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I rarely see OPP in Toronto. Does the Breathalyzer pick up cannabis too?


Ontario Provincial Police say they are taking their strongest measures yet by requiring a mandatory breath sample from drivers for every traffic stop in the Greater Toronto Area.

The OPP said it is using the full extent of Canada’s Mandatory Alcohol Screening (MAS) which was amended in 2018 to allow police to demand a breath test of any driver even in the absence of suspicion.

OPP Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said breath samples to check for alcohol will be required even if drivers are pulled over for speeding, using a cellphone or other offences.

Impaired driving charges are up almost 30 per cent from five years ago. Schmidt said there was 11,000 impaired driving charges last year compared with more than 8,000 in 2019.

“We’re seeing a huge increase in those numbers and specifically in the GTA,” Schmidt told 640 Toronto’s Greg Brady.

Schmidt said there has been a dramatic increase in collisions so far this year — around 50 per cent more — compared with the same time frame five years ago.

“Driving is a privilege,” Schmidt said. “And we want to make sure that the drivers who are operating in vehicles are not impaired.”

Schmidt said failing to provide a breath sample via a breathalyzer will result in a criminal charge.

“If you refuse, you’ll be arrested and charged,” Schmidt said.

Schmidt said the mandatory breath samples will be for drivers who get pulled over in the GTA on OPP-patrolled highways and roads due to the significant increase in collisions and will be re-evaluated moving forward if it continues or expands to the rest of the province.

“If we just check everyone, it’s going to ensure that we are consistent across the region,” Schmidt said.

Ontario has a zero tolerance for young, novice and commercial drivers who cannot have any alcohol in their system. This includes those under the age of 21; any driver of any age with a G1, G2, M1, or M2 licence; those driving a vehicle that requires an A-F licence or CVOR; or anyone driving a road-building machine.

Other drivers with a full G licence will face charges and/or penalties if their blood alcohol concentration level registers at 0.08 or more on a breathalyzer or if a driver falls within a warning range between 0.05 and 0.079.

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GameBoy27

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Lots of shootings in the city too. Maybe they can search the driver's vehicle for weapons at the same time. I mean, if they want to make it a police state, why not go one step further. And no, I don't condone drinking and driving.
 

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I don't know why they have to test everyone automatically, a waste of money and time.
Not to mention dangerous. One of the worst places to be stopped, is on the shoulder of a highway. This will only increase the amount of time vehicles will be stopped, thus increasing the chance of a collision.
 

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Lots of shootings in the city too. Maybe they can search the driver's vehicle for weapons at the same time. I mean, if they want to make it a police state, why not go one step further. And no, I don't condone drinking and driving.
Throw in a mandatory medical exam starting with a prostate exam for men and women of any age, because we live in an all inclusive society and don't discriminate.
 

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Not to mention dangerous. One of the worst places to be stopped, is on the shoulder of a highway. This will only increase the amount of time vehicles will be stopped, thus increasing the chance of a collision.
1. When did a collision like you are worried about last actually happen in Ontario?

2. When was the last impaired driving crash or charge last occur? And how many in that 24 hour period?


3. @Vinson How much do you think one of those disposable plastic breathalyzer mouthpiece costs? And how much extra time do you think it would add in the course of a normal 20 minute traffic stop?
 

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I rarely see OPP in Toronto. Does the Breathalyzer pick up cannabis too?


Ontario Provincial Police say they are taking their strongest measures yet by requiring a mandatory breath sample from drivers for every traffic stop in the Greater Toronto Area.

The OPP said it is using the full extent of Canada’s Mandatory Alcohol Screening (MAS) which was amended in 2018 to allow police to demand a breath test of any driver even in the absence of suspicion.

OPP Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said breath samples to check for alcohol will be required even if drivers are pulled over for speeding, using a cellphone or other offences.

Impaired driving charges are up almost 30 per cent from five years ago. Schmidt said there was 11,000 impaired driving charges last year compared with more than 8,000 in 2019.

“We’re seeing a huge increase in those numbers and specifically in the GTA,” Schmidt told 640 Toronto’s Greg Brady.

Schmidt said there has been a dramatic increase in collisions so far this year — around 50 per cent more — compared with the same time frame five years ago.

