No More Toll Roads in Ontario

[SaturnFan]

DoFo says no more toll roads. I guess he figures the 407 gouges the population enough already!

Doug Ford government to ban tolls on Ontario highways

Ontario will ban tolls on all provincial highways, including the recently uploaded Don Valley Parkway and Gardiner Expressway in Toronto.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[Anbarandy]

There is nothing like the acidic and acrid stench of road congestion, gridlock, carbon emissions and pandering to suburban voters and car junkies that envelops Douggie in rapture.

 

[Leimonis]

I say we need more toll roads. Less traffic would be beautiful. Plebs can save money on cars, gas and insurance and ride the TTC rocket.

 

[NotADcotor]

The 407 rates are insane but the entire 400 series highways should be tolled and have congestion pricing.

 

[Not getting younger]

There is nothing like the acidic and acrid stench of road congestion, gridlock, carbon emissions and pandering to suburban voters and car junkies that envelops Douggie in rapture.

For once I actually agree with you. A pretty obvious example of vote buying the GTA. Especially stupid when the province is in debt up to its eyeballs thanks to the left and has trouble finding money for EAs, PSWs and a whole lot more ..

Not to mention the 55-60%of people that live outside the center of the universe. Have been thrown under the bus twice…And putting tolls on more roads is far more justifiable ( however we know the privileged and pampered will howl at the moon) and Ford likes his job.

However what you don’t seem to understand is that a couple decades of it, have created the problems you whine about.

 

[Anbarandy]

I say we need more toll roads. Less traffic would be beautiful. Plebs can save money on cars, gas and insurance and ride the TTC rocket.

The 407 rates are insane but the entire 400 series highways should be tolled and have congestion pricing.

For once I actually agree with you. A pretty obvious example of vote buying the GTA. Especially stupid when the province is in debt up to its eyeballs thanks to the left and has trouble finding money for EAs, PSWs and a whole lot more ..

Not to mention the 55-60%of people that live outside the center of the universe. Have been thrown under the bus twice…And putting tolls on more roads is far more justifiable ( however we know the privileged and pampered will howl at the moon) and Ford likes his job.

However what you don’t seem to understand is that a couple decades of it, have created the problems you whine about.

But, Doug would be unelectable if he doesn't buy/pander to suburban voters/car drivers.

 

[Not getting younger]

But, Doug would be unelectable if he doesn't buy/pander to suburban voters/car drivers.

Woooohoooo. The lightbulb just turned on.
Oh, you’re finally beginning to grasp why the 416/Province and Feds are in debt up their eyeballs.

And why residents of the GTA are referred to cityiots, and the center of the universe and why theres so much division in Canada

. Why Alberta Northern Ontario and Quebec want to separate and so much more.

Why you whine about immigrants and citizens swamping everything, why grid lock is bad and house prices so high. why theres “no money” for EA and RNs or coppers. Never mind Hydro or anyone else.

sorry I had to drag you to water kicking and screaming ( your good at that) like a stubborn and blind mule.

 

[oil&gas]

I propose tolls on all automobiles for the use of all highways
to ease congestion. Public transport like GO buses, ambulances
and trucks can be exempted.

 

[maurice93]

Are there actually any tolls on any highways in Ontario other than the 407? And not blaming Ford for the 407 … that contract is Iron Clad and could not be taken down by any stripe unless they buy the highway back.

But just wondering what current cost this cost saving announcement is actually addressing?

 

[bazokajoe]

I say we need more toll roads. Less traffic would be beautiful. Plebs can save money on cars, gas and insurance and ride the TTC rocket.

Ah yes, everyone in Ontario has a TTC rocket stopping in their neighbourhood. Delusional big city thinking.

 

[bazokajoe]

I think it's a great idea. We pay enough in sales and gas tax.

 

[bver_hunter]

Wonder why Dougie Boy does not temporarily remove the tolls when there is very serious construction being undertaken for over around 18 months that will cause the residents in that area nothing but sheer frustration:

'Not considering... removing tolls of Hwy. 407 at this time': Call for Durham leg of 407 to go toll-free due to coming 'traffic woes' gets a 'No' from province
Two years of construction on Winchester and road closure on Columbus Road in Brooklin will mean traffic nightmares east-west from 2024-26, councillors fear.

‘Not considering... removing tolls of Hwy. 407 at this time’: Call for Durham leg of 407 to go toll-free due to coming ‘traffic woes’ gets a ‘No’ from province

Two years of construction on Winchester and road closure on Columbus Road in Brooklin will mean traffic nightmares east-west from 2024-26, councillors fear.

www.durhamregion.com

 

[bver_hunter]

Woooohoooo. The lightbulb just turned on.
Oh, you’re finally beginning to grasp why the 416/Province and Feds are in debt up their eyeballs.

