Los Angeles Is Another DEI Catastrophe

[silentkisser]

Yeah their physical requirements scores are deficient compared to men's. If you don't think that translates into job performance where physicality is crucial, this discussions is pointless.

Can you point to any story or study that shows that female firefighters hare deficient in their duties? Like, seriously. They do the job, and have been for decades.

Frankly, I've never seen a female firefighter haul an adult out of any burning building. This stuff is reserved for male firefighters for obvious reasons.

Are there important roles for female firefighters? Absolutely. But carrying people to safety from fires isn't one of them.

I'm sure you've never seen a lot of things. But, consider the fact that Steve Buscemi was once a NYC firefighter....I don't picture him carrying people out of a burning building, but he'd done it.

They did when it was introduced.

What's the point in male counterparts screaming about something everyone already knows? There's no incentive to tell you that the sky is blue if it means getting fired.

The men pick up the slack.

Do you scream from the rooftop at your wife when she asks you to open a jar for her because you have the strength that she doesn't?

No, you just do it knowing that it's your job to assist. It is what it is.

Here's a shocker: Women have always been ridiculed for going into "men's" careers. Do you think the first cop, paramedic, sports reporter, doctor, lawyer, etc., didn't hear all these complaints?

This is just a sad argument.

 

[Bucktee]

Can you point to any story or study that shows that female firefighters hare deficient in their duties? Like, seriously. They do the job, and have been for decades.

I'm not aware of any such study, nor would it be political viable to conduct one.

What we do have are clear differences in physical testing requirements.

Why not reduce the male physical requirements to match those of women?

I'm sure you've never seen a lot of things. But, consider the fact that Steve Buscemi was once a NYC firefighter....I don't picture him carrying people out of a burning building, but he'd done it.

He would have had to pass the men's physical requirements - requires carrying a body down stairs - so what you "don't picture him carrying" is irrelevant.

Here's a shocker: Women have always been ridiculed for going into "men's" careers. Do you think the first cop, paramedic, sports reporter, doctor, lawyer, etc., didn't hear all these complaints?

The same issues exist in policing and military since they have important physical components.

Do I have to post videos of female cops unable to restrain non-aggressive average sized men?

Women sports reporters are garbage.

Women make great doctors and lawyers.

This is just a sad argument.

Sad, but true.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Irrelevant.

It makes a significant difference in on-the-job performance.

The reality of the many servicewomen who do their jobs admirably and honourably would negate your ignorant opinions delivered from your basement while wearing nothing more than your underwear.

 

[The Oracle]

It is well known men are more athletic than women in general.
So cannot score them on the same scale.
This has nothing to do with the left.
It is not like all men score the same either.

Total denial of what is going on..Amazing to read in real time.

The parasitic mind.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Total denial of what is going on..

Correction: Denial of what you think is going on.

 

[The Oracle]

Correction: Denial of what you think is going on.

The voting public record in the last election disagrees with you.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The voting public record in the last election disagrees with you.

Yes the American electorate is quite misinformed.

 

[Bucktee]

The reality of the many servicewomen who do their jobs admirably and honourably would negate your ignorant opinions delivered from your basement while wearing nothing more than your underwear.

Irrelevant.

I understand that in your worldview, despite obvious differences between men and women, you must suspend disbelief and hold strong to the status quo that men and women are equally capable of all things.

If we look at pro sport on-the-job performance, where physical requirements are important, we see the differences between men and women. The WNBA players do their job admirably but they can't compete against NBA players.

You would probably require a study to confirm this, right?

Even a mixed-sex league where all teams have both men and women, would still be inferior to an all-male roster.


"Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. Mean maximal hand-grip strength showed the expected clear difference between men (541 N) and women (329 N). Less expected was the gender related distribution of hand-grip strength: 90% of females produced less force than 95% of males."

Hand-grip strength of young men, women and highly trained female athletes - PubMed

Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. To obtain epidemiologically relevant hand-grip strength data for pre-employment screening, we determined maximal isometric hand-grip strength in 1,654 healthy men and 533 healthy women aged 20-25...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You and I both know that all things being equal, when you call the police or firefighters for help, you're hoping it's a team of men that arrive. Even female police and firefighters hope so, too.

