it is my hope that more and more will see this as the campaign continues. Sorry he doesnt have an exact map of what goes where on this near to your heart issue. Does Chow? Sodnacki? I think not. I'd more more worried about Chow and how she will slowly lose ground once the provincial election is over. Ford is done. And votes are slowly moving over. The poll that shows a lot who will never vote Ford or Chow is telling. I think it was in the 40-45% that won't vote for her. Guess where a lot of those votes will go to keep her out.

And if Hudak gets in, who would be better to deal with him? My Vote goes to Tory.

 

[MattRoxx]

I see.......

So taking a reasoned approach to bike lanes, looking to see where they would best fit in and at the same time not overly impede car traffic is a bad thing....

The example being the plan to add them to richmond and adelade. Good idea because with a slight narrowing of the lanes one can be added to create a smooth crosstown run each way. Riders can then break off where they need to in the core.

Bad idea was the jarvis ones where an important centre lane was removed impeding the flow badly. Better on sherbourne.

Its called finding compromise and not going off half cocked. Something sorely missing at city hall these days. Chow is divisive. Tory is not.

And it is my hope that more and more will see this as the campaign continues. Sorry he doesnt have an exact map of what goes where on this near to your heart issue. Does Chow? Sodnacki? I think not. I'd more more worried about Chow and how she will slowly lose ground once the provincial election is over. Ford is done. And votes are slowly moving over. The poll that shows a lot who will never vote Ford or Chow is telling. I think it was in the 40-45% that won't vote for her. Guess where a lot of those votes will go to keep her out.

And if Hudak gets in, who would be better to deal with him? My Vote goes to Tory.

The reasoned approach to bike lanes has already been taken! Tory needs to get up to speed on these matters before opening his mouth. He has no interest in biking and obviously has no clue about what has been going on in Toronto w/r/t bike lanes.
Yes I'm being harsh on Tory, and maybe Mr. Wishy Washy will be an okay mayor, I mean he would almost certainly be an improvement over the current guy!

But back to Rob and his brother, the Worst.Campaign Manger. Ever.
Really put his foot in it this time. It's like Rob and Doug are in a competition to see who can be the most elitist, bigoted dipshit.

The brother of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford is being chastised on social media for reportedly saying a residential home for developmentally disabled youth has "ruined" a neighbourhood.

Coun. Doug Ford's comments have triggered an angry response on Twitter, with people including former Ontario premier Bob Rae blasting the Toronto city councillor.

The community newspaper the Etobicoke Guardian reported on Friday that Ford's office organized a public meeting on Thursday concerning the facility run by the Griffin Centre, described as a non-profit multi-service mental health agency.

The paper reported that some residents in Toronto's west-end complained about the facility's presence in their midst and that they weren't given sufficient advance warning.

Ford, whose ward is in the west-end, is quoted as saying it was unacceptable to have emergency vehicles parked on the street outside the home and that the home should be relocated.

"You’ve ruined the community,” Ford is quoted by the Guardian as telling the facility's staff.

“You can’t destroy a community like this. People have worked 30 years for their home...My heart goes out to kids with autism. But no one told me they’d be leaving the house. If it comes down to it, I’ll buy the house myself and resell it.”

Of course, most of what Doug sells is complete bullshit. He can't buy a house that isn't for sale.

The published comments attributed to Ford have drawn condemnation on Twitter, including Rae who weighed in with a tweet on Saturday.

"This is the opposite of leadership on mental health. Doug Ford should be ashamed of himself - hurting not helping," Rae tweeted.

Doug Ford did not immediately respond to an email asking for comment.

No shit Doug Ford did not immediately respond....he's probably waiting to talk to Joe Warmington to figure out how they can put a positive spin on this latest debacle.

 

[Butler1000]

Actually the Jarvis lane wasn't a reasoned approach. It was a bad idea. Even Minnan-Wong, an advocate of bike lanes said as much. Its as much about timing as anything. The transit needs to be built to get the cars aff the roads to make it safer. No point removing lanes, causing further issues for the # of bikes vs the # of cars. And all of the attendant road wars that will ensue.

I just don't think the european model is best re: above ground transit. The New York model is a better fit for us. And that is underground. Do you think this city built the PATH because people hate sunshine? No. They built it because people hate the cold. And thats over 6 months a year(include bad weather).

New york owes a debt to the planners who built their system. That is the path we should follow.

 

[fuji]

Here is the reasoned approach to transportation in Toronto:

1. Charge tolls on single passenger, non commercial vehicles on all expressways and highways

2. Upgrade more streetcar lines like St Clair

3. Promote bike share, subsidize it, and extend it through the city

4. Promote car share services like zipcar and autoshare by reserving prime parking spots for free car share parking, allowing them on the toll roads, and in the HOV lanes, and encouraging car share companies to locate vehicles at all TTC and Go stations

5. Put separated bike lanes on all major streets

6. Allow taxi companies to offer commercial jitney service on any route of their choosing and exempt them from tolls, create jitney stops for their use at all TTC and GO stations

7. Merge TTC, GO, YRT, MiWay, etc., into a single transit authority with a single pass system. Use GO rail lines for intracity travel to take load off the YUS subway line

No more gridlock.

