Liberals Promise $1 Billion to Provinces for new National School Food Program

[Frankfooter]

are you still here ?
you have absolutely no shame after been absolutely proven wrong about the extreme weather propaganda
and now you are back trying to down play the true cost of the carbon tax and slide in some more propaganda about wildfires[

You have never proven one single fact other than your ignorance about science.

despite have previously been the facts showing acreage burnt is down significantly
unless of course you re claiming climate change is different in the us vs Brazil

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So now we have you pegged in more detail
you just rotate through your scary propaganda pieces, get called out for them by facts ,

you pay the truth zero heed and move onto your next lie , despite knowing them to be false

get some help

We've been over this before multiple times. The data before 1983 was not reported the same way in the US.
US federal wildfire page:
Prior to 1983, the federal wildland fire agencies did not track official wildfire data using current reporting processes. As a result, there is no official data prior to 1983 posted on this site."

Your denialism is pathetic. You cherry picked one country's forest fire data, ignoring global data because of this one error.
Meanwhile you ignore all these measurements:

Global temp
Sea levels
Sea temps
Polar melts
Glacial melts
Extreme weather events

All of those measurements show the IPCC projections are doing very, very well and you are arguing on behalf of the oil&gas industry to fuck up the planet for your own children, should you have any.

 

[JohnLarue]

You have never proven one single fact other than your ignorance about science.

i have proved you wrong so many times I have lost count

see posts 32 & 55 as recent, relevant examples

watching you try to fake your way through science discussions is like watching someone try to play ice hockey despite not ever having skated before
Your ignorance is that obvious
and so is your lying

We've been over this before multiple times. The data before 1983 was not reported the same way in the US.
US federal wildfire page:
Prior to 1983, the federal wildland fire agencies did not track official wildfire data using current reporting processes. As a result, there is no official data prior to 1983 posted on this site."

https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/statistics/wildfires

you can not just pretend the previous data does not exist
the climate alarmists tried pulling a fast one, they got caught and now you want to claim the data is no good ?
what is wrong with you?

Your denialism is pathetic. You cherry picked one country's forest fire data, ignoring global data because of this one error.

usa wild fires have decreased
yet you want everyone to believe the rest of the world fire burn acreage has increased since the 1920s ?

once again you should realize when your lying appears ridiculous and comical

Meanwhile you ignore all these measurements:[

wrong again

Global temp

satellite temps shown nothing that can not be explained by natural variability of a coupled non-linear chaotic system
try learning what non-linear means
try learning what chaotic means

Sea levels

sea levels have been rising slowly for 20,00 years , nothing new here
the Maldives island asked for $$ claiming their island is sinking
then they built several new airports and land area increase have been reports
its all about the Benjamin's

Sea temps

Ha Ha , good luck getting accurate temp data going back more than 40 years

Polar melts
Glacial melts

90% of the worlds ice and 70% of the world fresh water are in Antarctica which is frozen 99% of the time

You do understand the temperature must be above the frizzing point for melting to occur or do you not understand this ?

Extreme weather events

WTF, now you do not even wait a day or two to repeat a lie
see posts 32 & 55

IPCC has low confidence in extreme weather changes
You do understand what low confidence means or do you not understand this ?

All of those measurements show the IPCC projections are doing very, very well

the models are worthless

and you are arguing on behalf of the oil&gas industry to fuck up the planet for your own children, should you have any.

the blithering's of a fool
how many people have you falsely accused of being on the oil&gas industry payroll?
anyone who you feel needs cancelling ?
I see

grow up

 

[Skoob]

he is a lefty, all they do is lie

Most of the time, to themselves.

 

[JohnLarue]

that is the worst kind of lie

that might depend on the redemption potential of the character who is lying

pathological liars are beyond redemption


some pathological liars do not even wait a day before repeating a lie and don not give it a second thought

 

[Frankfooter]

i have proved you wrong so many times I have lost count

see posts 32 & 55 as recent, relevant examples

watching you try to fake your way through science discussions is like watching someone try to play ice hockey despite not ever having skated before
Your ignorance is that obvious
and so is your lying

Baseless slander.
You have proven nothing here, ever.

https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/statistics/wildfires

you can not just pretend the previous data does not exist
the climate alarmists tried pulling a fast one, they got caught and now you want to claim the data is no good ?
what is wrong with you?

You realize that you just proved my point, that the national records were updated to start from 1983 because all previous data was not dependable.
Instead you rely on 20 year old science denier copies of the records as if they were the only ones that count.
Its you that are intentionally misrepresenting the data and stats on US wildfires.

usa wild fires have decreased
yet you want everyone to believe the rest of the world fire burn acreage has increased since the 1920s ?

once again you should realize when your lying appears ridiculous and comical

No, they haven't.
You are lying based on using intentionally incorrect data.

satellite temps shown nothing that can not be explained by natural variability of a coupled non-linear chaotic system
try learning what non-linear means
try learning what chaotic means

No, the satellite data shows the exact same warming as surface data.
Even though satellite data doesn't measure surface temperature, which is what we are talking about, it shows the planet warming.
You intentionally try to bait and switch toposphere temperatures when the debate is about surface temperatures.

sea levels have been rising slowly for 20,00 years , nothing new here
the Maldives island asked for $$ claiming their island is sinking
then they built several new airports and land area increase have been reports
its all about the Benjamin's

Stupid denial.

