Life after escorting and massage parlours

[bigshot]

I think it is actually a legal requirement to do that, isn't it?

No, a sales tax is applied to the purchase by the vendor. In this case, the SP is required to charge the client and then remit the tax to the government. I doubt that you yourself have ever made a retail sales tax directly to the government. How can you possibly suggest that the client is the one responsible to remit the tax?

In reality, the fee charged by an SP should already include the tax, and she should make her quarterly remittance to the tax office. Consumers do not remit this tax directly. If you, the service provider, do not charge the tax, you are violating tax law, just like a contractor who works for cash. The penalty falls on you, not your client. I generally find that people who brag about paying no tax to be self absorbed and obnoxious. Oh yes, and enjoy your "free" health care...

 

[red]

excellent. good for you.

 

[mrsCALoki]

I sort of do not get the guys attitude here.

If you work 4 hrs a day at $300 an hr, you can easily squirrel way $1,000 a day. $5,000 in 5 days. in 4 months 60 to 80 thousand. But in Canada, to be able to save that much you need to make well over $250,000 a year.

If we avoid nose candy and Gucci and partying we can get out with a great cushion or pay off a heck of a lot of debt fast.

It is hard, sometimes dangerous, and takes a lot out of us, but it can pay very well.

A bright girl can lever that

 

[TeasePlease]

In reality, the fee charged by an SP should already include the tax, and she should make her quarterly remittance to the tax office. Consumers do not remit this tax directly. If you, the service provider, do not charge the tax, you are violating tax law, just like a contractor who works for cash. The penalty falls on you, not your client. I generally find that people who brag about paying no tax to be self absorbed and obnoxious. Oh yes, and enjoy your "free" health care...

In reality... if an SP chooses not to itemize me separately for HST, it's not my problem!

As for MrsCALoki....I highly doubt she is actually living "tax free". She may be careful not to establish permanent residency in a high tax state, but that is not the only basis of taxation.

Nexus can be created by other means as well. e.g., if she establishes holding companies through which she conducts her venture capitalism. Investment income is also taxed at source.

As a non-resident, she would be subject to high rates of withholding (and presumably not entitled to any treaty benefits).

But hey, we're all speculating. Some people live quite comfortably off the grid.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

No, a sales tax is applied to the purchase by the vendor. In this case, the SP is required to charge the client and then remit the tax to the government. I doubt that you yourself have ever made a retail sales tax directly to the government. How can you possibly suggest that the client is the one responsible to remit the tax?

In reality, the fee charged by an SP should already include the tax, and she should make her quarterly remittance to the tax office. Consumers do not remit this tax directly. If you, the service provider, do not charge the tax, you are violating tax law, just like a contractor who works for cash. The penalty falls on you, not your client. I generally find that people who brag about paying no tax to be self absorbed and obnoxious. Oh yes, and enjoy your "free" health care...

You are right except for the all included part. Ladies should start charging an additional 13% on top of the normal hourly or half hour rate. They should also give customer receipts and keep records in case of an audit, but I don't think to many clients would like that.

No one is tax free however. No matter what anyone says. Anytime you buy gas, food, clothes, etc. It is all taxed. Is it the same as paying income tax? no. But no one lives a tax free life.

 

[justme1453]

Well you go right ahead and do that. On January 1st, 2012 we declared non-resident status and saved a bath tub full of taxes .

taxes pay for peoples healthcare, pensions old people live on, police that protect you, regulations that protect your food etc.. Someday maybe you will be grateful that there is a community of people that believe contributing to society through taxes is not to be avoided but an obligation (one we all wish we did not have to, but understand the reason why). Living off others is not an attractive attribute to me.

 

[mrsCALoki]

No, a sales tax is applied to the purchase by the vendor. In this case, the SP is required to charge the client and then remit the tax to the government. I doubt that you yourself have ever made a retail sales tax directly to the government.

Dahhh yes I have. Pretty much anyone who ever crossed the border had to pay taxes directly to the government if they spent over their free limit. Very annoying.

If you buy a car in Ontario the MTO says:

"As the new owner, by law you must register your used vehicle within six days of the sale. Here is how:
Bring the Used Vehicle Information Package and the vehicle permit with the completed Application for Transfer to a Driver and Vehicle Licence Issuing Office
Pay the retail sales tax. At the time of the transfer, the Driver and Vehicle Licence Issuing Office collects the tax."

