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Ontario woman launches petition targeting 911 Amber Alert complainers

doggystyle99

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First of all I believe the system has some issues that they need to fix. But letting people opt out should not and will not be one of them because that would make the system pointless.
Just how miserable of a human being are you that you need to complain about getting an Amber alert to police.
FFS if it was someone you know that this happened to you would want anyone and everyone knowing about it just in case someone has seen the victim or the suspect. And to the comments regarding getting alerts in areas that are far away, there are Helicopters and Airplane charters that could be used to cover further distances in a short period of time.

BTW I put my phone on silent when I sleep I still get the alerts on the phone but it does not wake me up, try doing that if you don't want your sleep interrupted.
The people who are complaining are self absorbed and lack empathy.
 

doggystyle99

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The problem is very few inconsiderate people are going to start getting so annoyed and/or so desensitized to it because of all the misused amber alerts, that it will negate the system and What it is need for. Some natural disaster will happen and no one will be paying attention to the system anymore when they hear it. .
I fixed your post.
But honestly if some inhumane and inconsiderate people can not understand the need for getting an Amber alerts then I am glad they ignore getting alerts during a natural disaster. Remember life works out in mysterious ways and dirtbags always get what they deserve.
 
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VIPhunter

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First of all I believe the system has some issues that they need to fix. But letting people opt out should not and will not be one of them because that would make the system pointless.
Just how miserable of a human being are you that you need to complain about getting an Amber alert to police.
FFS if it was someone you know that this happened to you would want anyone and everyone knowing about it just in case someone has seen the victim or the suspect. And to the comments regarding getting alerts in areas that are far away, there are Helicopters and Airplane charters that could be used to cover further distances in a short period of time.

BTW I put my phone on silent when I sleep I still get the alerts on the phone but it does not wake me up, try doing that if you don't want your sleep interrupted.
The people who are complaining are self absorbed and lack empathy.
You are incorrect sir.

Apparently most of you think the Amber Alert is a good idea, and will not be switching your phones off. Therefore the system will not be pointless.

Not miserable at all. My beef is with the CRTC and the fact the Federal Government ignores it's own rules regarding 'do not call' lists. I would, sir like to be treated as an adult.

Of course I would panic if my loved one was kidnapped. But as Jess has pointed out, much of the alert business is custody disputes gone wrong. In fact it is these miserable people who should figure out a way to co-parent their kid without involving all of the Ontario Citizenry.

I can not put my phone on silent for a number of reasons as mentioned before. It has NOTHING to do with Self Absorption or lack of empathy, it's purely work obligations and parental obligations. I'd dearly love to silence my damn phone.

Helicopter and Airplane Charters? To kidnapp a kid? You ought to be writing for Hollywood.
 

doggystyle99

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I would like to know that too. What is it exactly that I'm suppose to do at 3:00 am with as vague information as possible in those alerts. Also I think the last alert was given after the kid was found already so please lets have some common sense before we make it a routine wake up call for everybody!
The alert is used so that people who are out at 3 AM could report if they see the victim and the suspect.
 

Insidious Von

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I don't mind Amber Alerts, I'd like to know what's going on. Sometimes it comes in on my home theater before routing to my cell. When that happens it comes in like the 1812 Overture.

Like I said, I want to be kept informed...so why am I getting them in French?
 

TeeJay

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The 9-1-1 dispatchers have nothing to do with issuing, controlling, or sending the alerts. Like calling Canada Post to complain about your newspaper boy. Eventually, some police force will have enough of it and start charging people for it. All calling 9-1-1 does to complain is demonstrate what an uneducated selfish rube the caller is. Like I said, if you go to the local fire station, they will give you a colouring book and crayons to help you learn what 9-1-1 is for.
Irrelevant "how much" they take
Charge you with what genius?

In order to charge you, they would need to introduce a law and have said law passed
Many people would be afraid to support such a law for the backlash and potential loss of a seat

It won't happen although it is funny how so many of you pucker up around police officers and phantom arrests
 

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Irrelevant "how much" they take
Charge you with what genius?

In order to charge you, they would need to introduce a law and have said law passed
Many people would be afraid to support such a law for the backlash and potential loss of a seat

It won't happen although it is funny how so many of you pucker up around police officers and phantom arrests
All calling 9-1-1 does to complain is demonstrate what an uneducated selfish rube the caller is...Now we don't have to wait for you to call.

