Does rtepeating your post about an ancient tradition somehow strengthen your argument?
Netenyahu the ignorant zionist
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Where Is The Outcry Against Arab Apartheid?Don't forget what the Arab world has done to the Palestinians and what the Palestinians have done to themselves.
Mohammed Nabil Taha, an 11-year-old Palestinian boy, died this week at the entrance to a Lebanese hospital after doctors refused to help him because his family could not afford to pay for medical treatment.
The tragic case of Taha highlights the plight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who live in impoverished refugee camps in Lebanon and who are the victims of an Apartheid system that denies them access to work, education and medical care.
Ironically, the boy's death at the entrance to the hospital coincided with Israel Apartheid Week, a festival of hatred and incitement organized by anti-Israel activists on university campuses in the US, Canada and other countries.
It is highly unlikely that the folks behind the festival have heard about the case of Taha. Judging from past experiences, it is also highly unlikely that they would publicize the case after they heard about it.
Why should anyone care about a Palestinian boy who is denied medical treatment by an Arab hospital? This is a story that does not have an anti-Israel angle to it.
Can anyone imagine what would have happened if an Israeli hospital had abandoned a boy to die in its parking lot because his father did not have $1,500 to pay for his treatment?
The UN Security Council would hold an emergency session and Israel would be strongly condemned and held responsible for the death of the boy.
All this is happening at a time when tens of thousands of Palestinian patients continue to benefit from treatments in Israeli hospitals.
Last year alone, some 180,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip entered Israel to receive medical treatment. Many were treated despite the fact that they did not have enough money to cover the bill. In Israel, even a suicide bomber who is -- only! -- wounded while trying to kill Jews is entitled to the finest medical treatment. And there have been many instances where Palestinians who were injured in attacks on Israel later ended up in some of Israel's best hospitals.
Lebanon, by the way, is not the only Arab country that officially applies Apartheid laws against Palestinians, denying them the right to receive proper medical treatment and own property.
Just last week it was announced that a medical center in Jordan has decided to stop treating Palestinian cancer patients because the Palestinian Authority has failed to pay its debts to the center.
Other Arab countries have also been giving the Palestinians a very hard time when it comes to receiving medical treatment.
It is disgraceful that while Israel admits Palestinian patients to its hospitals, Arab hospitals are denying them medical treatment for various reasons, including money. But then one is reminded that Arab dictators do not care about their own people, so why should they pay attention to an 11-year-old boy who is dying at the entrance to a hospital because his father was not carrying $1,500?
But as the death took place in an Arab country – and as the victim is an Arab – why should anyone care about him? Where is the outcry against Arab Apartheid?
Look what they're not doing in Syria, at least 7000 Syrian civilians have been tortured and butchered like dogs, and none of the arabs are doing nothing. and it continues....Don't forget what the Arab world has done to the Palestinians and what the Palestinians have done to themselves.
BS is right. Your revisionist history is laughable. Why do you think Iraq invaded Iran in 1980. Answer - because the Ayatollah Khomeini was calling on Iraq Shias to overthrow the Ba'ath Regime. They supported Ba'athist assassinations including an attempted assasination on Tariq Aziz. They have been an official state sponsor of terrorism since the Islamists took over in 1979. Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Kurdistan Workers Party and other terrorist organizations have been trained by Iranian Revolutionary Guard (Al Quds Force). They armed insurgents in Iraq against Coalition forces. They also supported the Northern Alliance against the Taliban (probably the only good thing they have done).Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!
In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.
In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.
So, who is the danger to world peace?
BS
They have repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and have provided material support as such. Every act Israel has made has been in defense against aggression by forces hostile to them.
apartheid?Where Is The Outcry Against Arab Apartheid?
They live as a stateless people under UN guidance awaiting for Israel to allow them to re-enter, as countless UN resolutions have requested.
So that's why Lebanon refuses to give them basic human rights? No schooling, no health care, not allowed to buy land, not allowed in most productive careers, kept in primitive camps, etc. Lebanon has absolutely no respect for the Palestinians other than a pawn to justify their hatred of Israel and it seems either do you.apartheid?
They live as a stateless people under UN guidance awaiting for Israel to allow them to re-enter, as countless UN resolutions have requested.