“Driving is a privilege,” Schmidt said. “And we want to make sure that the drivers who are operating in vehicles are not impaired.”

Schmidt said failing to provide a breath sample via a breathalyzer will result in a criminal charge.

“If you refuse, you’ll be arrested and charged,” Schmidt said.

Schmidt said the mandatory breath samples will be for drivers who get pulled over in the GTA on OPP-patrolled highways and roads due to the significant increase in collisions and will be re-evaluated moving forward if it continues or expands to the rest of the province.

“If we just check everyone, it’s going to ensure that we are consistent across the region,” Schmidt said.

Ontario has a zero tolerance for young, novice and commercial drivers who cannot have any alcohol in their system. This includes those under the age of 21; any driver of any age with a G1, G2, M1, or M2 licence; those driving a vehicle that requires an A-F licence or CVOR; or anyone driving a road-building machine.

Other drivers with a full G licence will face charges and/or penalties if their blood alcohol concentration level registers at 0.08 or more on a breathalyzer or if a driver falls within a warning range between 0.05 and 0.079.

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OPP patrols 400 series highways and QEW in the GTA.

No, cannabis/THC is not detectable by the alcohol breathalyzer.

I'm not sure if there is a reliable testing device for cannabis impairment.

I do know that unlike alcohol, there is no defined biological limit for THC impairment.


But it is worth noting that "Impaired driving" covers any impairment. Being too tired, or being under the influence of a legally prescribed drug or any impairment is still "impaired driving". Driving with over 80 alcohol is a separate charge.
 

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“If we just check everyone, it’s going to ensure that we are consistent across the region,” Schmidt said.

These are the magic words...they probably have a good idea who they're looking for, but any hint of any equity deserving group being targeted will result in backlash....so test everyone.

Otherwise, why test grandma and grandpa doing 120 in 100 zone.
 

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If someone was drunk driving, wouldn't the cop be able to tell as soon as the driver rolled down the window and started speaking?
 
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“If we just check everyone, it’s going to ensure that we are consistent across the region,” Schmidt said.

These are the magic words...they probably have a good idea who they're looking for, but any hint of any equity deserving group being targeted will result in backlash....so test everyone.

Otherwise, why test grandma and grandpa doing 120 in 100 zone.
Otherwise, why test grandma and grandpa doing 120 in 100 zone.

Yeah, the demographic that grew up drinking and driving as the norm? I can see a few reasons why they would he stopped and checked.
 
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1. When did a collision like you are worried about last actually happen in Ontario?

2. When was the last impaired driving crash or charge last occur? And how many in that 24 hour period?


3. @Vinson How much do you think one of those disposable plastic breathalyzer mouthpiece costs? And how much extra time do you think it would add in the course of a normal 20 minute traffic stop?
I'm all for getting drunk drivers off the streets, I just don't know how those things work. I would hate to blow in one of those machines with these covid times even if they change the tips.
 

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Supposedly there's quite a few foods and supplements that can cause a false positive

 
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Supposedly there's quite a few foods and supplements that can cause a false positive

Nice.
"Fruit, hot sauce, energy drinks, pure vanilla extract, fermented sodas, and protein bars can also cause a false positive."

"A high BAC level can also result from certain medications. The breathalyzer may provide a false positive if you use anti-ulcer, anti-asthma, or allergy medication. Even certain supplements may have an impact on your BAC reading. "
 
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Nice.
"Fruit, hot sauce, energy drinks, pure vanilla extract, fermented sodas, and protein bars can also cause a false positive."

"A high BAC level can also result from certain medications. The breathalyzer may provide a false positive if you use anti-ulcer, anti-asthma, or allergy medication. Even certain supplements may have an impact on your BAC reading. "
Add mouthwash too
 
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Lots of shootings in the city too. Maybe they can search the driver's vehicle for weapons at the same time. I mean, if they want to make it a police state, why not go one step further. And no, I don't condone drinking and driving.
I'm rather certain I'll never encounter this but if I do I intend to refuse giving a breathe sample until they search my car. If I'm going to be violated and have my rights infringed upon I want the full package. If they refuse then I won't be providing a breathe sample and I hope to see my day in court. I'll let the judge know I was doing everything humanly possible to keep our streets safe. What a fucking country we are becoming....
 
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