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What exactly is the safety net you speak of?

Welfare pays next to nothing and no one wants to live in government housing.

It seems refugees and new immigrants get a bigger free ride, living in hotels and kids being able to attend university on a free ride.
Most of the people on welfare are born right here in Canada. These able bodied Canadians are on average more obese than the general population, but choose not to work for various reasons, but some are sex workers.
Those on welfare born in Canada have free University or College but don’t seem to go to higher education as much as refugees or newcomers for do for whatever reasons.
In some respects, Canada is a nanny state for many people sustained by the social safety net .
 

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Most of the people on welfare are born right here in Canada. These able bodied Canadians are on average more obese than the general population, but choose not to work for various reasons, but some are sex workers.
Those on welfare born in Canada have free University or College but don’t seem to go to higher education as much as refugees or newcomers for do for whatever reasons.
In some respects, Canada is a nanny state for many people sustained by the social safety net .
Easier to manipulate and control. Keeping people dependent is big money.
 

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The ones in Cuba suck dick for chicken, bread and apples. The ones in North America tend to suck dick for smokes, weed, booze, adult toys, toys for their kids, new clothes, new shoes, tattoos, etc. Canada already has lots of charities setup to find amazing clothes for less like church giveaways or thrift stores even selling gently used designer brands at low prices. The high end escorts typically want funds for their lifestyle clearly ie. luxury place to live, travel, better vehicle, etc. Either way there's hardly much of a difference when it comes down to actual service typically since it's hit or miss cause you in general paying for the view. The SP living in public housing might charge less or the average and the one in a luxury condo generally would want more cause of her expenses and based on if she has other streams of income coming in. I'd say the general increase in SPs would heavily depend on their wants or debt situation.
 
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Easier to manipulate and control. Keeping people dependent is big money.
Wrong. These people in general have a choice to go to a grocery store and buy whole foods and cook. Last time I checked a bag of potatoes and carrots along with other things don't cost as much. If they are constantly eating processed things and junk nobody forced them to did they? A bunch of marketing telling uneducated folks this is great for them when many others eat that stuff in moderation or a lot less to none. How many also spend hours not working and just glued on electronics or doing a bit of socializing while enjoying a certain substance. In regards to stress/anxiety because perhaps they get crapped on at work they could have gone to school and focused and better themself like others in welfare who bettered themself or immigrants who tend to bust their butt to make it in North America. The impact overly chemical foods have on the brain is well known. People like that have the choice to get up in the morning and boil water to make very simple healthy meals or use an oven to roast things. The ones who don't push themself or learn how to sell to other consumers stay generally where they are. There's lots of stories about people who made it out of poverty. As for some kids with brain development issues because mommy and daddy took substances and had unplanned kids well blame mommy and daddy for those bad choices. Once again did they not have the free will choice of not buying booze or have unprotected sex? The comment on hand doesn't even relate to those who are against abortion or those who were raped and still wanted to have kids. Those numbers in general I'd say are relatively lower than others making bad choices in life. I also worked my way out of poverty along with at times working min wage jobs. The amount of adults still buying heavily chemical infested junk like gummy candy and chocolate bars then laugh about it. Then they bitch about their dental and other health and expect government handouts along with others who are wealthier to help them out often.

People overly listening to hip hop music for example are choosing to listen to that music constantly then being brainwashed to show off and such. Once again go listen to other genres of music relating positive messages then. And there are people who later on in life realize that and make changes compared to others.
 
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And the dog stays, right?
Sorry I missed this. XD no, she literally rehomed the dog. And now wants a puppy for $300. I cracked up so hard. She'll blow another $300 or so and could be in the same situation again. She's one of those SBs who told me she has debt in some areas, but will still spend funds from a SD on other things and then keep crying XDDDD.
 

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Yes, I've seen the first two movies years ago. Still funny about her situation. Oh well, end of the day her and I both get what we want out of an arrangement. She vented a few things to me already online and I didn't care much to give an input when people like that don't take the advice. I'll see how long I decide to hang out with her.
 

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As someone who has been doing this for a while (10 years +) hobbying scene in Toronto is probably worse than it has ever been. Prices have become somewhat prohibitive (not that I blame the girls or agencies at all for raising them) and many of the main agencies have girls who have been around quite a while (too long) and are more pros at this point.

Anyone who was around for the golden days of Mirage and Roommates will know what I am talking about - new to industry girls all the time, no shortage of options and at 150/hh.

Even a few years ago HPL was coming up with many new fresh gems all the time but not so much anymore.

Likely to do with OF and SBabying.
Totally agree, from about 2008 to 2015 was the golden age, heard it was even better, when all the eastern European girls were coming over but that was before my time.

I remember mirage was a revolving door of young 19 to 21 hotties providing great service. Girls like Jana, thin, pretty, with amazing perky double d's and Jade, who looked like a young Britney spears.

Now it's all girls in there late 20's and early 30's all being advertised as 22-24. Most are a bit chubby and with too many tattoos. All the while prices have gone way up.

