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Anderson

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Ok so you've asked questions, now answer mine.

Whats your budget, how much money have you invested ?
 

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LIM said:
I am quite serious, simply looking for a niche to stand out from the other agencies.

I look forward to proving you wrong,
LIM:cool:
if you want to be different try putting the accurate weight and measurements i've seen so many woman that are the same height but larger than me put their weight lower than mine
if you can tell a fib like that guys will wonder what else your fibbing about
i don't see how being without pic's would be helpful. if you do have pic's don't photo shop them to make them look better having the pic's not look like the provider will also work against you.
have each girl write their own intro guys like to see what they think and feel about them selves instead of some generic intro made by the agency owner.
have a wide variety of girls eg.. body type, race, age, services, etc make sure you have a little something for everyone
just a few ideas for you to ponder
good luck
 

Anderson

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Ouch !

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And where the hell do you shove that crystal ball that tells you all of this.

How do you know LIM has no money?

How do you know that no pics means no clients?

And why would LIM not be serious? And what idiotic questions?

I only ask because I know many SP's and agencies that have clients with, wait for it............ No pics! OMG, I know. How shocking is that? And guess what, not just one or two clients, but lots of clients.

I also know many who have come to TERB to get feedback on their ideas before opening a business. And I personally think it is idiotic to assume anyones financial position on this board, but that is just me.




And lastly, why should LIM answer your question? You never answered his. All you did was come back with smart-ass negative responses. I would agree fair is fair if you actually did answer his questions with some respect and intelligence. Again, that is just me though.

Kiarra
I will answer all of your questions very soon. I just want you to calm down a little first since I think I hit a nerve !
 

Anderson

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Thank you for your concern !

My attitude is because I spent my most formulative years in Brookyn !

My anger comes from racist remarks and those on the board who obviously spoute Jew hatred in many forms. I am not sorry if me standing up against racists and anti -semites bothers you but I really could'nt care less. I also do not like people who exploit others.

Some guys say escorts and nice words like roses and donations and managers/owners , but I use the word hooker and dollars and pimps which I know bugs some people but I understand words and do not like to play word games even though most do.
It also really bugs me when people attempt to be passive aggressive but I cannot be bothered to explain why you fit that criteria.

As for Lim, if this individual wishes to enter the world of pimping , then I am quite sure that he/she is tough enough to defend himself/herself on a message board.


My background is finance and hence my dollars question was really to offer some concrete advice.
 

Anderson

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KWI,

I am going to give you a non sarcastic answer here.

Lim comes and starts a thread asking for advice.

His thread illicits some sarcasm and some honest answers telling him what they think.

He in effect wants opinions but has already decided what he will do anyway.

I do angel investing and venture cap btw.

When I see something so ridiculous I decided to comment quite sarcastically because his chance of sucess is zero. Now , I could sugar coat it, but in reality I am doing him a big favour.

Selling woman, and to boot not even offer pictures which in reality is all men want. Services are very important of course as well but he will not even have a website which will mean that he is making himself seem more ''b and s '' , when he does not wish that.

Even if he is honest, no one would give him a chance.

His ''business'' is in effect , a cell phone and a girl .

Maybe I should not have been sarcastic in hindsite, but his thought process here is very poor.

Zero chance for success as it stands,lastly KWI and also Lim -it is quite obvious that he has no money.
 

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Anderson, I beg to differ. There really are two main factors:

1. Can he get hot girls?

2. Can he provide good service?

If he can do those two things then while startup may be slower than with pics he will build up a loyal client list. That is the essence of this business, the client list.

An SP can hire her own driver, her own phone operators, do everything that an agency does for her, and do it for less money. Agencies add no value in that area. Where they add value is in the client list--a bunch of people whose trust they've won who turn to the agency because they want a no bullshit experience.

I do not think pics are the essence of this business.

He's going to have to be careful with his business in the beginning because without pics business will be initially slow, and that may limit his ability to keep hot women busy. If they're not busy enough, they will jump ship.

I'd bet against him too but only becaues I'd bet against any new agency, not because I think there is a problem with having no pics.

If he can get the girls, if he can run a tight ship, and earn people's trust, he can make a go of it.
 

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Anderson said:
My anger comes from racist remarks and those on the board who obviously spoute Jew hatred in many forms. I am not sorry if me standing up against racists and anti -semites bothers you but I really could'nt care less. I also do not like people who exploit others.

Some guys say escorts and nice words like roses and donations and managers/owners , but I use the word hooker and dollars and pimps which I know bugs some people but I understand words and do not like to play word games even though most do.
It seems really strange to me that someone who is so concerned about racism and anti-semitism wouldn't understand how hateful words can be.

When you use "hooker" instead of "service provider" to "avoid playing word games," it really makes me wonder--do you still say "ni---r" when describing a person of (black-) African descent?

Also what makes everyone so sure that Lim is a man?

And can anyone find an example of anti-semitism on this board?
 

Anderson

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KWI said:
I clearly missed some posts, or something because I did not see any Jewish hatred. I would never be bothered by someone standing up against racists. Not at all, I 'll stand with you, but I didn't see that here in this thread.

I get the Brooklyn reference now, thank you.
I meant on this board , not on this thread-hence my anger towards these people.
 

Anderson

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fuji said:
Anderson, I beg to differ. There really are two main factors:

1. Can he get hot girls?

2. Can he provide good service?

If he can do those two things then while startup may be slower than with pics he will build up a loyal client list. That is the essence of this business, the client list.