Oh, the laws and penalties already exist.

" Misuse of 911 In addition to risking the safety of people who may need emergency assistance, the deliberate misuse of 911 is a criminal offence that is punishable by fines and/or imprisonment. As mentioned earlier, all 911 calls are taped and the location where they originate is readily identifiable.3 days ago
911 Emergency - Chatham-Kent Police Service"
https://ckpolice.com/911-emergency/
 

apoptygma

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The problem is people are going to start getting so annoyed and/or so desensitized to it because of all the misused amber alerts, that it will negate the system and What it is need for. Some natural disaster will happen and no one will be paying attention to the system anymore when they hear it. .
Then I am probably not alone in not having a problem if they ignore the natural disaster warnings and get injured or killed.
Natural selection has adapted to exploit technology!
 

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Of course you guys would happy to see people die. Doesn't surprise me.

These are people who are not complaining to police, not complaining to anyone. Just rolling over and seeing it used for custody battles all the time so after a while they just stop looking. And you all want to see them dead so you can puff out your chest and say See!!!!! I told you!!!

Instead of doing something smart like taking another look at the system to better it for everyone. This is an emergency system, not a custody battle system. Which is what this system has been turned into at the moment.

TERB make so much sense sometimes.
 

VIPhunter

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Then I am probably not alone in not having a problem if they ignore the natural disaster warnings and get injured or killed.
Natural selection has adapted to exploit technology!

Well, I usually have the radio on, (when I'm awake), so no, I'm not worried.

There is the TV, and those big Highway signs too.
 

TeeJay

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" Misuse of 911 In addition to risking the safety of people who may need emergency assistance, the deliberate misuse of 911 is a criminal offence that is punishable by fines and/or imprisonment. As mentioned earlier, all 911 calls are taped and the location where they originate is readily identifiable.3 days ago
911 Emergency - Chatham-Kent Police Service"
https://ckpolice.com/911-emergency/
LMBO

Good thing none of us live in Chatham-Kent then
They threaten all types of nonsense without any legal teeth (see bottom of this post)

Either way the part you skipped over is MISUSE
Unless you have an actual link to some sort of crime the term "misuse" is not anywhere in Criminal Code so therefore any threats of prison are nonsense



Actual Calls to Chatham-Kent Police Force (noone ever arrested)

1. A resident called 911 asking for the local KFC's number.
2. A woman called the emergency line to complain that all her TV channels were in French, but she's not French.
3. Police were called to seattle an argument between two neighbours over a jar of peanut butter.
4. Someone called the emergency line to ask who delivers the London Free Press in certain neighbourhoods.
5. After posting a photo on social media, a resident asked police if they could assist him in lowering the temperature in his apartment.
6. A woman call 911 and asked if it was legal for her to trap squirrels that were in her back yard and take them to a nearby farmer’s field.
7. A woman posted on Facebook that ‘he’s trying to kill me.’ Her friends were concerned and they ended up calling the police because they were unable to reach her. The woman was located and completely fine but she had to explain herself to the officers. She posted ‘he’s trying to kill me,’ in reference to the toxic gas in the room after her husband farted.
8. A caller reported to 911 that his wife's purse had been stolen, but the call taker did not note down the word 'purse.' This led to "a lot of concern" for those who read it and believed the man's wife had been stolen over an hour ago.
9. An individual broke into his neighbour's apartment and found him standing with a baseball bat. He lost his boot when he fled the scene - and guess what he did? Sent his girlfriend back to get it.
10. Police arrived at a scene after a phone call was made about a commercial break in. During the foot chase, the man tossed pink urinal cakes. He later explained that he used the urinal cakes to play hockey with.

Chantham-Kent Police also released a list which included the most ridiculous speeding excuses:

I have something wrong with my battery and I was trying to charge it fast.
I just washed my truck and I was trying to dry it off.
I was practicing my lines for a play and must have been pushing on the gas pedal.
The speedometer is in mph and that’s why I was going 80 mph.
I am just keeping up with traffic (there was no other traffic around)
I had to pass the truck because it pulled out in front of me (no truck around)
I have a vibration in the car when driving at high speeds and I was trying to figure out what it was.
What 60km/h zone?
This is an old car, there’s no way I could have been going that fast.
I’m not in a hurry, just late for an appointment.
 