Don't really see a lot of young hotties on sugar baby sites, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong sites. I definitely notice the current way to rake in the money if you're young and hot is to start posting thirst traps on Instagram until you have a big following and then launch the OF. No need for girls to have to let some ugly older guys grope them.

Kind of feel sorry for the average younger dude these days who's just starting to make some good money in there career. No real options for having fun with young hot college girls that they never got when they were heads down studying. Now the only option is to jerk off to through a screen.
 

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if you do a search on Tryst you get 570 Toronto escorts, I seem to recall that used to be in the low 500s a while ago, so not a huge increase in terms of an index.
 

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if you do a search on Tryst you get 570 Toronto escorts, I seem to recall that used to be in the low 500s a while ago, so not a huge increase in terms of an index.
I don’t even get where this talk about increased numbers is coming from. Outcall agencies don’t look better than before and neither does seeking.
 

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Most of the people on welfare are born right here in Canada. These able bodied Canadians are on average more obese than the general population, but choose not to work for various reasons, but some are sex workers.
Those on welfare born in Canada have free University or College but don’t seem to go to higher education as much as refugees or newcomers for do for whatever reasons.
In some respects, Canada is a nanny state for many people sustained by the social safety net .
Canadians on welfare, don't get free University or College. They will qualify for OSAP and they use to get some grants.

Compare that to refugees from Ukraine, who have children that are enrolled in University and getting an allowance to boot. My friends's daughter goes to Brock University, I am sure this is happening all over.

Welfare in Ontario is $733, not sure how you can live off that. Considering $100K per annum is nothing special.
 

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Canadians on welfare, don't get free University or College. They will qualify for OSAP and they use to get some grants.

Compare that to refugees from Ukraine, who have children that are enrolled in University and getting an allowance to boot. My friends's daughter goes to Brock University, I am sure this is happening all over.

Welfare in Ontario is $733, not sure how you can live off that. Considering $100K per annum is nothing special.
Ontario residents on Ontario Works often are not required to pay back an OSAP loan as an incentive for them to study and get employment so that can get taxed and not remain on social assistance.
Canadians begrudge the assistance that refugees receive but the number of refugees is very minimal in comparison to able bodied Canadians on welfare.
 

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Ontario residents on Ontario Works often are not required to pay back an OSAP loan as an incentive for them to study and get employment so that can get taxed and not remain on social assistance.
Canadians begrudge the assistance that refugees receive but the number of refugees is very minimal in comparison to able bodied Canadians on welfare.
What is Ontario works?

You may not begrudge refugees, but loads of Canadians aren't in favour of this. That includes the billions of our tax dollars going to the Ukraine war and things like LBGTQ programs overseas.
 
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Totally agree, from about 2008 to 2015 was the golden age, heard it was even better, when all the eastern European girls were coming over but that was before my time.

I remember mirage was a revolving door of young 19 to 21 hotties providing great service. Girls like Jana, thin, pretty, with amazing perky double d's and Jade, who looked like a young Britney spears.

Now it's all girls in there late 20's and early 30's all being advertised as 22-24. Most are a bit chubby and with too many tattoos. All the while prices have gone way up.

Don't really see a lot of young hotties on sugar baby sites, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong sites. I definitely notice the current way to rake in the money if you're young and hot is to start posting thirst traps on Instagram until you have a big following and then launch the OF. No need for girls to have to let some ugly older guys grope them.

Kind of feel sorry for the average younger dude these days who's just starting to make some good money in there career. No real options for having fun with young hot college girls that they never got when they were heads down studying. Now the only option is to jerk off to through a screen.
Oh yeah young hotties know their worth, thanks to OF and simps paying for that shit. I personally never subscribe to any OF accounts and found it hilarious that people actually pay $40/month just to jerk off to some AI porn. And Yes Seeking is pretty dead now.
 

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The whole OF along with a bunch of other similar sites never appealed to me. It's great that it's working out for the younger 20 year olds and others than having to deal with some +50 year old guys who they really don't wanna deal with in person lol. Some people cringe at guys like that even buying used garments, but I see it solely from a business point of view. Selling for like $50-$100 or more and there's a niche market for it. Most are also meeting guys around their age or 30s through like IG and getting their money worth. I briefly had IG in my late 20s or so and got rid of it. Don't care for the overload with social platforms on a cocaine device (smartphone). I personally find it annoying waking up in the morning to like over 100 notifications, but YMMV. To me it's an overload of short dopamine hits which doesn't bring me much joy overall. If I post a pic and it gets 10 likes or 10K likes meh...if I'm using it as a business to bring in revenue then sure I'd look more into it especially using bots to push things to the top.

Some of the 20 year old hotties are also finding great sugar daddies or older men for relationships they find appealing than having to resort to being a SP. Clearly the better option. Maybe not through sites, but perhaps through their socials and it gives them a chance to view the person's profile/posts to see if they enjoy the individual.
 
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i know there are different slang term for this situation...but when you say "hooker" I am definitely picturing a girl standing on a street corner and making certain assumptions about how she spends the money she gets from this occupation. That does not a t all match the image I have of the girls on here.
 
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