 

[MattRoxx]

Good ideas. Israel has a type of jitney vehicles called sheruts and they're very convenient.

It's almost inevitable that Toronto will set up some kind of tolls to pay for the Gardiner and other big road infrastructure although I don't know how the specifics will be applied

Also I've seen some road ragey motorists argue for bike licensing. As a bike commuter I'm actually in favour of it and think it would be fair, even though the money would be a drop in the overall transportation bucket. It would be great value to pay annual $60 BRT and get separated lanes along Bloor/Danforth.
And maybe a suspended bike path or two

http://imgur.com/FdMalAQ

 

[oldjones]

Treating bikeways, congestion-pricing\tolls, vehicle sharing (bikes or cars), and taxis all as different forms and adjuncts of transit would be a huge step in the right direction. A city needs transit, it does not need private cars, no matter how much individuals may desire and prefer them. Like fancy restaurants, they're luxuries; having enough to ea, and being able to get around are necessities.

I'd suggest also bringing parking control in the public realm under the transit planning umbrella. Stationery vehicles clog streets, and low-cost parking encourages inefficient use of expensive roadways that we don't have enough of already. Like congestion charges, parking rates should be set to increase traffic flow and discourage traffic volume.

 

[MattRoxx]

Sometimes I ride subway to work in Scarborough. But yesterday I took the Yonge train northbound around 4:00 and it was PACKED. So I can see how everyone who has actually studied the matter agrees that the DRL should be higher priority than Ford's Scarborough subway billion dollar boondoggle.

ps This mayor is a trainwreck even in rehab. Seems he met a woman while there and traded his Escalade for a Hummer.

 

[Butler1000]

Sometimes I ride subway to work in Scarborough. But yesterday I took the Yonge train northbound around 4:00 and it was PACKED. So I can see how everyone who has actually studied the matter agrees that the DRL should be higher priority than Ford's Scarborough subway billion dollar boondoggle.

ps This mayor is a trainwreck even in rehab. Seems he met a woman while there and traded his Escalade for a Hummer.

A large portion of those people are actually going to scarborough. Look at the YorkMills express bus, the Sheppard express, and the Finch and Steeles east Express bus numbers sometime. People travel all the way form the end of the lines to the subway line. Add in the Three new stops with local buses north of Sheppard to the end stop and it will alleviate some of that pressure. Add a few Markham buses that go there as well.

The DRL will only redirect some of the Traffic from Union to Bloor. Unless they built it up to the North end. Funny how those three new stops will accomplish that no?

 

[oldjones]

A large portion of those people are actually going to scarborough. Look at the YorkMills express bus, the Sheppard express, and the Finch and Steeles east Express bus numbers sometime. People travel all the way form the end of the lines to the subway line. Add in the Three new stops with local buses north of Sheppard to the end stop and it will alleviate some of that pressure. Add a few Markham buses that go there as well.

The DRL will only redirect some of the Traffic from Union to Bloor. Unless they built it up to the North end. Funny how those three new stops will accomplish that no?

Only if those DRL riders changed trains at Pape, jammed themselves onto the eastbound train, then transferred back to westbound buses in deepest Scarbro to get back to Don Mills where they live.

If we encouraged good planning instead of electing pols that ignore it and cut the professionals to keep our taxes down, the Overlea Bridge over the Don woulda been built with a train deck like the one RC Harris put into the Bloor viaduct back in the 20's. He also laid out the DRL, back then, but we keep electing guys who call planning ahead a useless waste and City Hall gravy.

There's lotsa places where more riders would make better use of a few kilometres of subway than Rob's Scarburrow, but his voters don't live there.

 

[Butler1000]

Only if those DRL riders changed trains at Pape, jammed themselves onto the eastbound train, then transferred back to westbound buses in deepest Scarbro to get back to Don Mills where they live.

If we encouraged good planning instead of electing pols that ignore it and cut the professionals to keep our taxes down, the Overlea Bridge over the Don woulda been built with a train deck like the one RC Harris put into the Bloor viaduct back in the 20's. He also laid out the DRL, back then, but we keep electing guys who call planning ahead a useless waste and City Hall gravy.

There's lotsa places where more riders would make better use of a few kilometres of subway than Rob's Scarburrow, but his voters don't live there.

All those express buses stop picking up at Vic Park actually. A lot will take the short hop back to ride the train. Or go south to the bloor line.

And I would prefer the DRL continue past Bloor to Sheppard as well. Run it up the Don Valley on a raised platform with stops starting at egligton if the enginneering is possible.

Either way you take a lot of strain off the yonge line. Both would do it quite well.

 

[oldjones]

All those express buses stop picking up at Vic Park actually. A lot will take the short hop back to ride the train. Or go south to the bloor line.

And I would prefer the DRL continue past Bloor to Sheppard as well. Run it up the Don Valley on a raised platform with stops starting at egligton if the enginneering is possible.

Either way you take a lot of strain off the yonge line. Both would do it quite well.

