Modi scolds Trudeau over Sikh protests in Canada against India

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Contexts and histories matter. Nazism and holocaust is European and Western history. India is a non-Western country. Bose wanted to fight the British to free India and defeat colonialism. So he is and is rightfully regarded a national hero.

I'm sure Ukrainians who fought for the Nazis say the same thing.

And yes, it's pretty moronic for you to shit on Canada for accidentally honouring a Waffen SS private while you and India celebrate a Waffen SS commander.

 

[basketcase]

It WAS an Indian internal issue and ...

Yep, that's exactly what Bose's buddies in Germany claimed.

 

[basketcase]

Canadian citizens do not have a right to ask for India's breakup much less act on it.

So now you are saying that Canadian citizens aren't allowed to share their opinions on international issues? I guess we can ask the mods to shut down the whole politics and international affairs part of the forum.

And sorry but that standard also means that if you are a Canadian citizen, you also have no right to talk about what's happening in India.

 

[basketcase]

It has details of the dossier provided by India to Canada,...

You demand Canada and the 5 eyes release all their evidence about the Indian assassins yet refuse to share with us any of the content of India's allegations. What a surprise.

 

[basketcase]

Nazism is western history and a western ideal. It is not an Indian ideal. India is a non-western country. Therefore, despite why Hunka joined the Waffen SS, he should not have been brought to the Canadian parliament which is a western country. Bose on the other hand, fought with the Nazis to free India from the British. Therefore he is a national hero.

Wow that's a dumb justification for your hero working directly with the Nazis. Ultra-nationalistic hatred from a totalitarian leadership is NOT just a western thing.

BTW. Ukrainian Waffen SS fought with Nazi Germany to free the Ukraine from the soviets. Is that any different?

 

[basketcase]

What are you talking about? Bose is from the 1930s and 40s who fought the British. My comment you are responding to is about the Khalistanis. Both have nothing to do with each other.

Sorry pal, you should really try to learn some history. Bose' buddies claimed that their slaughter of ethnic minorities was a purely internal matter. Bose' Nazi buddies butchered some 6 million people of other ethnicities that they wanted to use as scapegoats. You can see where Bose and his ultra-nationalists learned from during the slaughter and forced deportations in 1947.

 

[basketcase]

I dont have access to either. I dont work for either government. Between Canada and India, only India has released contents of the dossier that was provided to Canada, that proves Nijjar is a terrorist. So far what we have from Canada is hot air.

Yet you blindly believe Indian evidence you haven't seen while rejecting Canadian and 5 eye intelligence. Are you incapable of seeing the contradiction?

 

[basketcase]

Fighting a colonial oppressor is not ultra-nationalism....

No but Bose and his followers are/were.

The only difference between the Waffen SS private you're freaked out about and Waffen SS commander you idolize is their rank.

 

[bver_hunter]

The violence used to be much much more during Congress's rule. There is more law and order today. It is just the liberal western media that loves to shit on Modi because he is a right winger.

There is no discrimination of minorities. If you are referring to the citizenship amendment act, it does not apply to Indian citizens. It applies to citizens of other countries who want to become Indian citizens. Indian citizens are not discriminated by state law.

I posted about the discrimination in favour of just the Hindu majorities in Manipur as far as education and job opportunities. Not sure why you are bringing the citizen rule into the mix!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Bose and his followers were Indian, fighting the British. Anti-semitism is a western ideal. Not an Indian one. So Hunka as an European, coming form a part of the world that is known for anti-semitism, joining the Nazis has an entirely different meaning from Bose fighting the British as a guy wanting to free his country from colonial oppressors.

Bose fought alongside the Nazis against the French Resistance as well as the British forces. Hunka did exactly the same against the Soviet Union.
Cannot just pick and choose!!

 

[bver_hunter]

If you are referring to what is coming out of your mouth, then yes. I agree.

To someone who trusts the Modi Government over the Five Eyes Intelligence Agencies......... Hilarious!!

Western intelligence led to Canada accusing India of Sikh activist’s assassination, US Ambassador says

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/24/americas/canada-five-eyes-india-hardeep-singh-nijjar-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[bver_hunter]

There is no discrimination there. This was essentially a clash between two tribal peoples over affirmative action, caste status and land disputes.

Besides education and jobs in BJP States like Manipur, there has also been discrimination against Christians and Muslims nationally with these laws:

"Government actions, including the passage and enforcement of discriminatory policies such as hijab bans, anti-conversion laws, and anti-cow slaughter laws, have created a culture of impunity for threats and violence by vigilante groups, especially against Muslims and Christians," Rabbi Abraham Cooper, chairman of U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, said during recent congressional testimony.

Hindu Mobs Destroy 300 Churches as Indian Govt Fueling 'Serious Religious Persecution'

A fierce battle between Hindus and Christians is raging in a remote part of northeast India with some human rights experts blaming the country's government for fueling the religious violence.

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[bver_hunter]

This tells me how ignorant you really are. You know nothing about what you are yammering on about. The Hindu tribe wanted ST status and was given ST status. That is not discrimination against someone. This is more about land rights, political representation, affirmative action etc.,

So you are okay for discrimination against the minority Christians. Explains it all with your real ignorance and hatred against the minority religions!!

 

[bver_hunter]

The same intelligence that led to inaction, which resulted in the Air India bombing. Yeah, right. The Five Eyes and their intel on this matter is useless. They should go back to tracking ISIS and other middle eastern groups and leave this one to India.

