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No Deal Got Done--Vladdy Going to Free Agency

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Awesome, let Vladdy enter free agency next season. The Jays don't need him!!
You obviously haven't been paying attention to contracts lately. The price has/is going up and $500mil over 14 isn't much for a player like Vladdy. He'll easily get more on the open market.
 

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Awesome, let Vladdy enter free agency next season. The Jays don't need him!!
That's an ignorant statement seeing as everyone of the other 29 teams would love to have him but it's just the Jays that don't need him.

With their paltry offense they probably need his 30-40 HRs and 100+ RBIs more than most teams. Who's going to replace that without also costing an arm and a leg? Loperfido? Barger?
 
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to contracts lately. The price has/is going up and $500mil over 14 isn't much for a player like Vladdy. He'll easily get more on the open market.
He has no idea what he's talking about. He admitted that his whole reasoning for saying the Jays would be dumb to sign him is based on solid baseball metrics:

I guess I'm just not a Vladdy fan!!
I mean, who can argue with that logic?
 
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He has no idea what he's talking about. He admitted that his whole reasoning for saying the Jays would be dumb to sign him is based on solid baseball metrics:



I mean, who can argue with that logic?
I guess he's more a Spence Horwitz kinda guy. With that thinking, this team will be basement dwellers for eternity.
 

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He has no idea what he's talking about. He admitted that his whole reasoning for saying the Jays would be dumb to sign him is based on solid baseball metrics:



I mean, who can argue with that logic?
I've been a Jays fan my whole life, and I don't think it's fiscally prudent for the Jays to sign vladdy to a 14 yr contract.....LMAO
 

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That's an ignorant statement seeing as everyone of the other 29 teams would love to have him but it's just the Jays that don't need him.

With their paltry offense they probably need his 30-40 HRs and 100+ RBIs more than most teams. Who's going to replace that without also costing an arm and a leg? Loperfido? Barger?
Let the other 29 teams fight over him, next season. I hope I'm proven wrong. I'm going to check Vladdy's stats very carefully this season!!
 

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You obviously haven't been paying attention to contracts lately. The price has/is going up and $500mil over 14 isn't much for a player like Vladdy. He'll easily get more on the open market.
So let him get it, in the open market, then!!
 

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I've been a Jays fan my whole life, and I don't think it's fiscally prudent for the Jays to sign vladdy to a 14 yr contract.....LMAO
So you were born after 1977. So by the time you turned 20 and could analyze things as an adult, that's less than 30 years. I've been doing it much longer than you, so your comment about being a Jays fan "your whole life" is trumped by me following them as an adult their entire existence. I've got you by a good 20 years.

We will see next off season how many baseball executives, who have been in this business longer than you've been alive and get paid millions to make decisions like this, disagree with you. Any teams that are mentioned as talking to his agent already know how much he's asking for and are prepared to pursue him.

Right now there are way more experts criticizing the Jays' approach than praising them. Just today I heard John Heyman, Shi Davidi and Jeff Blair saying they are wrong seeing as we are talking about only $3 or 4 million/year. They just pissed away $11M getting that Jack Straw in a failed attempt at getting Sasaki. The only one I saw agreeing with you was that 15 year old blogger with no credentials that you posted about.

I'll guess there will be at least a half dozen pursuers. The other ones would like him but don't have the money. Rogers has the money.
 
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So you were born after 1977. So by the time you turned 20 and could analyze things as an adult, that's less than 30 years. I've been doing it much longer than you, so your comment about being a Jays fan "your whole life" is trumped by me following them as an adult their entire existence. I've got you by a good 20 years.

We will see next off season how many baseball executives, who have been in this business longer than you've been alive and get paid millions to make decisions like this, disagree with you. Any teams that are mentioned as talking to his agent already know how much he's asking for and are prepared to pursue him.

Right now there are way more experts criticizing the Jays' approach than praising them. Just today I heard John Heyman, Shi Davidi and Jeff Blair saying they are wrong seeing as we are talking about only $3 or 4 million/year. They just pissed away $11M getting that Jack Straw in a failed attempt at getting Sasaki. The only one I saw agreeing with you was that 15 year old blogger with no credentials that you posted about.

I'll guess there will be at least a half dozen pursuers. The other ones would like him but don't have the money. Rogers has the money.
I was born before 1977----LMAO Like I said in the other Jays thread, I was even at the Jays franchise opening day game on April 7/1977, at the old exhibition stadium. The game was against the chicago white sox, and the hero of the game was Doug Ault, who hit 2 home runs. It was also snowing heavily that day. Fun times, indeed!!
 
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