NO KINGS PROTEST

[Frankfooter]

I’d like to know the answer. What type of protest do you support or is deemed acceptable?

Isn't it basically this?

Acceptable protest tactics for most oracles and right wingers
- honking all day
- demanding the PM resign
- blocking bridges and international trade
- use of violence against capital or other police
- threatening to hang the VP
- breaking and entering
- smearing shit on the walls

Unacceptable protest tactics
- protesting things they support

 

[Frankfooter]

Just read a good analysis on the rise of the modern autocratic state.

Post-Cold War, market ideologues had great success in dismantling the limits on economic oligarchies, sparking popular discontent on a global scale. Vladimir Putin found a semi-stable solution that is attractive to aspiring autocrats. In varying degrees, emulation of his model can now be found in countries as disparate as Belarus, Venezuela, Turkey, India, China, the US, Israel, Nicaragua, Saudi Arabia, and Hungary, governing perhaps half the world population.

The model relies on control of the media, engineered elections, dominance of the elite through centralized patronage and severe penalties, and nurturing minor threats into sustainable “existential” enemies. Alongside this emulation, Russia promotes its model abroad using its intelligence services and by weaponizing refugees to besiege its opponents, always aiming to build cooperation among like-thinking regimes under Moscow’s leadership. Whatever its fate in the long run, right now hope that a fraternity of autocrats would be mutually beneficial seems only partially fulfilled.

The US has been heading that way slowly since Reagan and Citizen's United.
All the tools were there before trump was elected, but now he's in and the question is whether america will stay as an autocracy.

 

[Jenesis]

Isn't it basically this?

Acceptable protest tactics for most oracles and right wingers
- honking all day
- demanding the PM resign
- blocking bridges and international trade
- use of violence against capital or other police
- threatening to hang the VP
- breaking and entering
- smearing shit on the walls

Unacceptable protest tactics
- protesting things they support

That is your opinion of him. I would like to hear from him.

 

[jalimon]

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It was not a day with the intend to reverse power like January 6. It was actually the opposite, trying to make people remember that democracy is fragile.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

So are you saying the only kind of protest you will support are the violent Jan 6th, insurrection kind, that attempt to overthrow a sitting government?

Do you support BLM protests??

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You do realize the purpose of the protest is to protest against Trump's policies and not to remove him from power, right?

Your side can protest all you want, but Trump has 3 years left in his mandate and he's not going anywhere

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

This is going to be awesome and hopefully the head clown will be able to control himself so he doesn't pass out with anger.

'Trump must go': Large crowds join 'No Kings' protests across U.S.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/no-kings-protests-9.6944035

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Do you support BLM protests??

Yes.

Your side can protest all you want, but Trump has 3 years left in his mandate and he's not going anywhere

We know that.
And we also know that you can continue to live vicariously under your 4th Liberal term right here in Canada. lmfao.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Yes

So you support a movement who's slogan was "lets fry cops in bacon" and who burned down privately-owned businesses.
This make you just as bad as the Jan. 6'ers.
Actually, since BLM destroyed private businesses who have nothing to do with the government, it makes you worse.
If you have a beef with the cops then attack police stations, but leave private citizens out of it

And we also know that you can continue to live vicariously under your 4th Liberal term right here in Canada. lmfao

Hey, I think Carney is doing a great job. He's far more right-wing than I thought he would be.
He's opening up oil fields, mining projects....etc. He's now also going to reform bail.
He's doing great!! Better than that commie Trudope

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

So you support a movement who's slogan was "lets fry cops in bacon" and who burned down privately-owned businesses.

That is neither their slogan, nor did they burn down businesses.
Some opportunists looted businesses, while much of the violence was actually started by cops, not the protesters.

 

[dvous11]

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That is neither their slogan

Bullshit! At least be man enough to own it

nor did they burn down businesses.........some opportunists looted businesses

You're contradicting yourself here. And you're also wrong.
The riots affected almost 1,500 businesses:

Google Search

It even has its own wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arson_damage_during_the_George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis–Saint_Paul

much of the violence was actually started by cops, not the protesters

That is complete horseshit, and you know it

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Bullshit! At least be man enough to own it

A screenshot from your own video. Try again.