It was a joke though . You do not need to take the post seriously.

 

[wazup]

I am disappointed that this thread has taken the direction it has.

Why is it so hard to believe a success story?

I will be honest in admitting that most girls do not get introduced to this industry in any sort of positive way. Most girls do not grow up dreaming of one day being an escort. Whether it be financial hardship, a lack of university funding, complicated homelife, no other realistic options..... There are good reasons out there as well that I cannot think of right now.

Anyways, there are success stories that exist. Some of us do leave and start careers. I have graduated college, almost done two degrees and am professionally certified in my field of choice. I do make the same amount in gross income as I was as an SP after paying my "pimps," but it has been an adjustment not making as much take home pay and not living the lifesytle I once had. However, one day in the not-so-distant future, I hope to be in the same position again while paying 30%+ in taxes.

It has not been easy, and I do sometimes switch to being a sugar babe once in a while, but overall I would never trade my position for anything else.

The men I have come across in the industry were an asset to my success.

Not all women will exit with college/university degrees, but some do.

Because stories that are TGTBT generally are or at least will be questioned. Your story is more believable where the transition to real life is sometimes difficult, as the urge to return to the more `fun and lucrative lifestyle` is ever present.

Sometimes on here or the internet in general the stories that seem too scripted and planned just aren`t believable, for me it happens when I get about halfway through and all of a sudden I start to question the believability of the story, I didn`t with yours.

I think it`s easier for older people to recognize because we`ve been around longer and seen more stuff in our lives, where as the younger crowd tend to believe a lot of what they read. Then again maybe I`m full of shit.

 

[Rockslinger]

Is her story true? I have no idea. But I do know it is possible.

It is possible but probably as likely as winning the lottery. Has anybody here beside the OP made $250,000 annually on their own by the time they were age 26 (I did not)?

 

[mrsCALoki]

As for MrsCALoki....I highly doubt she is actually living "tax free". She may be careful not to establish permanent residency in a high tax state, but that is not the only basis of taxation.

As a non-resident, she would be subject to high rates of withholding (and presumably not entitled to any treaty benefits).

But hey, we're all speculating. Some people live quite comfortably off the grid.

Actually I cannot imagine living off the grid. I have full time residency in a country that does not have inheritance tax, capital gains tax, and has so many tax loop holes that our real invesment / income tax is 0%. I even have a snail mail address and the forwarder scans all the mail and sends it to us electronically. Even the phone number there is forwarded to us all over the world. Loki has rental income froim property in Canada, but it is trivial since it is just used to maintain the property incase we want to come back someday.

It is rather easy to move your invesments into companies and countries where they are not taxed.

We do not generate any income in countries we visit, so of course there is no withholding for tax purposes. The only hard part is remembering which shell in which country is used for which investments.

As long as you are not tied to a job and can live off your investments it is a great life.

With respect to VAT etc I must admit you cannot get all of the sales tax returned when you leave a country. But with the least bit of planning you get Dior tax free as well as most other things that make shopping fun.

So yes I admit I am forced (under protest) to pay tax on services like meals and a few odds and ends .

But I am guessing I only pay a few thousand for all those miscelaneous thinngs. That is close enough to tax free for me

 

[mrsCALoki]

No one is tax free however. No matter what anyone says. Anytime you buy gas, food, clothes, etc. It is all taxed. Is it the same as paying income tax? no. But no one lives a tax free life.

Well fuel and good clothing is indeed taxed here, but you get most of it back when you leave the country. Food sadly is taxable. So in the absolute sense you are correct.

 

[mrsCALoki]

It is possible but probably as likely as winning the lottery. Has anybody here beside the OP made $250,000 annually on their own by the time they were age 26 (I did not)?

I had never even made $25,000 annually by the time I was 26. Come to think of it, I never cleared $2,500 annually after school expences.

I did do significntly better after that though.

 

[great bear]

I had never even made $25,000 annually by the time I was 26. Come to think of it, I never cleared $2,500 annually after school expences.

I did do significntly better after that though.

The child of Green Monster. Another 3$ bill.

 

[Rockslinger]

I had never even made $25,000 annually by the time I was 26.

There was a TERBie who said a couple of years ago that he was making $130,000 (more or less) at age 24. I think he was selling photocopying machine or something like that on commission. I won't mention his handle to protect his privacy.

