it's you who opened a thread claiming without evidence that hunter was taking bribe money for Joe. Hunter's dead brother has fuck all to do with this.
More Hunter Biden Bribe taking for Dad.
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So the other options are Joe, long time Senator and VP, was too stupid despite say 35 + years in Washington to see the obvious going on in his own family, or did know, and looked away, enabling his son to falsely promise lobbying ability for money, basically enabling criminal fraud. And those are THE BEST case scenarios.
Which do you prefer, there is no innocence here.
there is no fraud in sitting on a company board looking important because of your last name, much less criminal fraud
it is bad optics, yes, which is why joe made hunter quit
And who is the big guy? Is there any proof it's Joe, or that he actually got any money?
Here's a funny thing: James Comer and Gym Jordan released their impeachment report...and didn't call for impeachment.
So, you're saying that after all those witnesses and evidence, they didn't find an iota of wrong doing by Joe. No evidence to support this bogus argument.
This means one of two things: This is a big nothing burger and they wasted time and money to slander Biden....or they are incompetent and couldn't find anything.
My take is that its both....mostly because there was nothing there. And, now that Biden has dropped out of the race, it doesn't help Trump by trying to impeach him during the election....Which also shows that this was a genuine political witch hunt....
To be honest, I think you're probably right. I'd be shocked if Joe didn't pardon Hunter. But, I don't think this proves any quid pro quo or any of that bullshit. But, it could also depend on how long the sentence is.
But, let's look at the long list of folks Trump pardoned in his final days. War criminals, everyone related to his campaigns that were convicted (Manifore, Flynn, Bannon). Hell, he said he'd probably pardon the January 6th goofs. From the way the demented idiot is talking, he'd pardon Hannibal Lecter....
So all Presidents pardon a list of people who either don't deserve it, or pay for them. Or for favors. It's so common the press only does a bit on it and allows it to fade. I agree Trump did a crapload too.
My point is, as always, to stop lionizing or vilifying by party. Because they really are a uni-party on so much.
I think the proof is in the fact Hunter did these things, too many times, for it not to be a pattern of behavior Joe knew about. And I believe enriching family members is just as bad. It's that simple.
It's because the corruption laws burden of proof are so watered down now it's almost impossible to get charges.
Guess who made those laws? Both parties.
He was on the way out. How was presumed to a top pick after Obama, until Clinton did her DNC take over and cleared the field before the primary. That's why he was on the board. His compensation dwindled, look it up. And his drug use was at an all time high.
Remember Joe was also the "Ukraine czar" under Obama. If the optics were bad, why did he let him take the job when he was VP in the first place, especially if, as you say, he can force him on it?
All of the federal laws that cover things like bribery, lobbying, etc. They have pretty much set them up so a politician has to literally take the proverbial envelope of cash to see charges.
When was the last time they faced charges? Well one actually took gold bars recently and got busted but beyond that considering how rich many of them are, and investigations are sparce, think about it.
Federal prosecution of public corruption in the United States - Wikipedia
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You're quite well versed regarding the employment of Wikipedia to provide cover for your obvious lack of knowledge regarding this topic that you proclaim supreme knowledge of, now, aren't you?.Federal prosecution of public corruption in the United States - Wikipedia
Quite well versed in time wasters demanding links when an opinion is expressed. Have fun!
As far as I can see Hunter Biden pled guilty to tax evasion there was no mention of bribes or promises of access to the Whitehouse. So again more bs from the right wing fake news.
None has been presented.
He is.
That's how he knows Biden did it.
It would still help Trump, just not nearly as much.
Since they were doing so badly at it when the ROI was higher, there just isn't much point in putting effort in now.
I think it would depend a lot on what kind of sentence he got.
Fines and some kind of suspension from certain activities, community service, etc... no pardon.
Hell, even prison time on some kind of part-time basis probably no pardon.
The judge going for consecutive sentences and giving him 10+ years?
Pardon.
Yes, he is, but he's only partially wrong here.
The issue with bribery basically being impossible to prosecute now isn't an issue of the laws - it's the Supreme Court.
They ruled that the laws can only apply when it is basically so obvious that there was a quid pro quo that it effectively makes bribery impossible to prove.
The fact that many on the Supreme Court are taking bribes probably has nothing to do with this. How dare you think that.
