New york crime rate dropped the same reason it dropped everywhere in the US, abortion, aging population and economic growth.
Correct. There were bigger drops in the crime rate in the 1990's in the years BEFORE New York implements its tough gun control measures. The crime rate had been dropping consistently BEFORE the measures went into place, and it has continued to drop since then--but the biggest drops in crime happened in the earlier years.
And you have proof that gun policy in New York has had any impact on crime? You have the same information I have, and you've presented no more detailed argument. You've said, "oh look, crime went down in New York, it must be because of gun policy" but you have NO PROOF of that, and I've given you a more credible explanation--my explanation is better, because yours cannot possibly explain how crime went down before the law came into effect, when the biggest drops occurred.
Of course you will, you'll take any piece of nonsense you agree with, no matter how unable to explain the facts it is--facts like the larger drops in crime that occurred before it went into effect.
This is more or less true, but in New York "economic growth" took on a different dimension than it did in most places. As the price of real estate in New York shot through the roof, developers bought people out of low income housing and slums, and rebuilt it into pricey housing for rich people. This forced the poor out of the city, and as the poor left the city, crime dropped. It turns out that a stock broker earning $800k per year is much less likely to commit violent crime than an unemployed highschool dropout (though you could argue that Bernie Madoff did more harm).
Sorry but it's not. If it were, it would be a prohibited weapon in Canada, by Order in Council. And trust me, if the RCMP were able to make that declaration they would. As it stands anyone with a PAL for restricted firearms can mail order an AR-15 from any of the gun dealers in Canada--and they almost all stock it. The RCMP must have concluded that the modification can only be performed by someone with the skills of a gun smith, using metalworking tools. In other words, beyond the capability of the typical private gun owner.
I'll believe Bloomberg's reasoning. If you don't, then it means you believe you know the workings of NYC better than a mayor who has been there over 10 years and has seen his policies achieve results. If you believe you know more than he, then you may have delusions of grandeur.
And why would Bloomberg not want to take credit for this economic upturn and say he accomplished violence reduction by doing so and not by gun control policies?
Is it really an AR-15 or is that speculation, based on your observation of cosmetic similarities to an M4, which is actually already heavily regulated and a rare sight to see in private civilian collections? I'll guess the latter, AR-15s don't convert to fully automatic without either machining, gun smithing or use of regulated aftermarket parts. As for drum magazines, are you aware that they're notoriously unreliable? Reports from the Aurora shooting say that the shooter there had a drum magazine, which malfunctioned and forced the shooter to either reload or switch to another weapon.
I know the stats. I can show you the data, homicides per year in NYC. Easy to google.
And with gun controls, the declines in violence have decreased even more. Even if it is a slower rate (which is to be expected anyways because it is not possible to maintain the previous rate) 8% is still a significant number.
In other words, despite the facts being against you, you want to continue to make a claim that you can't possibly support, by citing a pro-gun-control politician and pretending that he is some sort of authority on criminology. Ludicrous. Should we also take Rob Ford's opinion as conclusive proof of whatever it is he believes? Rob Ford said it, so it must be true? How about McGuinty, or Harper? Or is Bloomberg somehow magical?
No rational person (non-resident to boot) would claim to know more about NYC than a very well-respected and creditable mayor (11 years so far?) like Bloomberg and needs to use Rob Ford? as an analogy. That looks like desperate measures to me.
I am talking about one particular politician regarding one particular issue, not a general claim, or do none of them know anything at all about what they are talking about?
Yes, those areas are gentrifying, the lowest income bracket everywhere in New York is rising and the poorest have been increasingly moved further and further our. Certainly there are still poor areas, but nowhere near as many nor as poor s 30 years ago.