BTW: Was the $25,000 what you declared to the CRA or what you actually made? Just kidding! Since you are only 22 now, you still have a chance to hit $250,000 by age 26. Hee, hee, hee.

 

[mrsCALoki]

There was a TERBie who said a couple of years ago that he was making $130,000 (more or less) at age 24. I think he was selling photocopying machine or something like that on commission. I won't mention his handle to protect his privacy.

BTW: Was the $25,000 what you declared to the CRA or what you actually made? Just kidding! Since you are only 22 now, you still have a chance to hit $250,000 by age 26. Hee, hee, hee.

Me? I am 28 now. So I will never hit it by 26. I did when I was 27, if that makes you feel better though.

I did tax returns since I was 16, and was always honest. And pretty much got money back every year.

 

[mrsCALoki]

taxes pay for peoples healthcare, pensions old people live on, police that protect you, regulations that protect your food etc.. Someday maybe you will be grateful that there is a community of people that believe contributing to society through taxes is not to be avoided but an obligation (one we all wish we did not have to, but understand the reason why). Living off others is not an attractive attribute to me.

So does that mean you do not claim your personal exemption when you do your taxes? Does that mean you do not claim RRSPs or medical or etc etc?

Of course you do. Only an idiot pays more than he needs to in taxes.

If there is a legal way to pay less taxes you should do it. So stop lecturing others unless you are not claiming whatever you are claiming on your tax forms.

 

[james t kirk]

Actually the IP's and their infrastructure are making tons of money and it is an incredibly dynamic industry. If she is actually able to land many clients in a 6 country division, (men become much easier to sell and manipulate after being an SP) she could be earning that kind of money. And most of the new companies do offer stock and huge bonuses to motivate their sales people. I sort of know that cause I am into venture capital.

Is her story true? I have no idea. But I do know it is possible. I also know your statements are pretty much not accurate in most of the world.

Normally I ignore you, but in this case, I will say this. You know fuck all.

IPs are guys like Bell, Rogers, Telus. (All of which have been laying off staff in the recent past.)

Rogers lays off 775

Telus lays off 1,500

Bell lays off 2,500



Also, IPs don't operate in 6 different countries. Example, Verizon would love to come into Canada, but the CRTC won't allow it. Ditto Rogers would love to set up in the USA, but the FCC won't allow that either.

No company offers "huge bonuses" to motivate either. Bonuses yes, HUGE bonuses, uh, no. In fact, the less they can pay out in salaries and bonuses, the better the bottom line, the higher their bonus.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Normally I ignore you, but in this case, I will say this. You know fuck all.

IPs are guys like Bell, Rogers, Telus. (All of which have been laying off staff in the recent past.)

Rogers lays off 775

Telus lays off 1,500

Bell lays off 2,500



Also, IPs don't operate in 6 different countries. Example, Verizon would love to come into Canada, but the CRTC won't allow it. Ditto Rogers would love to set up in the USA, but that isn't allowed US gov't either.

No company offers "huge bonuses" to motivate either. Bonuses yes, HUGE bonuses, uh, no. In fact, the less they can pay out in salaries and bonuses, the better the bottom line, the higher their bonus.

Must be my bad. I thought she said working abroad. And I sort of assumed that she would be working in the international market and not in the protectionist North American market. I guess one of us did not bother to read information she provided .

Thank you for letting me know that I know fuck all. Some times I even think I need to carry british pounds in my purse to buy sweets. I am so handicaped by not having a vision or reality as clear as yours . :rofl:

But I will admit my knowledge of international providers is limited to one venture capital deal.

CA

 

[krayjee]

It all sound like a fairy tale, but this is a very lucrative business with lots of resources. If you are well disciplined , have a goal and motivation to make your life better, and if you met the right person while working, anything is possible. I know of two ladies who are doing really well and living in mansions. Both used to work at SRM. One was very close to me in her working days at SRM. She was barely 23 and all by herself alone in a strange country. She was very disciplined, always asking for advice, working hard even on her days off from spa, worked part time at a jewelry store and operating 6-7 vending machines. She bought a house at age 24 with more than half a million in assets. Now she is living out west, happily married to one of her wealthy regular, living in a mansion and she'll be 27 yrs old in a few months.

 

[wangbang]

Ex-p, stories like yours are why I have always insisted that I won't consider someone as a sugar baby unless they are going to school.

It actually feels good to think I'm paying their tuition.