An SP can hire her own driver, her own phone operators, do everything that an agency does for her, and do it for less money. Agencies add no value in that area. Where they add value is in the client list--a bunch of people whose trust they've won who turn to the agency because they want a no bullshit experience.

I do not think pics are the essence of this business.

He's going to have to be careful with his business in the beginning because without pics business will be initially slow, and that may limit his ability to keep hot women busy. If they're not busy enough, they will jump ship.

I'd bet against him too but only becaues I'd bet against any new agency, not because I think there is a problem with having no pics.

If he can get the girls, if he can run a tight ship, and earn people's trust, he can make a go of it.
I think ''hot girls '' will not be too attracted to Lim as Lim already indicated that the clients are more important than the girls.
 

Anderson

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Strange -no, rational -yes

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It seems really strange to me that someone who is so concerned about racism and anti-semitism wouldn't understand how hateful words can be.

When you use "hooker" instead of "service provider" to "avoid playing word games," it really makes me wonder--do you still say "ni---r" when describing a person of (black-) African descent?

Also what makes everyone so sure that Lim is a man?

And can anyone find an example of anti-semitism on this board?
Hooker, prostitute , service provider , escort mean the same thing.

No, I do not think that the "N '' word is the same as saying black. The history is very different.

Now play with someone else.
 

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Anderson said:
I think ''hot girls '' will not be too attracted to Lim as Lim already indicated that the clients are more important than the girls.
I'm curious about where I said such a thing. What I have been saying is that the client and the women are equally important to this business, without one you cannot have this kind of business.

As for answering your question about finances, that is something I never discuss with someone I do not know, business or otherwise. And if this makes you think I have no money, so be it.

To Luv, thanks. That's a great idea about getting the girls to post their own intros.
 

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preciate it said:
It seems really strange to me that someone who is so concerned about racism and anti-semitism wouldn't understand how hateful words can be.

When you use "hooker" instead of "service provider" to "avoid playing word games," it really makes me wonder--do you still say "ni---r" when describing a person of (black-) African descent?

Also what makes everyone so sure that Lim is a man?

And can anyone find an example of anti-semitism on this board?
Very good question. I look forward to reading Anderson's answers.
 

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Anderson said:
Hooker, prostitute , service provider , escort mean the same thing.

No, I do not think that the "N '' word is the same as saying black. The history is very different.

Now play with someone else.
LOL. Yes, its tough when someone points out the contradictions in your position. Your non-response is not very convincing.
 

Anderson

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Questor said:
LOL. Yes, its tough when someone points out the contradictions in your position. Your non-response is not very convincing.
There was no contradiction in my posistion.
 

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Anderson said:
There was no contradiction in my posistion <sic>.
I disagree. I believe that terms like hooker and pimp dehumanize and promote hatred against those who sell sexual services for money or "manage" the affairs of those that do. I also believe that terms like kike and jew boy dehumanize and promote hatred against people of jewish ancestry. In both cases language is being used to achieve certain goals. Really, aren't people of jewish ancestry just kikes and jew boys? Isn't calling them people of jewish ancestry just sugar coating it? You use language in one situation and you attack those who use the same tactics in the other situation. I would call that a contradiction. Or is it that you call them hookers and pimps out of respect and professional courtesy?
 

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LIM said:
I'm curious about where I said such a thing. What I have been saying is that the client and the women are equally important to this business, without one you cannot have this kind of business.

As for answering your question about finances, that is something I never discuss with someone I do not know, business or otherwise. And if this makes you think I have no money, so be it.

To Luv, thanks. That's a great idea about getting the girls to post their own intros.
You did not say such a thing. I went and checked and apologize for my error.I reread what you wrote to Minnie, sorry.

I offer you good luck on your venture.
 

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LIM said:
To Luv, thanks. That's a great idea about getting the girls to post their own intros.
no problem any time
if you need a web site designer let me know. the woman i worked with on my site is very good at what she does and is so easy to work with regarding on what you want on the site
take a look at mine if you wish she also does photos
www.sweetnlovinlady.ca
 

Anderson

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Excellent ! Lets debate !!

Questor said:
I disagree. I believe that terms like hooker and pimp dehumanize and promote hatred against those who sell sexual services for money or "manage" the affairs of those that do. I also believe that terms like kike and jew boy dehumanize and promote hatred against people of jewish ancestry. In both cases language is being used to achieve certain goals. Really, aren't people of jewish ancestry just kikes and jew boys? Isn't calling them people of jewish ancestry just sugar coating it? You use language in one situation and you attack those who use the same tactics in the other situation. I would call that a contradiction. Or is it that you call them hookers and pimps out of respect and professional courtesy?
Your belief is not valid.

Prostitute means ''offering sex for money'', other words can be street walker, call girl, concubine, courtesan, lady of the evening etc.

How ''hooker ''promotes hatred is a bizarre thought process.

How people here can use hookers, and then claim that thats ok, but the usage of the word is not ok is bizarre and irrational at best and maybe a sign of mental illness at the worst- meaning not being able to rational or understand this basic concept.

Xavier Hollander called herself ''the happy hooker''. I use the term hooker here because it amuses me that people get irked , yet still give money to these girls pimps! This word bothers you too !!! Also I have recieved no comments from woman here about the word, only comments from the Johns ( opps )

A pimp means what ???

My very rational thought process is that it is a womans right to do what she chooses with her body be it sex or abortions. When pimps are involved , it bothers me because sometimes they beat these young ladies and take their money ( funny how that does not bug you, but the use of the word does !)
As for your very cute Jew comparison, well ....... Kike and Jewboy to Judaism is not a synonem funny guy !!

Maybe your beef should be with Oxford or Webster , not me.
 
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