NOT GUILTY VERDICT -Zameer

[SchlongConery]

The fact is no matter how you look at it, Zameer killed someone and should be held accountable regardless if the cops lied.

He was held "accountable".

Accountable means obligated to explain, justify, and take responsibility for one's actions, and to answer to someone, such as a person with more authority.

Think "accountant". One who accounts for actions.

And the Auditor, being the Judge and twelve fellow citizens found that his accounting for his actions was justified in the circumstances. And they heard all the evidence. Including blantant lies three police officers that may likely be mor responsible for their fellow officer's death seemed to tell. A fourth fellow police Sargeant a forensic accident investigator gave corroborated testimony with physical evidence obvious to any layman, that proved Zameer could not even see the fallen officer he ran over.

What I think you really mean is he should be punished because "no matter how you look at it" Zameer killed someone. That someone being a police officer.


So if he was an American and two scruffy people came banging at his door saying they were police and demanding he open the door, OPEN THE DOOR, and he did... and the fat cop lost his balance as the door opened and smashed his eye socket through the fireplace poker the citizen had in his hand... the citizen should be "held accountable" for the death?

Fuck, in the USA, banging on someone's door aggressively can get you shot full of lead... right through a closed door!

 

[SchlongConery]

Sue the fuck out of the TPS buddy, now!

More like sure the Crown Attorney's for a misfeasant prosecution.

In a legal context, “misfeasance” refers to the improper performance of a lawful act, resulting in harm or injury to another person or entity.


And a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada for unethically pursuing a case they knew, aught t have known, and were advised had no reasonable prospect of conviction.

The three cops, two Crowns and anyone else involved in tthat decision making process has no place in the legal system. They bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

 

[jimidean2011]

More like sure the Crown Attorney's for a misfeasant prosecution.

In a legal context, “misfeasance” refers to the improper performance of a lawful act, resulting in harm or injury to another person or entity.


And a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada for unethically pursuing a case they knew, aught t have known, and were advised had no reasonable prospect of conviction.

The three cops, two Crowns and anyone else involved in tthat decision making process has no place in the legal system. They bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

At the end of the day they'll never face any true justice for their actions. They will be disciplined internally which mean no discipline at all.

 

[shack]

He was charged with murder and the facts didn't support homicide.

The cops lied so much that they couldn't prove the alternative theory - that he panicked and ran over the cop recklessly without knowing where he was lying. The cops all gave a different story.

So any way the cops tried to do the case was hopelessly fucked.

Maybe it was an honest mistake on their part.

 

[Kautilya]

Zameer speaks after his acquittal.

 

[Leimonis]

More like sure the Crown Attorney's for a misfeasant prosecution.

In a legal context, “misfeasance” refers to the improper performance of a lawful act, resulting in harm or injury to another person or entity.


And a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada for unethically pursuing a case they knew, aught t have known, and were advised had no reasonable prospect of conviction.

The three cops, two Crowns and anyone else involved in tthat decision making process has no place in the legal system. They bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

the cops will be promoted and the crown will be appointed

 

[SaturnFan]

I wonder what the verdict would have been if Zameer had run over a civilian in that underground garage?

 

[Kautilya]

I wonder what the verdict would have been if Zameer had run over a civilian in that underground garage?

May be they wouldn't have pressed charges in the first place.

 

[SchlongConery]

May be they wouldn't have pressed charges in the first place.

Nah, probably would have charged him. Look at that Milton case. Guy's house was invaded by armed gangbangers. He struggled with one guy and shot the intruder with the intruders gun in self defence. Cops charged him and the Crown prosecuted. $40,000 of legal fees later, he was either acquitted or I think the charges were actually withdrawn.

Rule of thumb is whomever is left standing over the other guy gets charged. Bar fight to gun fight to MVA.

Cops are pretty lazy a lot of the time. They charge first, ask questions later and then "let the courts sort it out". Like a lot of people, they are sick and tired of their jobs.

Be thankful you don't live or drive in the Dominican Republic or Cuba.

If you are driving normally and some drunk driving local without a helmet on his moto without lights smashes into you, YOU are charged and put in jail until the trial. If it was proven it was his fault, YOU still have to pay the family if he died. Or pay for his care for the rest of his life if he makes it and has permanant injuries.

I stopped renting cars in all but first world countries.

 

[bazokajoe]

WHY? He was found not guilty. Accountable for what?

Accountable for killing someone.