So you are like Trump who took the word of Putin over his own Intel Agencies.......LOL!!

Obviously, you love Modi and prefer him to the Canadian Government. He is not trustworthy and we should all be supporting our Government in this respect!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Cow slaughter laws have been there forever, but yes I agree that is nonsensical. But that particular law is state law, not federal. So there are state where beef is fully legal and there are others where it is fully illegal. And Hijabs cannot be banned. Its protected by Indian law. Indian law allows for Sharia. So again some nonsensical western article that knows nothing. The anti-conversion laws are actually correct. There are missionaries that will pay people money to convert religion (usually very poor). Thats scummy.

In this case of Manipur, it is not discrimination. It is essentially a fight between 2 tribes over politics. Nothing to do with Hindu Nationalism or the BJP.

You are relaying the MODI perspective. I will take the word of that Christian link versus yours and Modi's. Modi wants a total ban on cow slaughter etc. Why on earth did Modi take two months to condemn the hideous crimes in Manipur including the burning of the 300 churches, forceful parading of raped naked Christian women especially as the Congress' Gandhi condemned him for delaying it? Stop making excuses for what Modi stands for!!

 

[bver_hunter]

No Modi is a democratically elected leader of a country, that knows what it is talking about. Canada on the other hand, allowed 329 people, 288 of them Canadians to die because they turned their backs on India's warnings. So Canada should learn from India and Canadians should suspend their adulation of their dear leader Trudeau and wake the fuck up.

Was Trudeau the PM during the downing of the Air India jet? What are you waffling about? Remember that the majority of those killed were Canadian citizens on that jet.
Yet hundreds of citizens are being killed, raped and churches and homes are being destroyed, in real terrorist actions including the previous ones in Gujarat under Modi's watch. The Christians, Muslims and other minorities are confirming that Modi is the one fuelling these acts of violence and is very passive when it comes to condemning them. In fact the perpetrators of those acts are pardoned and even given some elevated status within the ruling BJP Party!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Cow slaughter laws are state laws, not federal. Modi belongs to the BJP which is also the ruling party in Manipur. There are political reasons why politicians say or dont say things. It doesnt mean Modi is sitting there salivating at the idea of churches being burnt. What a nonsensical and unintelligent accusation.

This is from the horse's mouth:

India's opposition leader Rahul Gandhi condemns the Modi government over violence in Manipur

India's top opposition leader unleashed a strong condemnation Wednesday of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government for its failure to control bloodshed in a remote northeastern state that he said has been split in two.


Rahul Gandhi told Parliament that the army should have been able to stop the bloodshed already. But despite the presence of troops in Manipur, the violence has festered for over three months. More than 150 people have died in Manipur and over 50,000 people have fled in fear since clashes erupted in early May.

"The army can restore peace in a day. You are not using the army," Gandhi said, and called for the firing of the state government run by Modi's Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

Gandhi, who was reinstated as a lawmaker three days after the country's top court halted his criminal defamation conviction for mocking the prime minister's surname, was participating in a debate on a no-confidence motion moved by the opposition against the Modi government in the lower house of India's Parliament. A vote is expected on Thursday.

Gandhi accused the Modi government of killing the spirit of India in Manipur state by silencing people's voices. He also accused Modi of choosing silence while Manipur state burned creating a situation of civil war.

That led to an uproar as Modi's party objected to Gandhi's criticisms. Kiren Rijiju, Minister of Earth Sciences, demanded an apology.

India's opposition leader Rahul Gandhi condemns the Modi government over violence in Manipur

India's top opposition leader unleashed a strong condemnation Wednesday of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government for its failure to control bloodshed in a remote northeastern state that he said has been split in two.

www.ctvnews.ca

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You are just so biased towards Modi. Of course he is salivating while these dangerous acts of terrorism are occurring. Just like he did when he was the CM in Gujarat. The BBC Documentary was dead accurate as to who he really is!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Yes Trudeau was. Pierre Trudeau. And now who is the PM? His son. Like father, like son I suppose. Yeah it was Canadian citizens. Thats my whole point. What is a more real terrorist attack than a plane being bombed? It was the deadliest plane terror attack second only to 9/11.

100% Wrong!! Air India Jet was downed in 1985. the PM from 1984 to 1993 was BRIAN MULRONEY!! Get you facts straight for once!! You are just displaying your hatred for the Trudeaus and blaming them for the biggest act of terrorism against Canadian citizens.

Religious riots in India is crime. Not terrorism. And it is few and far between.

Burning of 300 churches, destroying homes of thousands of Christians, violently raping and parading Christian women is not considered as "Crimes"?? Really!!
Ohhhh dear, you are a lost cause!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Rahul Gandhi lol. The most inept and idiotic politicians ever. Of course he is going to condemn the ruling party as he is opposition. You are rehashing the same shit again. I already told you that the violence is between 2 tribes over politics and not religion. Its ridiculous to say that Modi wants 2 tribes to fight to the death. Give your head a shake.

Just go back and live in a Nation that you adore, while condemning the country that you immigrated to!! Again you are a lost cause!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Or you can tell your dear leader Trudeau to snap out of it and grow a pair and call these Khalistanis out for who they are. Terrorists.

You were proven to have got your facts WRONG with respect to the PM under whose watch the Air India jet got downed. If you get these basic facts wrong, then it is laughable to trust you with now trying to prove that our PM is somehow linked to "Terrorists"!!