So you are clearly stating that they are not citizens of Israel.They live as a stateless people
I actually really like most persians I've met and can totally believe that the useless fantatics in charge don't really represent them. It really pisses me off that that those goofies have ruined a nation of such cultural depths and arts and poetry and ideas and best of all some seriously fuckable women (remembers Lydia's huge tits in his face with a dreamy smile). I don't want Iran blown to fucking hell, but I want these fucking impotient, monkey raping, pus slurping, jack booted, megaturds rulers gone and Persians with the same freedoms Canadians have. And I want Iran's ugly name to be restored back to the lovely Persia.
won't happen as long as Israel continues to threaten war on the Iran...and vice versa for Israel.I actually really like most persians I've met and can totally believe that the useless fantatics in charge don't really represent them. It really pisses me off that that those goofies have ruined a nation of such cultural depths and arts and poetry and ideas and best of all some seriously fuckable women (remembers Lydia's huge tits in his face with a dreamy smile). I don't want Iran blown to fucking hell, but I want these fucking impotient, monkey raping, pus slurping, jack booted, megaturds rulers gone and Persians with the same freedoms Canadians have. And I want Iran's ugly name to be restored back to the lovely Persia.
Don't confuse Groggy with facts, he enjoys living in his hate fantasy.So that's why Lebanon refuses to give them basic human rights? No schooling, no health care, not allowed to buy land, not allowed in most productive careers, kept in primitive camps, etc. Lebanon has absolutely no respect for the Palestinians other than a pawn to justify their hatred of Israel and it seems either do you.
Very true.won't happen as long as Israel continues to threaten war on the Iran...and vice versa for Israel.
Check out the latest opinion poll results in the Arab world:
http://english.dohainstitute.org/Home/Details?entityID=5ea4b31b-155d-4a9f-8f4d-a5b428135cd5&resourceId=137413a0-bde2-43a0-b3f4-aa77e3f3499173 percent of respondents believe that Israel and the US are the two countries presenting the largest threat to the security of the Arab world, with 51 percent believing that Israel is the most threatening, 22 percent believe the US is the most threatening, and 5 percent reporting a belief that Iran is the single country most threatening to the security of their countries. The results on this question vary from one Arab country to another.
55 percent support having the Middle East declared a nuclear-weapons-free zone, compared to 29 percent who would oppose such a move. The majority of the 55 percent believe that Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons justifies possession of such weapons by other countries in the region.
More than two-thirds of Arabs support a democratic form of government, believing in the importance of a transfer of power.
That's the reality over there, everyone is worried about Israel attacking countries, not Iran.
And like here, the governments are still not reflecting the will of the people, as in Israel where over 60% do not support a war with Iran.
National Security is the nickname for "let's bulid nukes"...for Iran and Israel...really fucked up situation, and one that needs some serious resolution.....or you can say bye bye to the entire region in 5 years.Very true.
Check out the latest opinion poll results in the Arab world:
http://english.dohainstitute.org/Home/Details?entityID=5ea4b31b-155d-4a9f-8f4d-a5b428135cd5&resourceId=137413a0-bde2-43a0-b3f4-aa77e3f34991
That's the reality over there, everyone is worried about Israel attacking countries, not Iran.
And like here, the governments are still not reflecting the will of the people, as in Israel where over 60% do not support a war with Iran.
You clearly misunderstand zionism. You also seem to think that ancient events are important is deciding whether or not Iran should be allowed to breech the non-prolif treaty with impunity. That is quite a stretch.To defend Zionism you are defending hate towards anyone who is not a Jew and who does not share the Zionist point of view.
Where did you manage to find this densely packed crock of false information?Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!
In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.
In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.
So, who is the danger to world peace?
BS
Wrong. There is no war with Iran, so they are reflecting the will of the people right now.And like here, the governments are still not reflecting the will of the people, as in Israel where over 60% do not support a war with Iran.
Can't speculate on the future. Circumstances change and opinions change.
Is your problem with Netanyahu that he's ignorant or that he's a Zionist, because almost all Jews are Zionists (meaning we believe very fundamentally that we have the right to a national homeland in our historical homeland. Most of the world agrees, and if you don't then you're arguing that Jews are the only group of people who self-identify as a nation (not just a religion) who somehow DON'T have the right to self-determination.Netenyahu is trying to get support from the U.S on Iran with spreading half truths about Persians to the world.
On his visit to the U.S he provided a gift to Obama which is called the Scroll of Esther (which is a tale about a Jewish beauty charming a Persian king into foiling a plot of a Kings Advisor genecidal plans against the Jews) but what he forgot to tell Obama and the world is that the existence of the Jews is somewhat owed to the great Persian king Cyrus The Great and the Cylinder of Cyrus The Great which is also known as the Declaration of Human Rights which is over 2500 years old.
Anyone who knows a little bit about history of the Persian empire or Judaism should know this.