It's not the result of hate or bias. It's the result of common sense and real world experience.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Irrelevant.

I understand that in your worldview, despite obvious differences between men and women, you must suspend disbelief and hold strong to the status quo that men and women are equally capable of all things.

If we look at pro sport on-the-job performance, where physical requirements are important, we see the differences between men and women. The WNBA players do their job admirably but they can't compete against NBA players.

You would probably require a study to confirm this, right?

Even a mixed-sex league where all teams have both men and women, would still be inferior to an all-male roster.


"Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. Mean maximal hand-grip strength showed the expected clear difference between men (541 N) and women (329 N). Less expected was the gender related distribution of hand-grip strength: 90% of females produced less force than 95% of males."

Hand-grip strength of young men, women and highly trained female athletes - PubMed

Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. To obtain epidemiologically relevant hand-grip strength data for pre-employment screening, we determined maximal isometric hand-grip strength in 1,654 healthy men and 533 healthy women aged 20-25...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You and I both know that all things being equal, when you call the police or firefighters for help, you're hoping it's a team of men that arrive. Even female police and firefighters hope so, too.

It's not the result of hate or bias. It's the result of common sense and real world experience.

They are not competing.
We are not talking sports (where I would agree men and women should compete separately).
Here they are working as a team to accomplish mission objectives.
Your statements are uninformed and the reality of successful missions executed by the men and women who currently serve, prove otherwise.

 

[The Oracle]

Yes the American electorate is quite misinformed.

Just call them names I know you want to...

 

[Bucktee]

They are not competing.

They're competing for jobs.

We are not talking sports (where I would agree men and women should compete separately).

Sport is one of the rare examples of anything coming close to a meritocracy. Moreover, it's on-the-job performance broadcast in front of a worldwide audience.

Here they are working as a team to accomplish mission objectives.

You could have a mixed-sex team trying to accomplish the goal of winning a championship, but they'd lose to an all-male team.

A study of all-female, mixed-sex, and all-male group tasks WAS conducted in the US army.

Your statements are uninformed and the reality of successful missions executed by the men and women who currently serve, prove otherwise.

By "uninformed" you mean statements that you dislike.

Ideology is a powerful drug.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Ideology is a powerful drug.

I agree.
Hence your misinformed statements.
I go by results and they show that women are perfectly capable of serving in the armed forces.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Just call them names I know you want to...

Own it.
Say you want me to call them names so you have a bone to pick on. lmao.

 

[Bucktee]

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That's injustice.

 

[SchlongConery]

"Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. Mean maximal hand-grip strength showed the expected clear difference between men (541 N) and women (329 N). Less expected was the gender related distribution of hand-grip strength: 90% of females produced less force than 95% of males."

Hand-grip strength of young men, women and highly trained female athletes - PubMed

Hand-grip strength has been identified as one limiting factor for manual lifting and carrying loads. To obtain epidemiologically relevant hand-grip strength data for pre-employment screening, we determined maximal isometric hand-grip strength in 1,654 healthy men and 533 healthy women aged 20-25...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Well no more weak female Massage Parlour attendants for you then JCPro! Back to prowling the back alleys of Church St where men are men... again!

 

[SchlongConery]

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Perfect dog whistle to the simpleton racist Trump MAGA'ts. The man is truly a genius. Seriously.

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1878984178915856767

How about DeSantis and the Florida hurricanes?

Or the long term good ole boy state government in Baton Rouge and the LA disaster?

 

[mandrill]

Perfect dog whistle to the simpleton racist Trump MAGA'ts. The man is truly a genius. Seriously.

A genius?.....

Nah. Anyone can figure out that if you throw dog treats to dogs, all the dogs will follow you down the street.

 

[jalimon]

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And this is next potus. And this was potus. My freaking god america wake up!!

 

[PeterParker1000]

I think the California government should be toppled and Trump just sits back and doesn’t interfere. It’s a DEI stronghold. All elections are influenced so the weak get elected and equity prevails.