Linux

[WoodPeckr]

Linux Anti Virus question?

My Linux manual says linux is 'virtually virus-free' and claims attack are just as likely on a linux machine as on a Mac.
Later on in the manual it says there are AV programs for linux and even gives a link to a free AV program for linux, their version on AVG, it looks like.
Question is does anyone run any AV while using Linux?

 

[xix]

Can't tell

My Linux manual says linux is 'virtually virus-free' and claims attack are just as likely on a linux machine as on a Mac.
Later on in the manual it says there are AV programs for linux and even gives a link to a free AV program for linux, their version on AVG, it looks like.
Question is does anyone run any AV while using Linux?

I have no idea if my is running. But I believe it is. I usually keep a doc file of linux programs that I have come across basically Linux vs Windows. That way down the road I can d/l it and try if I am interested in that field. Not all linux programs are easy to get sometimes you have to search for them.

For example I had to find Frostwire = Limewire.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I have no idea if my is running. But I believe it is.

Thanks,
Was curious since the Mac people always say they don't need any AV and I never asked them if they use any AV when they are using Linux online.

 

[truely-appalled]

My Linux manual says linux is 'virtually virus-free' and claims attack are just as likely on a linux machine as on a Mac.
Later on in the manual it says there are AV programs for linux and even gives a link to a free AV program for linux, their version on AVG, it looks like.
Question is does anyone run any AV while using Linux?

I run ClamAV (http://www.clamav.net/), including the clamd daemon, on two home Linux systems, one with a gentoo distribution and the other with Slackware 11. It finds lots of stuff that is bad for Windows machines (and keeps me from relaying it on in my e-mail messages), but I don't think that it has found anything bad for a Linux system.

I don't run an e-mail client or a web browser when logged on as root.

 

[basketcase]

A firewall is also a good idea, no matter what OS you use.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Linux is nice

Got a couple firewalls now.

Having fun with Linux. Having no problems at all with the dual boot setup.
Fedora is OK but will probably give Xandros a try next.

Here's a useful link on the Top 10 Distributions for those interested.

http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

 

[WoodPeckr]

Speed results

Noted something interesting the last couple days.
Did some speed tests from 3 sites while on XP then switched over to Linux and did the same speed tests while using Linux on my dual boot setup.

Here's the results:

~2500-3200 Kbps, using XP
~3700-4600 Kbps, using Linux

Not complaining at all but anyone know why Linux is getting faster speed results than XP on the same speed sites?

BTW the more I use Linux the more impressed I am with what it can do.
You have unlimited ways of customizing the way it looks.
You can make it look like Windows or a Mac or anything else you may want it to look like.

 

[Anynym]

~2500-3200 Kbps, using XP
~3700-4600 Kbps, using Linux

Your XP speeds are probably slowed by whatever firewall software you're using.

 

[Papi Chulo]

Is there an MSN Messenger for Linux?

 

[WoodPeckr]

Gaim, the Linux IM app

Is there an MSN Messenger for Linux?

Fedora Core allows you to do Instant Messaging with Gaim.
It doesn't matter if you usually use MSN/ Windows Instant Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, AOL (AIM), or ICQ; you can set up Gaim, a single app to check all these messaging accounts.

What Is Gaim?

 

[WoodPeckr]

Xandros 3

Xandros 3, distro has been getting good reviews.
Using an old Fedora core now and thinking of moving to Xandros 3.
Anyone using Xandros?

Came across this book on Xandros 3.
It has a good concise review of Xandros 3:

Linux Made Easy—The Official Guide to Xandros 3 for Everyday Users, by Rickford Grant ISBN 1593270577
http://www.kickstartnews.com/reviews/books/linux_made_easy_grant.html

 

[WoodPeckr]

Dell picks Ubuntu for Linux PCs

By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: May 1, 2007, 6:07 AM PDT

Update: Dell is trying a second time to sell personal computers with Linux preinstalled, this time using the up-and-coming Ubuntu version of the open-source operating system.

At the end of May, the No. 2 PC maker will begin selling some consumer-focused laptop and desktop models with Ubuntu's new "Feisty Fawn" version of Linux installed, Dell spokesman Kent Cook said. The company announced the Linux move on Tuesday on its IdeaStorm site, launched in February to gather feedback directly from customers about what they want.

"Today, we are excited to tell you that Dell will begin offering Canonical's latest version, Ubuntu 7.04, as an option on select Dell consumer models in the U.S. in the coming weeks," the company said in its announcement.

Dell also announced that it has improved its Linux forum and has given it prominent placement on its Dell Forums Web page.

When buying the Dell systems, customers will have the option to purchase support from Ubuntu backer Canonical, said Jane Silber, the start-up's director of operations.......

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6180419.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news

 

[mudguts]

I have a dual boot system, XP and Ubuntu. I'm in XP most of the time but when I want to play online and not have my wife know what I was doing, I go into Ubuntu. She'll never figure it out. it has great security, runs everything that I need and runs quickly on my old PIII 1.1GHZ notebook.

the CD that you get as a demo is a bit of joke but if you have a spare machine, install it. it's really not difficult at all.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I've been running a dual boot system, XP and Fedora and split use of them 50-50 now. Fedora does everything I want it to on the internet, plus it's quick and was easy to learn, like a Mac....and I'm running it on an old PII, 400MHZ PC.
Both OSs run fine as a dual boot system and think this is an excellent way to learn Linux and break free of the MS/Mac monopolies.

