Man with knife on streetcar at Dundas and Grace, shot by police

[Ridgeman08]

using your words, until all the facts are in, using the word lunatic is premature, of course coming from a smug sanctimonious nob like you, i wouldnt expect much better

I disagree... Lunatic is quite accurate.

Why would any normal right minded citizen take a lethal weapon onto a street car, and start waving it around in a threatening manner. And, even then, why wouldn't that same normal, right minded citizen, not immediately drop the knife when told to by police. Furthermore: why wouldn't that same normal, right minded citizen, take more steps toward the police, with guns trained upon him...

Yep... perfect behaviour for a normal, right minded citizen!

For the record... IM469, I am not a right wing gun toting street justice enthusiast either. Can't stand guns to be honest.

 

[Sina]

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[Rono]

Whoever that Cop is needs to be in the general population in Kingston Pen soon.

James Forcillo

 

[5hummer]

james forcillo

Hero.

 

[Julian]

Hero.

Retard.

 

[Cnd-Guy]

Sounds like all the cops had no clue what to do

http://globalnews.ca/news/751568/watch-former-police-officer-analyzes-streetcar-shooting-video/

 

[pipelayer]

Yes, he was tasered as he tried to escape.

"On July 31, 2008, at 1:30 a.m., the suspect attempted to escape from the bus by breaking through a window. The RCMP arrested Li soon afterward. He was shot with a Taser twice, handcuffed and placed in the back of a police cruiser. Parts of the victim's body, placed in plastic bags, were retrieved from the bus, while his ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pockets. The victim's eyes and a part of his heart were never recovered and are presumed to have been eaten by Li."

This guy was scarier than the kid and yet the cops handled the situation effectively without danger to themselves or other passengers nearby.

The cops should have shot this prick nine times too.

 

[GPIDEAL]

What type weapon a semi-automatic Pistol or a revolver? How quickly were the shots fired?

People who have never, never even been in a shot - don't shoot simulation have no idea.

You can see it in the video. Police service semi-automatic pistol (dunno what they use - a Glock? Somebody mentioned a 9mm).

 

[GPIDEAL]

The bus was surrounded, any direction this guy was running was towards or near a cop. These cops were obviously better trained because by admission by similar minded comments here - this guy would have been shot 10 times by the same petrified TO cop. Neutralizing a threat doesn't have be with deadly force.

I agree.

 

[wazup]

And how were police supposed to know there were no other hostages at back of the bus??

Ummm, maybe look inside the windows.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Yes. "DROP THE KNIFE!"

Hummer. He was yelling or screaming AFTER the 3 shots too. Either the victim was still clutching the knife somehow or tried to get up a tad, or the police officer was traumatized by his own action and freaking out.

 

[AJstar]

Yup.
The police are going to have to let him be charged, I expect. He acted on his own, even if he did shout a warning it doesn't justify him shooting a kid who poses no immediate risk to himself or the public.
And shooting to kill could make it manslaughter or homicide if the kid was already down after 3 shots fired at him.

New video released clearly shows the kid is down after the 1st 3 shots. This cop is toast. There is no way in hell that even his powerful union can save him. The quicker the brotherhood lets him go, the quicker they can regroup and save collateral damage in relations.

 

[GPIDEAL]

If I were one of those cops, I'd have done exactly the same thing.

Don't judge until you've been in those shoes and had some asshole come at you with a knife

He didn't exactly come after him.

He taunted the cop. I think the cop freaked out that the guy didn't drop the knife and was pissed by his taunts and started to unload his clip.

All it would take is one shot to the torso and stand the fuck back. Wait for the guy to drop. But they didn't take any chances whatsoever.

They shot this guy as if he was fucking Clyde Barrow.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Police are trained to protect the public from armed and dangerous people.
Whether Yatim was disturbed or not meant very little to the police during
the confrontation.

Disturbed people can be dangerous (even aged, senile ones). I know of cases involving schizophrenic adults who have bludgeoned a loved one because they just went postal. It's sad.

 

[AJstar]

BTW, streetcar was empty except for the kid who only had a knife. Any city person who has travelled on a streetcar knows how easy these things come off the overhead wires. Any cop, there were many surrounding this thing,with a brain, could have pulled the trolly arms off the wires making the streetcar dead in the street. Immobile streetcar + no hostages = NO immediate threat period.

 

[AJstar]

Disturbed people can be dangerous (even aged, senile ones). I know of cases involving schizophrenic adults who have bludgeoned a loved one because they just went postal. It's sad.

True enough, but there was no immediate danger ,
If the cop felt too close ,he could have backed off a little with plenty of time to shot if the kid charged at him.

 

[GPIDEAL]

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What's with the alcohol and fingers pointing in the fashion of taking a shot with a gun?

Very cool (until you threaten a cop).

I think this could be a case of a kid who was drunk or high on drugs and who challenged authority as a result (because it's cool to be a gangsta wannabe). Only this time, he got himself in a real bad situation and it back fired.

 

[GPIDEAL]

True enough, but there was no immediate danger ,
If the cop felt too close ,he could have backed off a little with plenty of time to shot if the kid charged at him.

Just a general comment but I agree with you too.

 

[lovelatinas]

What's with the alcohol and fingers pointing in the fashion of taking a shot with a gun?

Very cool (until you threaten a cop).

I think this could be a case of a kid who was drunk or high on drugs and who challenged authority as a result (because it's cool to be a gangsta wannabe). Only this time, he got himself in a real bad situation and it back fired.

Perhaps the cop thought he was gang member and decided to waste him with 9 bullets but we don't know the facts. At the same time, they could have tazered him instead of having to kill him.

 

[cunning linguist]

True enough, but there was no immediate danger ,
If the cop felt too close ,he could have backed off a little with plenty of time to shot if the kid charged at him.

There really wasn't as much room as apologists like to believe. A knife wielding attacker can close distance of 21 feet in as fast as 1.5 seconds.