I never mentioned the part about him being paid while suspended...I know thats out of Blair's hands. I said that Blair has had enough of this type of thuggery from his staff...what falsehood did I write anyways?
Man with knife on streetcar at Dundas and Grace, shot by police
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I never mentioned the part about him being paid while suspended...I know thats out of Blair's hands. I said that Blair has had enough of this type of thuggery from his staff...what falsehood did I write anyways?
There were several videos from different angles. Of the ones I've seen, there were 2 officers with guns drawn at the front door, and another came around to the back door.
I would not presume to be able to comment on the tactical practices of the TO police force, but I'm guessing the others in attendance would have thought the ones that DID have guns drawn, had tactical advantage, so there was no need for them to draw their weapon.
Perhaps. Or maybe he was suffering from some sort of post traumatic disorder, (having just shot and mortally wounded another human being), and wasn't aware of his actions... I'm sure we'll find out... eventually.
At least there IS a video!
I thought that a cop is on paid leave after every shooting regardless.
There are so many factors at play when an officer has to draw their weapon AND actually fire it. There would be investigations, but I would want the officers that protect me to be granted some time off to deal with the emotional aspects of it. From the reason why they felt the need to draw and shoot to the feelings of having seriously injured or killed someone. Even a justified shooting comes with emotional baggage that should be resolved and have completely closure to before sending that officer back out on the streets.
There are so many factors at play when an officer has to draw their weapon AND actually fire it. There would be investigations, but I would want the officers that protect me to be granted some time off to deal with the emotional aspects of it. From the reason why they felt the need to draw and shoot to the feelings of having seriously injured or killed someone. Even a justified shooting comes with emotional baggage that should be resolved and have completely closure to before sending that officer back out on the streets.
What is Blair's motive with this immediate suspension? Is it to prevent riots? Is it a PR move, throwing one cop under the bus to save face for the rest?
It quite possible that most of the officers could see that SY was neutralized except the feew who could see him through the front doorway, down doesn't mean out. The new video from a store front camera shows clearly SY was still moving even though he was down on the floor. It also shows the crowd on the s/c running for their lives and SY calmly walking towards the front. As I understand it, he did not die on site, but later.
I've stated the 'supposed' motive twice and so have others. Read more slowly. The cop is in no way being thrown under the bus.
I am confident that after "all" the information is released, the SIU will clear the officer. The officer likely knew he would be cleared as all of the conditions for him to be able to act as he did will be shown to have been present. If public pressure is great enough then Canadian LE protocol for this type of incident may be likely reviewed. The graphic nature of the video is causing Toronto Police to go into damage control mode and had there been no video, then this would have been a single day news story.
Something tells me this was the last thing that was going through the officers mind immediately after the shooting. A hundred possible thoughts, but not this one. There are very few members on TERB who have actually taken a humans life and they may or may not comment on this point.
As for is it a PR move? Yes it is. And it also falls under his job description to do something like this. PR goes with the job. He has the entire force to think about. It will take heat off of the rest of the officers and hopefully cool down the situation in the publics eye.
I believe it was the right choice on many levels.
I believe it was the right choice on many levels.
Who? Can you cite the specific case where an officer in Toronto exchanged gunfire with criminals without waiting for backup?
In every case I am aware of where police resorted to using their firearms there were multiple officers on the scene.
To lazy to read all the posts here or all news from the media: Has it determined how many shots hit him? I know 9 shots were fired. Just wonder were there any warning shots?
This.
And you should complain to the mods that someone dares use the internet for off topic posts.
I said duty officers shouldn't carry. Senior officers should. That is different than saying that they should not be armed.
I also don't recall ever supporting civilian concealed carry. I support private ownership of firearms for target shooting and hunting.
You're an idiot. HE'S ON THE GROUND. What if he's holding onto the knife cuz he's paralyzed from the 3 shots? Listen you Mr. Trigger Happy, the guy posed NO threat while on the ground. The OTHER cops looked like they were holding the killer cop down a couple of instances. I think he freaked out at the kid because he couldn't keep his cool. Unprofessional. This cop shouldn't get a medal but a murder charge it seems.
No leave him alone. To him, it's okay for cops to shoot people dead just for holding a knife when they otherwise are not attacking you with them.