 

[SchlongConery]

Here is the story of the guy charged with murding a home invader.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ali-mian-milton-charges-dropped-murder-1.6923046

Murder charge dropped against Milton, Ont. man who shot home intruder

Crown withdrew 2nd-degree murder charge against Ali Mian after February shooting

 

[mandrill]

the cops will be promoted and the crown will be appointed

That Crown just saw that appointment to the Bench slide away.

 

[mandrill]

I wonder what the verdict would have been if Zameer had run over a civilian in that underground garage?

He would have been charged with negligent operation of a motor vehicle and probably been convicted.

 

[mandrill]

At the end of the day they'll never face any true justice for their actions. They will be disciplined internally which mean no discipline at all.

Kinda too high profile for the old "Transfer him to a desk job out in 22 Division and no one will remember who he is in 3 years' time."

 

[SchlongConery]

Accountable for killing someone.

Please share your definition of accountable.

I shared mine.

As I said earlier, and you ignored, he was held accountable. He accounted for his actions.

Why not stop using weasel words and say what you mean? The guy should have been punished because a cop was killed. Right? Is that what you want to say?

Or do you think the case was rigged, and the judges and jury members were all anti-police and leftard liberals?

He was held "accountable".

Accountable means obligated to explain, justify, and take responsibility for one's actions, and to answer to someone, such as a person with more authority.

Think "accountant". One who accounts for actions.

And the Auditor, being the Judge and twelve fellow citizens found that his accounting for his actions was justified in the circumstances. And they heard all the evidence. Including blantant lies three police officers that may likely be mor responsible for their fellow officer's death seemed to tell. A fourth fellow police Sargeant a forensic accident investigator gave corroborated testimony with physical evidence obvious to any layman, that proved Zameer could not even see the fallen officer he ran over.

What I think you really mean is he should be punished because "no matter how you look at it" Zameer killed someone. That someone being a police officer.


So if he was an American and two scruffy people came banging at his door saying they were police and demanding he open the door, OPEN THE DOOR, and he did... and the fat cop lost his balance as the door opened and smashed his eye socket through the fireplace poker the citizen had in his hand... the citizen should be "held accountable" for the death?

Fuck, in the USA, banging on someone's door aggressively can get you shot full of lead... right through a closed door!

 

[mandrill]

More like sure the Crown Attorney's for a misfeasant prosecution.

In a legal context, “misfeasance” refers to the improper performance of a lawful act, resulting in harm or injury to another person or entity.


And a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada for unethically pursuing a case they knew, aught t have known, and were advised had no reasonable prospect of conviction.

The three cops, two Crowns and anyone else involved in tthat decision making process has no place in the legal system. They bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

2.2 Duties and Responsibilities of Crown Counsel - PPSC

Department of Justice Canada's Internet site

www.ppsc-sppc.gc.ca

 

[SchlongConery]

He would have been charged with negligent operation of a motor vehicle and probably been convicted.

Not if he had that lawyer.

The circumstances for self defence would have been even stronger because not only would he have a reasonable apprehension of danger, the danger posed by real carjackers woudl have been real.

There was nothing negligent about his operation of a motor vehicle. I dare say it would be unwise to get in the way of two tonnes of steel. If the dead guy were not a cop, he should be charged with, if nothing else, damage to private property or even mischief for interfering with the owners legal right to use his property.

 

[mandrill]

More like sure the Crown Attorney's for a misfeasant prosecution.
In a legal context, “misfeasance” refers to the improper performance of a lawful act, resulting in harm or injury to another person or entity.
And a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada for unethically pursuing a case they knew, aught t have known, and were advised had no reasonable prospect of conviction.
The three cops, two Crowns and anyone else involved in tthat decision making process has no place in the legal system. They bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

How many phone calls a week you think that Crown got from the TPS higher brass and the Police Union yahoos checking up on her that she was "doing her job"?

She probably started out thinking that she had the case of her career and then got trapped in a train wreck.

 

[mandrill]

Not if he had that lawyer.

The circumstances for self defence would have been even stronger because not only would he have a reasonable apprehension of danger, the danger posed by real carjackers woudl have been real.

There was nothing negligent about his operation of a motor vehicle. I dare say it would be unwise to get in the way of two tonnes of steel. If the dead guy were not a cop, he should be charged with, if nothing else, damage to private property or even mischief for interfering with the owners legal right to use his property.

Some scruffy person leans on my car window, I lock the car and tell them to go fuck themselves and pull out my cellphone and call 911.

OTOH, I'm big and in shape.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

what actually happened here ? I know the plain clothed cops chased him and cut him off in a van, but I cannot find any details as to why they were chasing him