Mandatory breath samples now required in every Toronto-area traffic stop: OPP

[squeezer]

You should ask @notadoctor what his position is on this.

Ahhhhhh, he will just blame it all on Justin Beiber.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I dont think all that much will change.
Its not like OPP is gonna give everyone a breathalyzer who gets pulled over for speeding.
That would be way too time consuming.

Either way it doesnt affect me cause I always get an Uber when I paint the town

 

[NotADcotor]

Refusing will earn you an automatic charge

" Refusal or failure to comply with a breath demand carries the following penalties: A mandatory minimum one-year driving prohibition/suspension for a first-time offender, and the judge can impose up to a three-year driving prohibition at their discretion. A mandatory minimum $2,000 fine. "



You do realize the OPP is under Doug Ford's jurisdiction so perhaps you should change your post to " Gotta fund Ford's latest fishing and cheesecake-making adventure"

Nah man it's all TrueDooh's fault. Same when Rome lost those 3 legions in Germania, Fucking TrueDooh.

 

[musky guy]

I understand your frustration, but I disagree with you on some points. I have no problem with seatbelt/child seat laws, helmet laws for motorcycles and red light cameras. I think someone else mentioned the RL cameras. But yes, it does feel like a slippery slope at times.

seatbelts ride programs and the like you can argue right or wrong my point is theres been hundreds of new laws in my lifetime and they strip us of our rights and make this country more of a police state

 

[forgo10]

Ahhhhhh, he will just blame it all on Justin Beiber.

Maybe instead, he will just tell him to bend over .................. isn't that what doctors do?

 

[musky guy]

If you've had even one drink and you're asked to blow, you could register a warn, even though your BAC level is below 0.05. That's because you could have residual alcohol in your mouth. I have a friend with a breathalyser. A group of us were having some drinks over the course of an evening and we wanted to see how impaired we got. What we found was that downing half a glass of water before you blew, made a significant difference in the reading. Especially if you're sipping scotch or another spirit. At one point I blew 0.11, then after drinking water, blew 0.04. What also helped was hyperventilating.

Now of course, an officer will not let you drink anything before you blow. They'll also be suspicious if you're drinking water when they tell you to roll down your window. I also remember a cop friend tell me he's pulled over people who are clearly drunk, but before they get out of the car, they open a bottle of alcohol and take a sip. He said if someone does that, the breathalyser test is invalid. I can't remember how that plays out and what they can charge you with, but I don't think you can be charged with over 80. I'll have to talk to my cop friend again.

i remember years ago my brother and a friend of mine both said they beat the breathalyzer by chewing a whole role of rolaids when pulled over.

 

[Jenesis]

i remember years ago my brother and a friend of mine both said they beat the breathalyzer by chewing a whole role of rolaids when pulled over.

So your brother and your friends are drunk drivers who are proud of getting away with it????

Great company you keep.

 

[jimidean2011]

i remember years ago my brother and a friend of mine both said they beat the breathalyzer by chewing a whole role of rolaids when pulled over.

You can also beat it by sucking on a penny(not that we have those anymore) but that's not the point. This is just one more way for the government to infringe upon our rights under the guise of trying to make our streets safer. I hate the fact that there are guns everywhere but I also don't want to see police walking around strip searching everyone they come across. Just consider the premise of this movement..... I don't suspect you of committing a crime but I'm going to investigate the crime I don't suspect you of???

 

[musky guy]

So your brother and your friends are drunk drivers who are proud of getting away with it????

Great company you keep.

ya baby it was like forty years ago things were different then we started drinking in the seventies and back then the cops would just say you look pretty drunk you should go straight home. or if you had booze in the car they would take it and take it home and drink it and say im letting you off with a warning.

So your brother and your friends are drunk drivers who are proud of getting away with it????

Great company you keep.

this was forty years ago we all drank and drove back then it was no big deal when the cops pulled you over they would just say you look pretty drunk you should go straight home or they would take your booze and say im letting you off with a warning then take it home and drink it.

 

[Ginomore]

I dont think all that much will change.
Its not like OPP is gonna give everyone a breathalyzer who gets pulled over for speeding.
That would be way too time consuming.

Either way it doesnt affect me cause I always get an Uber when I paint the town

That’s exactly what they are doing.
Every traffic stop will include a breathalyzer test.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

That’s exactly what they are doing.
Every traffic stop will include a breathalyzer test

So in other words we are assumed to be guilty, and must prove our innocence by providing a breath sample

 

[basketcase]

BINGO. That's what the whole speed/red light cam scam is about, too....

Why is that a scam? Is someone forcing you to run lights?

I'm fine with fines and tickets, even if I get nailed on occasion. I'd far rather our tax base supported by people who choose not to follow the law than have everyone's taxes go up.