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Opensuse

I just recently configured my Opensuse to read/write to my Windows HD. Awesome.
bTW I have 2 HD one for Linux and the other for Windows.
 

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Firewall

I am going to ask a hacker I know about firewalla dn antivirus.
but for now in google

http://www.coyotelinux.com/

it's free.
there are others but you have to pay, yes there are some programs available in linux that you have to pay.

http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/linux.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126240-page,1/article.html
http://www.clamav.net/

http://www.freebyte.com/

For FREE Software for any OS go here;

http://osswin.sourceforge.net
http://project5.freezope.org/pears
http://www.freebyte.com/
http://www.Freshmeat.net
http://www.Gnomemeeting.org
http://www.gnuwin.org
http://www.myopensource.org
http://www.opensourcelist.org/oss/
http://www.solfege.org/
http://www.theopencd.org
http://www.winlibre.com/en/

If you want more sites I will try to create a pdf file and post it somewhere.
 
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xix said:
you have to burn an iso image not transfer. to see that you did it right go into the cd from windows and open the cd. if you see ubuntu.iso then you made a mistake.
Yeah that's the way it shows in windows, ubuntu.iso.
However when I put it in on the linux side and right click on properties, it shows up as an ISO image?!?!?....but it still won't open....
I don't have 2 HDs. I just partitioned my HD and put Fedora on a 30 gig partition.
It's been running great like that so far.
 

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Well didn't have a bit of trouble with Fedora but then I had a manual for a guide.
On Ubuntu I just went off on my own to see what would happen based on what Fedora does.
Guess each Linux distro is a bit different....;)
That would explain it. You're not doing an upgrade but switching over to an entirely new/different distro.

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Was told by a techie who's been using Linux for years and never been attacked, that a firewall is all you need.
What do you use that's better?
I've only been using Ubuntu for the past few months off and on. I just started up iptables and that should be enough for the average user. If you're a business then you may consider some of the suggestions later in this thread.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Yeah that's the way it shows in windows, ubuntu.iso.
However when I put it in on the linux side and right click on properties, it shows up as an ISO image?!?!?....but it still won't open....
I don't have 2 HDs. I just partitioned my HD and put Fedora on a 30 gig partition.
It's been running great like that so far.
Yes this is a mistake you didn't make an ISO disc but just copy the *.iso file on to a CD. You didn't burn an image file/program bootable CD/DVD.
If you have burn the image/program then you would see a bunch of folders. BUt since you only see *.iso file then the disc is no good.

Sorry but you ahve to try again. From experience typing here.
 

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Yes this is a mistake you didn't make an ISO disc but just copy the *.iso file on to a CD. You didn't burn an image file/program bootable CD/DVD.

Sorry but you ahve to try again. From experience typing here.
Yeah, see that now.
I just jumped into it without reading the 'Need Help?' section on this ubuntu D/L site:
http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/dow...country_UK',+'continent_NA']&download-button=

Had I taken the time that mistake could have been avoided.
Oh well, still new to linux, still have more to learn.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
... Oh well, still new to linux, still have more to learn.
Just so there's no confusion: this isn't a linux thing; it's a matter of burning an "image" versus burning a backup of a file. Plenty of folk make the same error making Windows "executable" CDs, too.
 

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Just so there's no confusion: this isn't a linux thing; it's a matter of burning an "image" versus burning a backup of a file. Plenty of folk make the same error making Windows "executable" CDs, too.
Well followed the directions on the Ubuntu site;
http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/dow...country_UK',+'continent_NA']&download-button=
and burned the 'image' the right way with the handy free CD burning software 'InfraRecorder' they provided.
Put the CD in and ran ubuntu off the CD to see what ubuntu was like before installing it. It runs slower off the CD but this allows you to give it a test run before installing it.
It's nice and has some common features to Fedora so that made it easier to pick up.

Ubuntu 7.04 is a fully loaded distro and came with tons of apps (Firefox 2.0, Open Office 2.2, an Anti-Virus app, and much more....) basically everything you could ask for in an OS.
 

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How many OSs can you put on a PC?

I'm running a dual boot setup now with XP and Fedora.
Got Ubuntu 7.04 and have been running it off the CD with no problems.

Question is; in the Ubuntu CD install section, it looks like it says you can install an OS on each partition you create on your HDD. It looks like it is saying, if you have 4 partitions you can put 4 different OS in your PC.
Is this correct and possible to do?

Was thinking of taking out Fedora and replacing it with Ubuntu. However since I have a 30 gig empty partition, is it possible to leave Fedora where it is and just install Ubuntu on that empty partition?
This way it would have XP, Fedora and Ubuntu on the same machine.
 

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Depends more on what bootloader you're using, and what it's willing to do for you. But you should be able to do what you're describing.

And of course, this refers only to "main" (primary) partitions, not extended partitions (there is generally a limit of 4 "main" partitions). And that you're using extended partitions for various partitions which may be needed within an OS.

For a bit more info, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(computing)
 

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Depends more on what bootloader you're using, and what it's willing to do for you. But you should be able to do what you're describing.
Well I can't put 3 OSs on with the bootloader Ubuntu uses.
Fedora installed very easily as a dual boot setup, Ubuntu is more difficult to dual boot or maybe because of Ubuntu's 'ambiguous' directions! GGRRRRG!!!!
Printed out the Ubuntu directions and followed them but as it sets up, it offers 'different' confusing directions, during the install, that while it installed Ubuntu OK, it knocked out XP completely!
Ubuntu is a nice OS after toying around with Vista, Mac, Fedora and XP. IMHO Ubuntu is a bit intuitive and easy to learn. Of course being familiar with and using Fedora for a couple months probably helped me some to.
The partitiong tool Ubuntu provides sucks and is very slow.
XP partitioning tool is better, however the Seagate partitioning tool is the fastest and easiest of the three! It formats and installs a filesystem in seconds!
Partitiong is no problem anymore, got that down pat.
In fact found a way to transfer the whole XP OS from one HDD to another HDD in 16 minutes using the Seagate Disc Wizzard that comes with all Seagate drives! Using this, it's a snap to format your HD then reload XP back on the HD.

