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Modi paying his respects to this Bose individual who fought with the Nazis:

 

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Subhas Chandra Bose was himself a member of the Indian National Congress along with Nehru and Gandhi. So yes, he is just as much revered by everyone in India, as much as Nehru and Gandhi are. Gandhi himself called Bose - "a prince among patriots". Gandhi and Bose deeply respected each other. They just differed on ideology. Same with Bhagat Singh who bombed the Parliament, even he is considered a hero in India. Anyone who used violence or non-violence to fight for India's freedom is revered regardless of which political party they support. So BJP or Congress - Hindu Nationalist or a minority religion or moderate or a liberal - the entirety of India respects all of these people.

Of course Bose brigade fought the allied forces. Duh. He joined the Germans to fight the British. In war that is how it works.

I don't hate the Canadian government. I hate the fact that Canada shelters terrorists and makes excuses for them. And you haven't faced Sikh terrorism? Because most of their attacks are in India, operating out of Canada. Also watch Terry's documentary I posted for violence in Canada. And did you forget the Air India bombing?
Again I mentioned the past two decades that there was no Sikh "Terrorism" on Canadian Soil. Did you forget that the Air India was downed in the Nineties?
So what was the difference with the Ukrainian War Veteran who was battling the Russians and Bose who was fighting the British, but both being aligned with the Nazis?
Ukraine wanted to be Independent from the Russians, just like the Indians did with the British. The Congress had no intention of treating Bose as a war hero, and in fact ejected him from the Party due to a discomfort among the Congress Members. Only then did he take off to Germany to align with the Nazis. So get your facts right. Hitler hated Gandhi due to his peaceful non-violence demonstrations. Bose had those differences and that is why he joined with the Nazis. You keep on making excuses for Modi and his love for autocracy!!
 

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I cannot keep posting it over and over again. I already posted it several times. Why don't you read up a few pages for the link?


Also, in threads about the different conflicts, I was upset at the mistreatment of civilians by an armed force in their bid to take out terrorists. If they just took out an enemy combatant I dont think anyone would complain.
Nobody trusts your source to be legit.
We keep telling you.

Its like posting from Fox news and expecting us to take you seriously.
 

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Canada needs to cooperate with India and designate terrorists, as terrorists instead of sheltering them and enabling them. Problem solved.
That's a bit like saying Canada needs to cooperate with Putin and hand over whoever he calls a terrorist.
 

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He is no Nazi. He is a great Indian Freedom fighter and hero. 🇮🇳
This article disputes that myth of yours:

More and more, however, it became apparent that he put his own personal fortunes above loyalty to the cause, and in the early thirties he was expelled from the movement for his insubordination and secret plotting.

Straightaway Bose attacked the Mahatma as a muddleheaded old mystic, preaching a mealymouthed gospel, and he began the organization of terrorist gangs for the avowed purpose of pillage and massacre. All India was scoured for lawless, desperate men, and to swell his strength, the rabble-rousing Bengali went into the universities and attracted a following of reckless students.

Now began a series of outrages that made Gandhi’s policy of mass disobedience seem tame and futile. Trains were wrecked, buildings fired and mothers cut down by hatchet men as they fought to protect their children. As if to flout the Mahatma’s insistence on nonviolence, there were outright massacres in Bombay, Malabar and the village of Chauri-Chaura, where twenty-one policemen and watchmen were drenched in oil and burned alive.

Prison sentences only served to increase Bose’s popularity with the masses. While in jail, for example, he was elected mayor of Calcutta. By 1938, he was strong enough to win the presidency of the Indian National Congress over Gandhi’s opposition, and would have served a second term but for certain shrewd tactical moves by the Mahatma that forced his resignation. At the outbreak of war, Bose formed an All India Anti-Compromise Congress of his own, and raced up and down the land, screaming that the Empire’s peril was India’s opportunity. Open in his praise for Germany, Italy and Russia, Bose advocated for his country a government that was a combination of Nazism, Communism and Fascism.

