Marjorie Taylor Greene Turns Ohio Railcar Derailment into a Conspiracy Theory - She is Insane

mandrill

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Why didn't Mayor Pete actually go to East Palestine??
The Wiki says that the spill was cleaned up within a couple of days. Why would he go?

This is basically the Far Right creating a conspiracy theory out of the crash and then finger-pointing at any Democrat they can. Why didn't Trump go? Why didn't Tulsi Gabbard go? Why didn't Marje Green go? Why didn't Ted Cruz go? Why didn't De Santis go? Why didn't Mike Pence go?

If Biden has to go, why doesn't the Rebel News suggest leading Republicans go as well?
 

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Triggered, you get triggered from my post. Wow, no wonder you do not seem to grasp the grifts the right spouts off and you buy into them hook line and sinker. As for my hobbying, I kind of suspect I see more ladies in a month than you do in a year but hey, who's counting?

ps...why do our post counts trigger you so much. Do you hope by stating so you can bully us into posting less? Isn't this akin to cancel culture, trying to silence Frank and me? Shame on you!!!
Lmao you simp. Look at all your exclamation marks in there... Thank you for showing us who you really are... mentioning your thread count is bullying? You will forever be laughed at for those two remarks. Mr triggered is your new name. Thanks for the laugh. Keep at it...you are probably pacing like crazy wishing you didn't write all that ... omg you made my day
 
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Once again the Republicans should stop making asses out of themselves. Someone like Marjorie is delusional and can never comprehend the very simple facts that the blame should 100% be pointed to Trump who instead of concentrating all his efforts on building a wall that Mexico were going to "pay for it", should instead not have rolled back Obama's legislation related to the safety of the Hazard Flammable Chemicals Transport Trains and Fuel Tanks. These ECP brakes would have been mandated for all such transport by 2021, if the pathetic roll back did not occur under Trump. He is not a scientist and should have not stuck his nose into this affair. Buttgieg was 100% CORRECT to point the blame at Trumpty Dumpty!!

Trump administration rolled back rules after miscalculating benefits of better brakes on oil trains

President Donald Trump’s administration miscalculated the potential benefits of putting better brakes on trains that haul explosive fuels when it scrapped an Obama-era rule over cost concerns, The Associated Press has found.


A government analysis used to justify the cancellation omitted up to $117 million in estimated future damages from train derailments that could be avoided by using electronic brakes. Revelation of the error stoked renewed criticism Thursday from the rule's supporters, who called the analysis biased.



Department of Transportation officials acknowledged the mistake after it was discovered by the AP during a review of federal documents. They said a correction will be published to the federal register.



But transportation spokesman Bobby Fraser said the decision not to require the brakes would stand under a Congressional act that said the costs couldn't exceed the rule's benefits.



"This was an unintentional error," Fraser. "With the correction, in all scenarios costs still outweigh benefits."



Safety advocates, transportation union leaders and Democratic lawmakers oppose the administration's decision to kill the brake rule, which was included in a package of rail safety measures enacted in 2015 under President Barack Obama following dozens of accidents by trains hauling oil and ethanol in the U.S. and Canada.



The deadliest happened in Canada in 2013, when an unattended train carrying crude oil rolled down an incline, came off the tracks in the town of Lac-Megantic and exploded into a massive ball of fire, killing 47 people and obliterating much of the Quebec community's downtown.



There have been other fiery crashes and fuel spills in Alabama, Oregon, Montana, Virginia, West Virginia, North Dakota, Illinois and elsewhere.



Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley said the administration should reconsider the brake rule in light of its miscalculation.



"The omission of $117 million from the rule's anticipated benefits is further proof that the Trump administration is willing to cut corners to put industry profits ahead of the American people's safety," said Merkley, a Democrat. He called for "a new cost-benefit analysis that is full and transparent."



After the brake rule was enacted, lobbyists for the railroad and oil industries pushed to cancel it, citing the high cost of installing so-called electronic pneumatic brakes and questioning their effectiveness.



But supporters of the brakes said the issue should be reconsidered given the miscalculation and concerns about other benefits that may have been ignored, including reducing the frequency of runaway trains and severity of train-on-train collisions, said Robert Duff, a senior adviser to Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat.



"This is not theoretical risk. We've actually seen these derailments," Duff said.



Unlike other systems where brakes are applied sequentially along the length of a train, electronic pneumatic brakes, or ECP, work on all cars simultaneously. That can reduce the distance and time a train needs to stop and cause fewer cars to derail.



"These ECP brakes are very important for oil trains," said Steven Ditmeyer, a rail safety expert and former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration. "It makes a great deal of sense: All the brakes get applied immediately, and there would be fewer cars in the pileup."



Under Obama, the Transportation Department determined the brakes would cost up to $664 million over 20 years and save between $470 million and $1.1 billion from accidents that would be avoided.



The Trump administration reduced the range of benefits to between $131 million and $374 million.



Transportation Department economists said in their analysis that the change was prompted in part by a reduction in oil train traffic in recent years. Even as ethanol shipments on U.S. railroads have continued to grow, reaching about 500,000 carloads annually, crude shipments peaked in 2014 and fell to about 200,000 carloads last year.



But in making their cost-benefit calculations, government economists left out the most common type of derailments in which spilled and burning fuel causes property damage but no mass casualties, the AP found. Equipping fuel trains with electronic brakes would reduce damages from those derailments by an estimated $48 million to $117 million, according to Department of Transportation estimates that were left out of the administration's final tally.



Including the omitted benefits reduces the net cost of the requirement to as low as $63 million under one scenario laid out by the agency. Other scenarios put the net cost at more than $200 million.