You don't need any XP OS CD that can take hours to reload everything you had.
I just saved an old HDD loaded XP on it, then use it to tranfer the whole OS over to the newer system in 16 minutes. Then switch drives, change the jumper and your done. A pretty painless way to format, partition and reload an OS on a drive!
 

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Ubuntu aims first and foremost at simple setups. If you're trying to do a dual boot system, you might as well follow the instructions from Microsoft. Which is to say, you're screwed. MS ain't gonna give you any hope of help.

At least Ubuntu gives you a path to find help, and a very large (and quickly growing) community who will help you.
 

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Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Figured out what I was doing wrong and put in Ubuntu as a dual boot with XP Pro. The dual boot setup with Ubuntu is more complicated than a dual boot setup with Fedora but with the help of XP 'disc management tools' I was able to figure it out and get it right.

Ubuntu 7.04 'Feisty Fawn' is a fully loaded distro and came with tons of apps (Firefox 2.0, Open Office 2.2, an Anti-Virus app, and much much more....) basically everything you could ask for in an OS.

Installing updates are just as easy as XP, in fact maybe easier.
Needed 'plug-ins' are practically automatically installed! It tells you what is needed, asks if you want it, then goes and finds it, then downloads, installs and cleans up afterwards. You just sit back watching while Ubuntu does its thing!
Installing my fav browser Opera, was just as easy. I just went to www.Opera.com where Opera saw I was using Linux and picked out the appropriate linux browser for my distro. Then Ubuntu D/Ls it, installs it and cleans up after, all automatically on its own.

Another nice feature, I can go into the XP side and see all in Windows and use many of the XP files. Ubuntu now plays all my mp3 files on the XP side after getting 'automatically' the right plug-in to play mp3s.

Same for my external HDD. Ubuntu recognized it when its turned on and shows all the contents even though they're all windows programs, files and mp3s. I couldn't do this with Fedora.

Oh and last but not least, when running speed tests, the results are ~25% faster when on linux than when the same tests are run on XP...:)
 

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Oh and last but not least, when running speed tests, the results are ~25% faster when on linux than when the same tests are run on XP...:)
When you get more comfortable with Linux, it is interesting to rebuild the kernel so that it only has features that are relevant to your hardware. This makes it smaller (often *a lot* smaller) and in some cases can increase its performance.

Installing the gentoo linux distribution is a lot more involved than installing Ubunto, but makes it pretty easy for you to build everything that is installed. This gives you the chance to use a flag that makes the compiler generate code that is optimized for the architecture of your processor. This can really breath new life into older hardware, or allow you to fully take advantage of your new, expensive hardware.

Windows OS's are built for a "common lower denominator" processor architecture (i486 for XP, I think), their kernels are huge, and there is nothing that you can do about it.

Also, with Linux file fragmentation is not an issue. Fragmentation causes a very significant performance loss on Windows OS's, and if at less than 15% of your disk is free the defragmenter utility basically does squat.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Figured out what I was doing wrong and put in Ubuntu as a dual boot with XP Pro. The dual boot setup with Ubuntu is more complicated than a dual boot setup with Fedora but with the help of XP 'disc management tools' I was able to figure it out and get it right.

Ubuntu 7.04 'Feisty Fawn' is a fully loaded distro and came with tons of apps (Firefox 2.0, Open Office 2.2, an Anti-Virus app, and much much more....) basically everything you could ask for in an OS.

Installing updates are just as easy as XP, in fact maybe easier.
Needed 'plug-ins' are practically automatically installed! It tells you what is needed, asks if you want it, then goes and finds it, then downloads, installs and cleans up afterwards. You just sit back watching while Ubuntu does its thing!
Installing my fav browser Opera, was just as easy. I just went to www.Opera.com where Opera saw I was using Linux and picked out the appropriate linux browser for my distro. Then Ubuntu D/Ls it, installs it and cleans up after, all automatically on its own.

Another nice feature, I can go into the XP side and see all in Windows and use many of the XP files. Ubuntu now plays all my mp3 files on the XP side after getting 'automatically' the right plug-in to play mp3s.

:)
All linux distro can do everything Ubuntu or Windows can do. The only problem is that some distro are more involved. Meaning that you have to tinker or configure to get it right. The reason being is copyright protection /license release forms. Opensuse can't play any video or mp3 upon installed.

But I can search for a forum run privately or indenpendet of OpenSuse Novell and some people will post ways to change the OS to Read any files.

Ubuntu is pretty muc the Linux for Dummies. But it has some limitations. As opposed to other Linuxes. All Linuxes can do the same thing except that each is custom made.

The best example to explain Linux is a Car.
You can have 50 people ordering Ford from the same dealer. for Arguement sake lets's say they must order a Focus.
Do you think there will be 2 Focus the same?

That is why Indenpende Forums are very important in Linux. I found like 4 -5 for Suse but only use 2 once a month I will check the others but their tips are pretty much the same as the others. Just try to find the forum that you feel right or like.
 
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