That Bose had been in secret communication with Hitler soon stood proved. Fleeing India, he escaped to Berlin and took his place as a stooge of Doctor Goebbels, side by side with the Mufti, Haj Amin El Husseini, the perjured old Arab. Even as the Mufti broadcast to the Moslem world, urging a holy war against the British, so did Bose call on India to rise in revolt, skillfully inferring that the Fuhrer was waging a war in behalf of the world’s subject races.

Pearl Harbor, however, changed the picture. Overnight, Japan became the country that was to give India her independence, with Germany standing by to aid and protect. Plentifully supplied with Nazi funds, Bose made his way to Tokyo and, after conference with Tojo, was sent to Singapore as the best field for his operations. Preaching the war as one between colors, he painted the paradise that would come into being for every native race when the white man was driven out of Asia. Americans, no less than the Dutch, the English and the French, were cruel and rapacious, despite the pretense of democracy.

With the Japanese invasion of Burma and the desperate attempt to capture India’s Imphal Plain, Bose’s activities gained in size and importance. Made a general by Tojo, he formed an Army of Liberation, and is now at the front-not as a fighting man, of course, for he was always careful of his own skin, but as a propagandist. Day in and day out, he broadcasts to India, damning Gandhi and Nehru as false and discredited leaders, and urging the people to kill and burn.

In the hour of Allied victory, it is certain that Subhas Chandra Bose will plead patriotism as his defense. It is a lie and has always been a lie. Repudiated by India’s patriots, the Bengali stands revealed as a criminal type, ever willing to stoop to any baseness out of an insane egoism and passion for power.
 

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This article disputes that myth of yours:



Attempting to pierce the rigid mind of a staunch Indian ultra-Nationalist posing as a so-called liberal democrat in an obvious second rate, shithole country is a fruitless endeavor.
 

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Oh if it was downed in the 80s we can just forget it! Lol.

What about the attacks even today in India? For which evidence was provided to Canada that Canada ignored?

The problem is not with why Hunka joined the Nazis. I could care less. The problem was that he showed up in parliament and was a total lay up to Russian propaganda.

The Congress till this day respects Bose to the extent that we read about him in our schools. Every Indian kid knows about Bose. Wouldn't have been possible without the Congress. Reading a Wikipedia article about Bose and telling an Indian to get his acts straight is grade A lunacy. Let me be the one to educate you. Not the other way around. No one in India cares what Hitler thought. India cares only for its freedom fighters and their sacrifices.

And Modi is no autocrat. He is a democratically elected leader of a country who leads per the rule of law.
Those responsible for the downing of that jet once again were brought to justice or paid the price.
You have no proof about any Sikh terrorism in the past two decades on Canadian soil. Both Hunka and Bose fought alongside the Nazis. Just picking and choosing which is a Nazi makes zero sense and just kautilya logic. The Ukrainians were battling the Soviet Union and did exactly the same as Bose claimed he was doing. But Modi actually honoured the memory of Bose, by building a statue of him, naming a museum in his name. So how are the Ukraine ones who battled for freedom from the Soviet Union and different from Bose? Will not take your "history" over that of the actual facts. If Bose was then guilty of actually committing acts of terrorism prior to embracing Hitler as displayed in that link that I provided then you have no shoulder to stand on!!
 
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Attempting to pierce the rigid mind of a staunch Indian ultra-Nationalist posing as a so-called liberal democrat in an obvious second rate, shithole country is a fruitless endeavor.
True as around the globe the likes of Gandhi and Nehru are treated with full respect for their beliefs in Peaceful Protests that eventually brought India their Independence from The Great Britain. The likes of Nelson Mandela and other leaders then followed in their footsteps to achieve their goals. But Modi is not interested in such peaceful means and no wonder that crimes and violence against minority religions is on the rise in India. Obviously, only kautilya tends to ignore these facts by labelling them as just "outlier" incidents!!
 