And why residents of the GTA are referred to cityiots, and the center of the universe and why theres so much division in Canada

. Why Alberta Northern Ontario and Quebec want to separate and so much more.

Why you whine about immigrants and citizens swamping everything, why grid lock is bad and house prices so high. why theres “no money” for EA and RNs or coppers. Never mind Hydro or anyone else.

sorry I had to drag you to water kicking and screaming ( your good at that) like a stubborn and blind mule.

He now has realized how his deficits are even worse than it was under the previous Wynn Govt.!!

Given that the Ford government is following the same spending trajectory as in the recent past, it should come as no surprise that the province is also experiencing similar fiscal outcomes. In fact, the Ford government is racking up debt in much the same manner as its predecessor.

Let’s look at the numbers. In 2013, Premier Wynne’s first year in power, Ontario’s net debt (a measure that subtracts financial assets from total liabilities) increased by 16.2 billion. Over the course of its five years in charge of Ontario’s finances, the Wynne government added an average of $12.8 billion per year in new debt.

During this time, the Progressive Conservative party in opposition was harshly critical of the Wynne government’s pace of debt accumulation. Vic Fedeli, then-finance critic and the Ford government’s first finance minister, promised to take “immediate action to mitigate this fiscal mess.”

And yet, if the government’s most recent forecast proves accurate, between 2018 and 2024 the Ford government will increase debt by $20.7 billion annually on average. These outcomes can’t be blamed substantially on the pandemic and recession, as the pattern predates the pandemic and is forecasted to continue for years to come.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/ford-government-continues-wynne-like-debt-levels

 

[Not getting younger]

He now has realized how his deficits are even worse than it was under the previous Wynn Govt.!!

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/ford-government-continues-wynne-like-debt-levels

Whiff still batting 0.00% Beaver. Maybe some balm will help salve that stinging.

you are deflecting from lightbulbs going off for you once again. Nor are you using your memory much. Just a few weeks ago when you thought you knew better and I was a die hard Righty.

I had to turn on a switch and
1) tip you off to credit ratings
2) give you a link to Ontarios credit being downgraded under Ford and why
3) link you to things Drummond had to say
4) many times blame you and Ford for increasing deficits. And wanting wanting wanting wanting.You can’t even connect these dots.

See just above above. We should add more tolls Mr pretender economist.

That’s a pretty bad memory you have there Beaver when you can’t even recall post/threads from a few weeks ago. Nor connect two dots within a few post.

whiff whiff whiff whiff
And you still have no idea why you guys are all batting 0.00%

 

[mandrill]

But, Doug would be unelectable if he doesn't buy/pander to suburban voters/car drivers.

That's me and all my neighbours who live in West Downtown and have jobs in the burbs that wouldn't be doable without the Gardiner Expressway.

The first woketard PoS politician who says "tear down the Gardiner", I vote for the other fucking party for the entire rest of my life, as does pretty much everybody else I know!

 

[niks9009]

The obvious solution to reducing highway congestion is providing better alternative means of transport. Tolls are just an enabler for the people who can afford to drive on open roads, while most of the actual traffic would remain gridlocked on non-toll roads. We need better rail infrastructure. This is just vote bank politics from Doug.

 

[bazokajoe]

Wonder why Dougie Boy does not temporarily remove the tolls when there is very serious construction being undertaken for over around 18 months that will cause the residents in that area nothing but sheer frustration:

'Not considering... removing tolls of Hwy. 407 at this time': Call for Durham leg of 407 to go toll-free due to coming 'traffic woes' gets a 'No' from province
Two years of construction on Winchester and road closure on Columbus Road in Brooklin will mean traffic nightmares east-west from 2024-26, councillors fear.

‘Not considering... removing tolls of Hwy. 407 at this time’: Call for Durham leg of 407 to go toll-free due to coming ‘traffic woes’ gets a ‘No’ from province

Two years of construction on Winchester and road closure on Columbus Road in Brooklin will mean traffic nightmares east-west from 2024-26, councillors fear.

www.durhamregion.com

It's owned by a private company.

 

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[Not getting younger]

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^^ actually funny.

 

[Skoob]

I propose tolls on all automobiles for the use of all highways
to ease congestion. Public transport like GO buses, ambulances
and trucks can be exempted.

I propose tolls on bike lanes.
On second thought, bikers will just use the sidewalks to avoid the toll.

just kidding...no one uses bike lanes anyway outside of downtown so no money to be made there.

Oh I know...how about a pedestrian toll?

Mind you they'll just walk in the bike lanes and cause congestion.

Actually no, they won't because there's no bikes anyway.

Nevermind.