Michigan Cop shoots non compliant motorist in head.
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There were 6 officer involved shootings by Toronto Police in 2021 out of 684,377 calls they attended. The Police are out of control!
It's obvious that you and basketcase have never been in a fight.
Both of you should sign up at a boxing gym or go to a martial arts class, which is a controlled environment where you are supervised and use safety equipment, and take some sparring lessons. You'll find out quickly what it's like to take a punch and how little force is required to knock your block off even when you're wearing padded equipment, or how even how weighing an extra 10 lbs is an advantage. Maybe if you stick with it, you'll improve your level of fitness and also learn how many mistakes you make, even under low pressure where your life isn't really at risk. Maybe after that you'll stop being an armchair general about circumstances where guys are in REAL fights for their lives.
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How much clearer than "get back in the car" could he have been.
IMO, this guy was intent on not obeying anything.
The cop also explained that the plates were not on the proper car.
Which is probably why the officer should have controlled the situation from beginning, instead of letting is spiral to it’s absurd conclusion…
The officer never even warned the guy he would shoot…. Mind you, by that time he was physically exhausted fighting a guy who just trying to prevent himself from being tasered.
The guy ran at a traffic stop. The officer should have waited for back up and rounded him up safely later. With back up.
Why did the officer try to use a taser in arms reach of the guy…?
If you are only judging this by the last 10 seconds, then you can make a great case that lethal force was required. But judging by how fast the cop lost control of the situation, he is not a great cop.
And the Americans fought a civil war, won independence, and created a constitution giving citizens the rights to defend themselves in court. They literally fought the British to stop the kind of thing that happened here.
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Yet another guy who has never been in a fight.
Officer was dealing with someone who had committed an arrestable offence.
Explain how he could round him up later when the suspect provided no identification and no way he could be checked because he was using the wrong plate?
You think the suspect is going to drive away normally? You would take a totally different point of view if this guy hit you without insurance running from the cop causing you a permanent lifetime injury or death when all you were doing was driving to work or visiting your mother. Then you'd be the first to say "Why did the officer let him go?" "He knew he was committing an arrestable offence!" "What am I supposed to do now?" "Sure I can sue him, but he ain't got no money because if he did, he would have been driving an insured car with the correct plate."
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And what exactly does this have to do with what I was saying? Cops are and should be held to a higher standard of behaviour.
Yet those 5'2 cops seem to be able to do their job without shooting anyone. You just reinforce the cop involved was poorly trained since he chose to engage physically with a more powerful person when there was absolutely no need to do so. Guy couldn't even use the taser properly.
He starts telling the guy to get back in the car then changes his mind to start talking to the guy. Then he tells the guy to get his licence from the car. The person in the car didn't know where the wallet is so it sure appears that he was going to the other side of the car to get it. This is when the cop chose to go physical.
Obviously people should listen to lawful orders from police but it's not surprising that someone who was a war refugee might be hesitant about being grabbed by a cop.
And the video I posted was an analysis from a guy with huge security background who has trained cops on their jobs. His opinion is worth at least considering. I have no doubt that any investigation will find the cop's actions legal but that doesn't change the fact that his actions could have easily prevented the situation.
You need to learn to use the internet.
You further reinforce that you've never been in a fight because you have no idea what happens when you get into one. You just sit back and criticize instead of actually learning how to do something like taking up a martial art and finding out first hand how hard it is to fight.
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Cop made a lawful stop for an arrestable offence. None of the cop's actions were unethical, unprofessional or legally wrong with the cop's conduct. Just because you find if offensive doesn't mean the cop did anything wrong.
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“Beau of The Fifth Column” trained cops? And has a “huge security background”?
LOL not likely.
“Beau” (not his real name) was arrested in 2004 along with three Russian nationals of running a human trafficking ring in Florida when he was 23 years old. Bringing in hundreds of young Eastern European women under the guise of hostess and modeling jobs, etc, holding their passports, charging exorbitant sums for their flights, accommodations, security, forcing them to work off the money at hotels and motels as cleaners/housekeepers. Speculation of sex trafficking but that could not be proved.
He was convicted on eight federal felony charges in 2008 @ 27 years old.
So when exactly did he train cops?
While working odd jobs after he quit high school? Or while he was busy trafficking young women? Or since he was released from federal prison?
I’ve never heard of convicted felons with absolutely no law enforcement background training cops on how to do their jobs and take down suspects.
This guy’s videos keep popping up on TERB, some of you seem to be in awe of him. Which is fine as long as you and your pals know he’s a lying POS.
He calls himself a so called “journalist” since his release from prison. Talks a big story about his military contracts and security background, it’s all fabricated nonsense. There’s even been accusations of stolen valor.
He’s reinvented himself with a FAKE YouTube nickname and a FAKE southern drawl to sound folksy and believable to his gullible viewers.
In real life he is an alt-left anarchist with media ties to Russia and dreams of overthrowing the government.
“The Fifth Column”: clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation's solidarity by any means at their disposal.
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Yes, there has been a slight move in the right direction of prosecution, but as this thread shows, the bias towards authoritarianism remains strong.
I'm sure you've also seen the backlash any moves towards accountability have created, with people blaming the rise in crime on the "defund the police" slogan and the "Furgeson effect".
We're not talking about Toronto cops, though. I am glad they have less of a problem with this.
The question remains whether or not people will automatically assume all shootings by cops are righteous in Toronto. (I don't know, but it certainly seems it would be considered true by most people on this board.)
LOL.
Just admit you feel cops can shoot anyone they want to at any time.
I'm not sure why you are going through these elaborate hoops to defend your position.
If a cop feels threatened, they can kill the person.
You are fine with this, apparently.
I am not.
I'm glad you'd be able to handle every situation without the use of deadly force. You'd make a great Cop. Although, you may not live too long. You do know that criminals have no problem trying to kill Cops?
5 NYPD officers have been shot since the start of 2022, 4 in a span of just 72 hours
https://abc7ny.com/nyc-gun-violence-nypd-officers-shot-new-york-city-shootings/11498482/
The guy seemed to me to be either;
1. High on something and not comprehending what the cop was saying. Cop actually asked him if he spoke english.
2. Mentally challenged therefore not being able to comprehend the situation.
3. New he was caught doing something, purposely acted dumb and confused trying to deflect the cop but the cop was laser focused and wasn't going to be distracted .
In situation 1 or 3, the cop is reasonable to feel his life is at stake once things got physical.
In situation 2 then the whole thing is sad but how does the cop know?
I wouldn't have got physical until backup came as there was another guy in the car as well. Being outnumbered with a guy who is clearly not responding and then allowing it to get physical wasn't smart but we are viewing from comfort if our couch, cop had to make decisions on the fly .
1. High on something and not comprehending what the cop was saying. Cop actually asked him if he spoke english.
2. Mentally challenged therefore not being able to comprehend the situation.
3. New he was caught doing something, purposely acted dumb and confused trying to deflect the cop but the cop was laser focused and wasn't going to be distracted .
In situation 1 or 3, the cop is reasonable to feel his life is at stake once things got physical.
In situation 2 then the whole thing is sad but how does the cop know?
I wouldn't have got physical until backup came as there was another guy in the car as well. Being outnumbered with a guy who is clearly not responding and then allowing it to get physical wasn't smart but we are viewing from comfort if our couch, cop had to make decisions on the fly .