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Irrelevant. It is a western article with a Eurocentric world view that does not apply to India. Only the Indian point of view matters on this.
Just like the Putinesque view matters for Ukraine, and the Xi ones for China!! 😅 😂:ROFLMAO:
 
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Except Putin is a dictator invading countries whereas Modi is a democratic leader who is trying to secure India's national security from terrorists sheltered by Trudeau.
Except that the real terrorists are the ones burning down churches, parading raped Christian women on the streets, demolishing homes of minority Christians and the killing of hundreds of Christians and Muslims!!
 

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Nobody trusts your source to be legit.
We keep telling you.

Its like posting from Fox news and expecting us to take you seriously.
We know that India and Russia are taking full advantage of that Hunka visit and have blown it out of proportion. But Hunka was no different from Bose who did the same for India. Here is the other side of the coin with respect to Hunka's visit:

Fighting against the USSR didn’t necessarily make you a Nazi
Canada’s Hunka scandal is a demonstration of how when history is complicated, it can be a gift to propagandists who exploit the appeal of simplicity.

 

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There is tons of proof. Some of which I posted on this thread. There is even more evidence of targeted killings and assassinations that Khalistani terrorists have indulged in. Watch Terry's documentary on this thread and you will see tons of evidence of violence in Canada by these extremists.

Hunka is European and from a part of the world with a history of antisemitism. Bose is from India which is the most pro-Israel country in the world. So Hunka joining the Nazis means something entirely different from Bose joining the Nazis. Hunka is a Nazi. Bose is a freedom fighter who was trying to free his country from colonialism using means he had at his disposal. Contexts and histories matter.

Therefore the next time you go to India be sure to salute Bose's statue. And the next time you see Trudeau tell him he is an idiot for allowing a Nazi in parliament.
You have not posted any truth, and just the Modi propaganda. Watch the BBC Documentary during Modi's tenor as the Gujarat CM and you will see exactly how he is linked to those committing those acts of terrorism. He should be fully accountable, as the BBC really exposed it all.

When I visited India, I saw Nazi symbols on doors and doorsteps. Very similar to this article:


The RSS is very similar in it's teachings when compared to the Nazis:


Again get your facts right. Hunka was invited by the Speaker of the House and had to resign as a result. He accepted full responsibility for it. The real idiot who idolizes Bose who carried out those acts of terrorism prior to fighting alongside the Nazis is the one who is the real idiot. Thankfully, I do not have to live in that nation with him in power. Maybe you should go and join him in India.
 
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I cannot keep posting it over and over again. I already posted it several times. Why don't you read up a few pages for the link?


Also, in threads about the different conflicts, I was upset at the mistreatment of civilians by an armed force in their bid to take out terrorists. If they just took out an enemy combatant I dont think anyone would complain.
Gee, I see lots of "alleged" in that article. No wonder Canada didn't act on the accusations.

And you sure don't seem to care about Canadian civilians if they support an independent Sikh state.
 

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Canada needs to cooperate with India and designate terrorists, as terrorists instead of sheltering them and enabling them. Problem solved.
And maybe you think Canada should cooperate with China and designate the Dalai Lama as a terrorist.

From what I've seen, Canada's terrorist designation is done in as apolitically way as possible and there are Sikh groups on that list. You just seem upset that Canada refuses to designate political activists as terrorists without evidence of terrorist activities.
 

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Canada went public with something that they shouldn't have....
Wait, Isn't Canada a free country? You claim that the Sikh independence movement is a purely internal Indian issue so why do you think Canada shouldn't be allowed to comment when the press leaks about a Canadian citizen being killed in Canada.
 

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He is no Nazi. He is a great Indian Freedom fighter and hero. 🇮🇳
Hmm. Spends WWII hiding in Nazi Germany and working with Nazis to influence Indian politics.

p.s. You were disgusted that Trudeau because the Speaker invited a Waffen SS vet to Parliament so why are you so supportive of Bose's participation in the same Waffen SS?
 
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