 

[danibbler]

While I applaud your enthusiasm, Linux is not as easy to learn as a Mac. I'm running Panther right now along with an old laptop running Ubuntu 6.06 and there is a significant different in the level of difficulty with the latter.

For example, when I upgraded to 6.06 from 5.10, why did it take away the OpenOffice Suite from the Applications menu? I had to go into SPM, look through all of the packages, wrongly chose a "transitional" package before picking the right one.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Nope...but i do look out for keyloggers

I have a firewall and was told that will protect you from keyloggers.

Was feeling adventurous and downloaded, Ubuntu 7.04 ISO file, from www.distrowatch.com then burned it to CD.
When this Ubuntu 7.04 CD is put in the CD drive, it won't open.
How do you open it and then install Ubuntu?

 

[danibbler]

I have a firewall and was told that will protect you from keyloggers.

Was feeling adventurous and downloaded, Ubuntu 7.04 ISO file, from www.distrowatch.com then burned it to CD.
When this Ubuntu 7.04 CD is put in the CD drive, it won't open.
How do you open it and then install Ubuntu?

As easy as a Mac huh?

Ok, first off, I don't think that a firewall will protect you from a keylogging program. AFAIK, firewalls (both SIP and NAT) look for incoming threats and not outgoing ones, nor will they protect you from someone inside of your network/business who installs a keylogger on your system.

Second, is there a need to check the HASH on your burned copy of 7.04? If it matches with what you're supposed to get then SPM should recognize that you have a new distro and install it for you. Good luck, my last Ubuntu upgrade knocked out my wireless LAN connection. grrrr....I may have to go back to the old distro I have.

 

[Heyme]

I have a firewall and was told that will protect you from keyloggers.

Was feeling adventurous and downloaded, Ubuntu 7.04 ISO file, from www.distrowatch.com then burned it to CD.
When this Ubuntu 7.04 CD is put in the CD drive, it won't open.
How do you open it and then install Ubuntu?

Just a quick note on the ISO files, when you burn them you have to tell your burning software that your burning an "Image" file. Basically when you straight burn the ISO file to CD your just copying the file. When you tell it to use an ISO file it transfers the "contents" of the ISO onto the CD and this makes the actual install files to be readable during initial bootup etc.

Check your softwares help section for burning ISO if needed.

 

[WoodPeckr]

As easy as a Mac huh?

Well didn't have a bit of trouble with Fedora but then I had a manual for a guide.
On Ubuntu I just went off on my own to see what would happen based on what Fedora does.
Guess each Linux distro is a bit different....

Ok, first off, I don't think that a firewall will protect you from a keylogging program. AFAIK, firewalls (both SIP and NAT) look for incoming threats and not outgoing ones, nor will they protect you from someone inside of your network/business who installs a keylogger on your system.

Was told by a techie who's been using Linux for years and never been attacked, that a firewall is all you need.
What do you use that's better?

Second, is there a need to check the HASH on your burned copy of 7.04? If it matches with what you're supposed to get then SPM should recognize that you have a new distro and install it for you. Good luck, my last Ubuntu upgrade knocked out my wireless LAN connection. grrrr....I may have to go back to the old distro I have.

Will check when I find the time.
Only chose Ubuntu because Dell picked it.
Prior to that I was leaning towards trying Xandros 4 which just came out and got some good reviews.
Xandros 4 is a fully loaded distro complete with plenty of apps, including security.

Just a quick note on the ISO files, when you burn them you have to tell your burning software that your burning an "Image" file. Basically when you straight burn the ISO file to CD your just copying the file. When you tell it to use an ISO file it transfers the "contents" of the ISO onto the CD and this makes the actual install files to be readable during initial bootup etc.

Check your softwares help section for burning ISO if needed.

Used Nero Express and simply did a 'data burn' on that ISO.
Figured it was something like that.
This was the first time I ever played around with an ISO file.

 

[xix]

oh bad

Will check when I find the time.
Only chose Ubuntu because Dell picked it.
Prior to that I was leaning towards trying Xandros 4 which just came out and got some good reviews.
Xandros 4 is a fully loaded distro complete with plenty of apps, including security.

Used Nero Express and simply did a 'data burn' on that ISO.
Figured it was something like that.
This was the first time I ever played around with an ISO file.

you have to burn an iso image not transfer. to see that you did it right go into the cd from windows and open the cd. if you see ubuntu.iso then you made a mistake. If you see folders and folders then the burn wasn't successful at all. There may have been an error in the d/l, burn process got screwed, the media sucked, your burn the wrong way, and /or the cd/dvdrom can't read the media properly. I notice the dvd/rom/burner has a hard time booting up or off a media specially a bootable Linux. That is why I have a dvdrom and dvdburner separately.

btw the problems I have listed is from personal experience. Not some guess work.