TeeJay

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Here is another great link from Peel Police
https://twitter.com/PeelPoliceMedia/status/1152730114347753472

It’s hot outside which means the ice cream trucks will probably be out. If the ice cream truck stops in front of your house & is there for a bit due to all the children, it’s still not a reason to call 9-1-1 to complain. If you have a complaint about ice cream trucks, call 3-1-1.

Or the best (worst) 911 calls of the year (2018)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-call-centre-reveals-silliest-911-calls-of-2018-1.4232369

1. To complain a local fast food restaurant wasn’t open 24-hours-a-day, as advertised
2. To complain a store won’t take shoes back without the original box
3. To complain that a gas station attendant put the wrong type of gas in their car
4. To report a rental company provided the wrong-sized vehicle for a customer’s reservation
5. To report a restaurant wouldn’t redeem a customer’s coupon
6. To ask for help turning off their car lights
7. To report their vehicle’s windshield wipers had stopped working
8. To find out where their car had been towed
9. To report a lost jacket
10. To ask if the clocks move forward or backward during the spring time change


Seriously is there anyone who actually believes you could even get a fine from abusing the 911 system?
Anyone?

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...s-misuse-of-911-system-by-peel-residents.html
It found that of the 430,111 total 911 calls made last year, 182,208 — or 42 per cent— were deemed “inappropriate.”


That people is why the term CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is applied
Even if there was a law (there isn't although some people are trying to use Mischief any lawyer worth his salt would get you off) the sheer numbers outweigh any possibility of convicting everyone
You have a better chance to go to prison for pirating MP3s lol
 

kugel2

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Here is another great link from Peel Police
https://twitter.com/PeelPoliceMedia/status/1152730114347753472

It’s hot outside which means the ice cream trucks will probably be out. If the ice cream truck stops in front of your house & is there for a bit due to all the children, it’s still not a reason to call 9-1-1 to complain. If you have a complaint about ice cream trucks, call 3-1-1.

Or the best (worst) 911 calls of the year (2018)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-call-centre-reveals-silliest-911-calls-of-2018-1.4232369

1. To complain a local fast food restaurant wasn’t open 24-hours-a-day, as advertised
2. To complain a store won’t take shoes back without the original box
3. To complain that a gas station attendant put the wrong type of gas in their car
4. To report a rental company provided the wrong-sized vehicle for a customer’s reservation
5. To report a restaurant wouldn’t redeem a customer’s coupon
6. To ask for help turning off their car lights
7. To report their vehicle’s windshield wipers had stopped working
8. To find out where their car had been towed
9. To report a lost jacket
10. To ask if the clocks move forward or backward during the spring time change


Seriously is there anyone who actually believes you could even get a fine from abusing the 911 system?
Anyone?

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...s-misuse-of-911-system-by-peel-residents.html
It found that of the 430,111 total 911 calls made last year, 182,208 — or 42 per cent— were deemed “inappropriate.”


That people is why the term CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is applied
Even if there was a law (there isn't although some people are trying to use Mischief any lawyer worth his salt would get you off) the sheer numbers outweigh any possibility of convicting everyone
You have a better chance to go to prison for pirating MP3s lol
Calling 9-1-1 to complain about an amber alert makes as much sense and displays the same level of intelligence as jumping up and down on the roof of a cop car when your favourite team wins a championship.
 

TeeJay

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Calling 9-1-1 to complain about an amber alert makes as much sense and displays the same level of intelligence as jumping up and down on the roof of a cop car when your favourite team wins a championship.
Makes about as much sense as your claims there are laws in place; any links for a newspaper story or better yet a conviction?

To the best of my knowledge Alberta is the only province with any kind of legislation about false 911 calls (and courts have proved that they had no teeth whatsoever)
 

apoptygma

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Makes about as much sense as your claims there are laws in place; any links for a newspaper story or better yet a conviction?

To the best of my knowledge Alberta is the only province with any kind of legislation about false 911 calls (and courts have proved that they had no teeth whatsoever)
Laws or not... there is one certainty: Your little "civil disobedience" exercise is not only pathetic and childish, but embarrassing for yourself and all who subscribe to the practice of 'complaining' to 911 as if it is going to make a difference.
It would be interesting to see how proud you would be of your civil disobedience in a room full of intelligent adults. Would you brag about it so much? Or would you (more likely) be the one in the corner looking down at their shoes?
Keyboard courage, I suspect.
 
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