You're contradicting yourself here. And you're also wrong.
The riots affected almost 1,500 businesses:

Yes, there were riots.
No the riots were not committed by BLM.
The riots were committed by opportunists and also far right wing actors who used the protests as an excuse to do so.
The vast majority of the BLM protests were very peaceful.

That is completely not true, and you know it

Of course it is true.

List of police violence incidents during George Floyd protests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nearly 1,000 instances of police brutality recorded in US anti-racism protests

Police attacks on citizens and journalists over five months accompanied by incidents of tolerance of or collaboration with far right

www.theguardian.com

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

A screenshot from your own video. Try again.
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Of course BLM are denying it, cause they got caught on video.
They never take responsibility for their actions.
The video speaks for itself

Yes, there were riots.
No the riots were not committed by BLM.
The riots were committed by opportunists and also far right wing actors who used the protests as an excuse to do so.
The vast majority of the BLM protests were very peaceful

Ah, so now you're saying "the vast majority". But you admit some were not so peaceful.
And those some who were not peaceful clearly looted and burned down businesses.
Thank you for at least partially agreeing with me

Of course it is true.

List of police violence incidents during George Floyd protests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nearly 1,000 instances of police brutality recorded in US anti-racism protests

Police attacks on citizens and journalists over five months accompanied by incidents of tolerance of or collaboration with far right

www.theguardian.com

No doubt there may have been police brutality, but that doesnt give protestors the right to loot and burn down private businesses

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Of course BLM are denying it, cause they got caught on video.
They never take responsibility for their actions.
The video speaks for itself

They did not get caught on video.
There was no BLM there.
Not all protesters are BLM and these looters are just opportunists.

Ah, so now you're saying "the vast majority". But you admit some were not so peaceful.
And those some who were not peaceful clearly looted and burned down businesses.
Thank you for at least partially agreeing with me

Of course, we know there was looting and rioting. Who denied that?
I am saying it wasn't BLM activists who did that.
They were opportunists and local agitators who have nothing to do with the movement and simply used the protests as an excuse.

No doubt there may have been police brutality, but that doesnt give protestors the right to loot and burn down private businesses

No one said anyone had a right to burn down businesses.
But it was counter to your point that police did not engage in violence.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

They did not get caught on video.
There was no BLM there

You have no way of knowing that.
Just because BLM denied it doesnt mean they were telling the truth

Not all protesters are BLM

Maybe not all, but you're clearly admitting that some are

I am saying it wasn't BLM activists who did that

Actually, you just admitted that some did do that

No one said anyone had a right to burn down businesses.
But it was counter to your point that police did not engage in violence

Police violence crosses all races, not just black people.
If I throw a molotov cocktail at a cop, there's a good chance I'm going to get an ass-kicking.
If not right there on the street, probably afterwards at the police station.

Maybe if you dont loot and burn down businesses, you wont get your ass kicked by the police.
Thats just a suggestion though

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You have no way of knowing that.
Just because BLM denied it doesnt mean they were telling the truth

Of course I do have a way of knowing that.
a) There is no evidence that the rioters are BLM representatives.
b) BLM put out a statement condemning violence against police officers.

Maybe not all, but you're clearly admitting that some are

I said rioters are local agitators, not representatives of BLM.

Actually, you just admitted that some did do that

Nope, I did not say that. That is a lie. I said the exact opposite.

I am saying it wasn't BLM activists who did that.

Police violence crosses all races, not just black people.

Yes and the rioters and looters were of all races too.

If I throw a molotov cocktail at a cop, there's a good chance I'm going to get an ass-kicking.
If not right there on the street, probably afterwards at the police station.

Maybe if you dont loot and burn down businesses, you wont get your ass kicked by the police.
Thats just a suggestion though

Except in the cases of police violence I highlighted above, it was the police who unleashed violence on peaceful protesters.
Which is nothing new.
That has been the MO for crowd suppression for decades, and the part of the reason for the protests is exactly that sort of behaviour.

 

[richaceg]

 

[The Oracle]

You said that Trump will be president regardless of the protest in your prior post.
So it seems to me that you think any protest worth supporting is one which seeks to overthrow a government. Like Jan 6th.

Use the search function and you will be able to understand my stance on Jan 6th as it unfolded.

Bull horns and all...

 

[richaceg]