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NO JOHNS CHARGED IN ONTARIO TWO MONTHS AFTER NEW PROSTITUTION LAW ENACTED-Sun Article

bobcat40

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Saw a comment in the paper the other day (can't remember where or when) that quoted a high ranking officer with the Durham Regional Police that commented favourably on Bill C-36 because it gave them better tools than the previous legislation to do the job police forces should be doing, rescuing the young women who are being trafficked and putting the pimps in jail where they belong. I believe that article contained a recognition that there are many SP's who are in the business of their own choosing. He certainly didn't sound like Durham Police have a hard on for harassing the johns frequenting these SP's.
For the most part, they don't want to go after SPs working of their own free will trying to make a living. It's not exactly a great PR move to destroy a livelihood of an SP trying to feed her family given social attitudes towards prostitution today.
 

squeezer

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It would probably be better if this wasn't reported in the news. You get the feeling that someone in some Ontario police department is holding up this article saying they need to do something about it.
This is a concern because it puts the spot light on the issue and with Wynne declaring they will follow the spirit of the law before sending it to the AG may prove to force her hand. The AG hasn't yet come out condemning the bill for being in her opinion unconstitutional.

The Sun Media along with the Abolitionists are attempting to put pressure on Ontario.
 

GameBoy27

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their paper the Toronto sun is still carrying SP ads.
Now said they will defy the law and continue to run ads. Mind you, what choice do they have. Escort ads likely makes up 90% of their advertising revenue. Of course I'm guessing at the percentage, but it's likely a lot.
 

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For the most part, they don't want to go after SPs working of their own free will trying to make a living. It's not exactly a great PR move to destroy a livelihood of an SP trying to feed her family given social attitudes towards prostitution today.
Hope you're right Bob.
 
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The Injustice Minister mentions funding to help prostitutes exit the industry, which is a drop in the bucket if they were truly serious about helping all prostitutes.

The other aspect is that many prostitutes are content doing what they are doing, but the Conservatives feel they are morally superior by imposing a law that judges prostitutes or johns, and restricts their freedom, when no harm is done to themselves or society at large.
Typical TALIBAN tactic ..... Conservatives are Christian Taliban
 

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Typical TALIBAN tactic ..... Conservatives are Christian Taliban
omg...you're him, aren't you?

You're the dude that hangs out outside of Old City Hall (in warm weather, anyway...the passion apparently doesn't exist in the winter) with those signs going on about the "Taliban" Canadian gov't and still, like 9 years after he burst onto the international scene, blathering about Obama's middle name.
 

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Somebody at the police department is holding the article and thinks:" Great, now that we have tools to fight crimes like Human Trafficking, we are supposed to drop it and go chase Johns"
One can hope.
 

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but with Baird leaving office, the odds of Mackay taking the reigns after Harper have increased.
Well, we'll be throwing the bums out of office before that happens, if I have any say in the matter, at least.
 

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I question whether this article will have a positive effect or a negative one..
Don't poke the bear.
 

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What a coincidence:) And I hear they are frustrated over decreased revenue from advertising.
I was actually wondering if there has been at least one case in Canada where a client has been charged in some undercover in-call or street operation. I have been waiting to read something like this in the news. But nope... Which is definitely good news.
There has been a number of people charged.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/life/Vice+unit+targets+johns+workers/10769318/story.html
 

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The article implies that he police are mainly targeting clients who are trying to pick up SPs who are soliciting the streets close to churches and schools. So instead of arresting the street sex workers lime they used to, it seems like they are setting up a sting more in line with the USA. Not much said about those clients who are meeting up in private places such as hotels or residences.
 

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The article implies that he police are mainly targeting clients who are trying to pick up SPs who are soliciting the streets close to churches and schools. So instead of arresting the street sex workers lime they used to, it seems like they are setting up a sting more in line with the USA. Not much said about those clients who are meeting up in private places such as hotels or residences.
First they came for the...
 

TeasePlease

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Instead of blaming the Police chiefs and provinces for not enforcing the law, why they didn't blame the feds for not consulting with them before voting this bill ?
So now the federal government is writing new laws that provinces and police don't want to enforce and the latter are the ones to be blamed, does it make sense ?

To be clear, I don't defend C-36, but legislators don't answer to law enforcement officials. LE may be consulted for practical considerations. But, this isn't really about practical objections. The refusal to enforce is conceptual/principle based.

I don't like the idea of LE choosing which laws they want to enforce. That's a dangerous precedent.

If they/we truly believe that this is a bad law, the right thing to do would be prosecute it and prove it to be unjust in a court of law.
 

TeasePlease

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L.E is only enforce laws which is based on harm to communities
Source or authority?

Oddly, harm to communities is nowhere to be found in the oath sworn by police officers under the polices services act of ontario.
 

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To be clear, I don't defend C-36, but legislators don't answer to law enforcement officials. LE may be consulted for practical considerations. But, this isn't really about practical objections. The refusal to enforce is conceptual/principle based.

I don't like the idea of LE choosing which laws they want to enforce. That's a dangerous precedent.

If they/we truly believe that this is a bad law, the right thing to do would be prosecute it and prove it to be unjust in a court of law.
I motion that you be the test case... second anyone?
 
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