Please no. We've fucked up that river valley too much already. If we have to have ugly cars, trains and their right of ways to get around let's keep them as hidden as possible and preserve what little bits of the real world in the City we haven't destroyed already.

Point is no matter how much the Scarburrow may be desired, it comes at an unnecessarily inflated cost to serve only a few. It's a wasteful extravagance.

 

[Butler1000]

Please no. We've fucked up that river valley too much already. If we have to have ugly cars, trains and their right of ways to get around let's keep them as hidden as possible and preserve what little bits of the real world in the City we haven't destroyed already.

Point is no matter how much the Scarburrow may be desired, it comes at an unnecessarily inflated cost to serve only a few. It's a wasteful extravagance.

Hey just a thought. I'm happy to see it underground all the way to Don Mills station.

 

[oldjones]

Hey just a thought. I'm happy to see it underground all the way to Don Mills station.

Step2 of 12: Now find the inner happiness and peace that comes from admitting you/we will have to pay for that. No Magic Gravy in our lives any more.

 

[Butler1000]

Step2 of 12: Now find the inner happiness and peace that comes from admitting you/we will have to pay for that. No Magic Gravy in our lives any more.

Lol I know. I'm the guy who said raise my property taxes by 10% as long as its directed to subways. And want to make it a federal election issue in this town.

 

[MattRoxx]

How do we get IMG CODE turned on in this thread!

A large portion of those people are actually going to scarborough. Look at the YorkMills express bus, the Sheppard express, and the Finch and Steeles east Express bus numbers sometime. People travel all the way form the end of the lines to the subway line. Add in the Three new stops with local buses north of Sheppard to the end stop and it will alleviate some of that pressure. Add a few Markham buses that go there as well.

The DRL will only redirect some of the Traffic from Union to Bloor. Unless they built it up to the North end. Funny how those three new stops will accomplish that no?

Ignorance + arrogance. Once again you show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Toronto voters see downtown relief line as top transit priority: poll

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-v...f-line-as-top-transit-priority-poll-1.1782882

Downtown Relief Line a ‘priority’ over Scarborough subway, TTC head Andy Byford says
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...scarborough-subway-ttc-head-andy-byford-says/

Scarborough subway would ramp up need for downtown relief line: Byford
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/1...-ramp-up-need-for-downtown-relief-line-byford

So that will increase your voluntary tax increase to 15 or 20 percent. But it will never happen anyway, the Scarb Subway debt will never be paid off and make financing any further subway construction a huge financial problem.

Meanwhile the permanently judgement-impaired biggest proponent of the Scarb subway is doing zero campaigning, and even in rehab demonstrates that rules don't apply to him. And his lunatic campaign manager has decided to start a fight with 3 autistic teenagers.

For good transpo news, Chow's a well known cycling proponent. And now Soknacki says he'll speed up bike lane expansion plans.

 

[MattRoxx]

I see.......

So taking a reasoned approach to bike lanes, looking to see where they would best fit in and at the same time not overly impede car traffic is a bad thing....

And if Hudak gets in, who would be better to deal with him? My Vote goes to Tory.

Tory was 30 minutes late getting to the mayoral debate yesterday, he must really be courting FN voters!
As for bike lanes, he made his real 'approach' clear yesterday.

Toronto’s politicians rally for better bike infrastructure but John Tory a curious no-showhttp://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...o-show/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

A postcard-perfect May Monday morning in Toronto began with a major feel-good photo op: Bike to Work Day. With three elections taking place simultaneously, Nathan Phillips Square filled with (mostly) fair-weather cyclists seeking election or re-election.

Cyclist city councillors included Glen de Baeremaeker, Janet Davis, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mike Layton, Joe Mihevc, Mary-Margaret McMahon and Karen Stintz. Adam Vaughan, now a federal candidate in Trinity-Spadina, rode in, along with Glen Murray, running for re-election provincially in Toronto Centre-Rosedale.

Mayoral candidates Olivia Chow and David Soknacki joined the aforementioned Ms. Stintz at the event. (Soknacki came by car; his campaign said he is a committed cyclist who rode from his home in Scarborough to his business in Markham for six months last year).

Conspicuous in his absence was John Tory, another candidate for mayor, who has been unable to give any straight answers on cycling matters so far in this election. (A reporter asked him recently whether he supports bike lanes on Richmond and Adelaide Streets, yes or no; his 100 word response did not answer the question).
...
The sheer quantity of cyclists on Toronto’s roads these days is quite dramatic. Riding in on the College Street bike path Monday, I saw more cyclists than ever before: we rode two abreast at University Avenue. Bikes far outnumbered cars.

In the square, Jared Kolb, head of Cycle Toronto, handed us a flyer: his group wants a minimum grid of 100 kilometres of protected bike lanes on main streets by 2018. I asked him how many kilometres we have now. He smiled.

“Just two. On Sherbourne.”

 

[Butler1000]

Run the "Bike to work day" in Febuary. See how many show.........

You can just as easily organize a "run to work day" as well........

But like I said I agree with a certain about of lanes like Adelade and Richmond where they make sense.

Thankfully Tory has I believe larger and more looming priorities on his mind.