Cyrus the Great is mentioned 23 times by name in the hebrew bible (old testament). Cyrust The Great the king of Persia was the king under whom the captivity of the Jews ended, in his first year of his reign he set a decree that the Temple of Jerusalem should be rebuilt and that the Jews should return to their land for this purpose.
Cyrus The Great after capturing Babylon freed the Jews and gave them safe passage to return to Jerusalem.
Israel is trying to maintain its nuclear hegemony in the region by attacking Iran and also trying to make this a war of cultures and people what a shame.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/netanyahus-gift-obama-tale-persian-plot-001001019.html
I happen to agree that Netanyahu is a jerk but then again so do a lot of Israelis. But he isn't a jerk for believing that Jews deserve a country.
By the way, many Jews do learn about Cyrus the Great and while we don't name our kids after him the way we would with Alexander the Great, we're good with Persia and we know that the diaspora in Ancient Persia was good (which is why not all of us left Persia!). But we're NOT good with anyone who wants to kill or convert us, individually or en masse and since we have a lot of experience with that we're naturally gonna get our backs up in the face of threats. That is the story of the Book of Esther.
I don't think that ancient events are an important factor, but Netenyahu does as he is trying to persuade the Americans with the argument that Persians wanted to get rid of us then and they do now. He is trying to make this a war of cultures and people against each other which is truly a shame.You clearly misunderstand zionism. You also seem to think that ancient events are important is deciding whether or not Iran should be allowed to breech the non-prolif treaty with impunity. That is quite a stretch.
His facts are not solely true either as the existence of the Jews is somewhat owed to the great Persian king Cyrus The Great and the Cylinder of Cyrus The Great which is also known as the Declaration of Human Rights which is over 2500 years old.
Cyrus the Great is mentioned 23 times by name in the hebrew bible (old testament). Cyrust The Great the king of Persia was the king under whom the captivity of the Jews ended, in his first year of his reign he set a decree that the Temple of Jerusalem should be rebuilt and that the Jews should return to their land for this purpose.
Cyrus The Great after capturing Babylon freed the Jews and gave them safe passage to return to Jerusalem.
You really are way too funny. Are you somehow equating ancient Persia and the Islamic Nation of Iran and suggesting that the Jews should somehow owe their existence to Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs. Islam did not exit during the time of Cyrus and would not until several hundred years later. Way way too funny.I don't think that ancient events are an important factor, but Netenyahu does as he is trying to persuade the Americans with the argument that Persians wanted to get rid of us then and they do now. He is trying to make this a war of cultures and people against each other which is truly a shame.
His facts are not solely true either as the existence of the Jews is somewhat owed to the great Persian king Cyrus The Great and the Cylinder of Cyrus The Great which is also known as the Declaration of Human Rights which is over 2500 years old.
Cyrus the Great is mentioned 23 times by name in the hebrew bible (old testament). Cyrust The Great the king of Persia was the king under whom the captivity of the Jews ended, in his first year of his reign he set a decree that the Temple of Jerusalem should be rebuilt and that the Jews should return to their land for this purpose.
Cyrus The Great after capturing Babylon freed the Jews and gave them safe passage to return to Jerusalem.
You really need to learn how to read.You really are way too funny. Are you somehow equating ancient Persia and the Islamic Nation of Iran and suggesting that the Jews should somehow owe their existence to Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs. Islam did not exit during the time of Cyrus and would not until several hundred years later. Way way too funny.
Read the first post in this thread and then the one you are referring to. Its not me who is trying to do this but Netenyahu unless you are unaware of the gift he provided to Obama while on his last visit.
The problem is that letting the Jews dictate their religion to others by where the live because they believe that is their right and at the same time denying the same right to others (Palestinians) is the problem itself.Is your problem with Netanyahu that he's ignorant or that he's a Zionist, because almost all Jews are Zionists (meaning we believe very fundamentally that we have the right to a national homeland in our historical homeland. Most of the world agrees, and if you don't then you're arguing that Jews are the only group of people who self-identify as a nation (not just a religion) who somehow DON'T have the right to self-determination.
I happen to agree that Netanyahu is a jerk but then again so do a lot of Israelis. But he isn't a jerk for believing that Jews deserve a country.
By the way, many Jews do learn about Cyrus the Great and while we don't name our kids after him the way we would with Alexander the Great, we're good with Persia and we know that the diaspora in Ancient Persia was good (which is why not all of us left Persia!). But we're NOT good with anyone who wants to kill or convert us, individually or en masse and since we have a lot of experience with that we're naturally gonna get our backs up in the face of threats. That is the story of the Book of Esther.
How is that in anyway just?