Transportation spokesman Fraser said that would not have changed September's decision to cancel the electronic brake requirement because of the cost.



The Association of American Railroads declined comment on the agency's cost benefit calculations. Spokeswoman Jessica Kahanek said the move to rescind the Obama rule was in line with the requirements set forth by Congress, which passed a 2015 measure saying the Department of Transportation must repeal the braking requirement if expected costs exceed benefits.



The biggest share of oil now moved by rail goes from the Bakken oil patch of North Dakota and Montana to the West Coast, where fears of an accident were realized two years ago when 16 tank cars carrying Bakken oil derailed, igniting a fire that burned for 14 hours along the banks of the Columbia River near Mosier, Oregon.



The accident was caused by track problems. An investigation by the Federal Railroad Administration concluded electronic brakes would have made it less severe.



John Risch, national legislative director for the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers, said electronic brakes also would have prevented the deaths at Lac-Megantic.



He added that the omission of benefits from the government's findings further tilted a study that was otherwise flawed.



“It flies in the face of earlier, much more comprehensive studies,” Risch said. “We are using a 120-year-old technology with mechanical brakes. They’ve come to the peak of what you can do with them.”


Of course Trump pandered to the Oil Giants, as the ECP brakes was proven to be safe!!
 

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Lmao you simp. Look at all your exclamation marks in there... Thank you for showing us who you really are... mentioning your thread count is bullying? You will forever be laughed at for those two remarks. Mr triggered is your new name. Thanks for the laugh. Keep at it...you are probably pacing like crazy wishing you didn't write all that ... omg you made my day
Triggered eh guy, LMAO. Shit, you're a riot. Are you mashing and grinding your teeth as you wrote that response? Simp, hm, wow hahahahaha, I can't remember ever being called that one but thank you. I won't post what I am thinking but be careful with the teeth grinding, dentists are expensive.
 
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The Wiki says that the spill was cleaned up within a couple of days. Why would he go?

This is basically the Far Right creating a conspiracy theory out of the crash and then finger-pointing at any Democrat they can. Why didn't Trump go? Why didn't Tulsi Gabbard go? Why didn't Marje Green go? Why didn't Ted Cruz go? Why didn't De Santis go? Why didn't Mike Pence go?

If Biden has to go, why doesn't the Rebel News suggest leading Republicans go as well?
Captain Pete should go to East Palestine, because he is the US secretary of Transportation. Although Captain Pete seems to be doing a terrible job.

 

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The Press Secretary puts the twat to shame

Right-wing Newsmax asks if Joe Biden is "woke" and gets a lesson in being an adult


 

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A few months vs 12-13years of constant non-stop use for you. Is that the same?
So you only being here a few months in your own words gives you a special privilege to be able to post your "thoughts" more so than me because I've been here longer? Did you choose the angry apple emoticon because you're an angry fella?
 

mandrill

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Captain Pete should go to East Palestine, because he is the US secretary of Transportation. Although Captain Pete seems to be doing a terrible job.

The Wiki article says that the spill was cleaned up successfully in 5 days. It's over.

Marge and the Far Right media will spin this into a conspiracy theory about dead raccoons and deformed children for the next 6 months. But the actual hard facts are that it's done. Biden offered support. The GOP governor of Ohio laughed at the offer. What needed to be done was done.

If Buttigieg goes, then Trump, Gabbard and Pence should go as well. Right?.... I don't see any of those people mentioning East Palestine in any statements. They don't give a shit. Pence is busy praying to Jesus and Trump is playing golf and collecting his payments from Putin.
 
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The Wiki article says that the spill was cleaned up successfully in 5 days. It's over.

Marge and the Far Right media will spin this into a conspiracy theory about dead raccoons and deformed children for the next 6 months. But the actual hard facts are that it's done. Biden offered support. The GOP governor of Ohio laughed at the offer. What needed to be done was done.

If Buttigieg goes, then Trump, Gabbard and Pence should go as well. Right?.... I don't see any of those people mentioning East Palestine in any statements. They don't give a shit. Pence is busy praying to Jesus and Trump is playing golf and collecting his payments from Putin.
The right is trying to somehow blame Greta and environmentalists for this one.

Instead of blaming trump and deregulation.
The spill on the ground is gone, but now all kinds of crap is spread through Ohio and its water sources.
 

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The Wiki article says that the spill was cleaned up successfully in 5 days. It's over.

Marge and the Far Right media will spin this into a conspiracy theory about dead raccoons and deformed children for the next 6 months. But the actual hard facts are that it's done. Biden offered support. The GOP governor of Ohio laughed at the offer. What needed to be done was done.

If Buttigieg goes, then Trump, Gabbard and Pence should go as well. Right?.... I don't see any of those people mentioning East Palestine in any statements. They don't give a shit. Pence is busy praying to Jesus and Trump is playing golf and collecting his payments from Putin.
Yes, but Trump, Pence, and Gabbard aren't in power. Captain Pete is!!
 

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Yes, but Trump, Pence, and Gabbard aren't in power. Captain Pete is!!
Mayor PEEte is a family man with commitments- such as breast feeding him and his husbands adopted son. He did talk about how he thinks too many tradesmen are white and joked about balloons.
Those are Mayor PEEtes priorities-he doesn't give a flying fuck about the people of East Palestine.
 
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Mayor PEEte is a family man with commitments- such as breast feeding him and his husbands adopted son. He did talk about how he thinks too many tradesmen are white and joked about balloons.
Those are Mayor PEEtes priorities-he doesn't give a flying fuck about the people of East Palestine.
A truly moronic post. Again you and your friends continue to demonstrate all that is wrong with what now passes for the GOP.
 
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