Ha Ha , good luck getting accurate temp data going back more than 40 years
90% of the worlds ice and 70% of the world fresh water are in Antarctica which is frozen 99% of the time
You do understand the temperature must be above the frizzing point for melting to occur or do you not understand this ?
WTF, now you do not even wait a day or two to repeat a lie
see posts 32 & 55
IPCC has low confidence in extreme weather changes
You do understand what low confidence means or do you not understand this ?

This is stupid and incoherent rambling.
Nothing here disputes the climate data I continue to reference.
Your inability to understand IPCC confidence levels is just more evidence of your ignorance.

the models are worthless

Stupid comment when the evidence shows they have been very, very good.
Nothing you have ever presented by any source has disputed those records, presented alternate theories or even remotely as close projections.
Nothing.

the blithering's of a fool
how many people have you falsely accused of being on the oil&gas industry payroll?
anyone who you feel needs cancelling ?
I see

grow up

You once said something to the effect that if you are wrong you are participating in the greatest crime against humanity ever.

 

[JohnLarue]

Baseless slander.
You have proven nothing here, ever.

see posts 32 & 55

You once said something to the effect that if you are wrong you are participating in the greatest crime against humanity ever.

no that's not what i said , you blithering fool

there is no climate emergency
The IPCC has low confidence that extreme weather events are increasing
and
you are completely untrustworthy and a laughing stock

watching you try to fake your way through science discussions is like watching someone try to play ice hockey despite not ever having skated before
Your ignorance is that obvious
and so is your lying

when is you next clown show?

 

[bver_hunter]

When suggesting the carbon tax won't change the climate (or
something to the same effect) I am questioning the
consistency of our climate policy; I am not stating the reason why
I am opposed to it. I am opposed to carbon tax for the same reason
why majority of Canadians loathe it---the tax sucks.

Our climate leaders declared world is in the
middle of climate crisis, carbon emission has to be reduced
by half in less than a decade and to zero by 2050 to save younger
generation from suffering and dying. Personally I believe that is
fear mongering BS. But for me to accept the carbon tax as a
measure to fight climate change to be reasonable I would look
into the tax from a climate-advocate's perspective. My thinking
is that the tax won't save the climate because it won't likely induce
people to rethink their gas-gluttony in the context of climate change.
The tax does serve the purpose of convincing a fraction of climate
sheeple Trudeau is doing his job to combat climate change; you
know the people who benefits from the rebates and are naive
enough to believe impacts of droughts and forest fire on crops and
grocery prices are to be lessened by Trudeau and Guilbeault's ponzi
scheme. I see no reason why we should go along with the tax to help
with Trudeau's virtue-signalling.

Comparing the Climate Change to a "Ponzi scheme" is beyond ridiculousness!!
There are over currently 27 nations that have imposed either the Carbon Tax or The Cap and Trade policy. There are around 10 more Nations that want to also sign up for such an initiative.
Do you think that if it was a Ponzi scheme then all those nations would have signed up for it?
Anyway, you think that doing nothing is the right way to go about it and let the Forest Fires and Droughts get worse with time?
If 80% of Canadians are benefiting from the rebate that also helps to bring down the emissions in the long run, then the actual Science matters and not the Climate Change Deniers who keep on posting more and more conspiracy theories. Pee Pee is playing The "Axe the Tax" card by pretending to be on the side of the Canadians who are affected by the current Global factors such as the Supply Chain Disruptions including the Suez Canal, War in Ukraine and now the expected more severe droughts and forest fires expected this Season, housing and inflation. Sooner or later his true colours will be fully revealed in this respect, as he has no real solution to replace The Carbon Tax or build new homes in a more concise manner!!

 

[bver_hunter]

You have any idea how many millions of tonnes of dirty coal
are exported from B.C. per year? And as recent as 2023 the
climate-change non-deniers there show apparently had no
intention to reduce let alone stop contributing to world's carbon
emission growth.

B.C.’s dirty little secret: it is ramping up thermal coal exports

As wildfires rage around the world, Canadian billionaire Jim Pattison is doubling down on the dirtiest fossil fuel

ricochet.media

Eventually, these exports will be phased out. however, are you aware of the quality of the BC Coal and its use as a raw material?
The coal exports from British Columbia are metallurgical coal, among the least carbon-intensive coal in the world, and it is used to make steel for things like wind turbines and many other facets of the clean economy.
Now I'm not making any excuses for it but no doubt it is subject to BC's Cap and Trade Legislations.
Since BC imposed the Carbon Taxes, it has one of the most robust Economy in Canada!!

 

[bver_hunter]

nobody is denying climate and that it's changing,

but the biggest polluters are being let off the hook

our carbon tax will accomplish nothing but make Canada broke

you were sold a lie that somehow if you pay more taxes then Trudeau is going to stop climate change

so naive it boggles the mind

Then why arriver 27 other nations in the world including the EU actually implementing it?
Do they want their nations to go "broke"?
All the Nations will go really broke if we do nothing to address this climate change.
If ou have any alternative, then please relay it to Pee Pee who avoids revealing his alternative to "Axe The Tax"!!

 

[Frankfooter]

see posts 32 & 55



no that's not what i said , you blithering fool

there is no climate emergency
The IPCC has low confidence that extreme weather events are increasing
and
you are completely untrustworthy and a laughing stock

watching you try to fake your way through science discussions is like watching someone try to play ice hockey despite not ever having skated before
Your ignorance is that obvious
and so is your lying

when is you next clown show?

Your personal opinion is worthless.
You get the basics of science wrong continually.

The world is warming just as much as scientists warned us.
You spread disinformation here continually.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1772298303578775872

 

[JohnLarue]

 

[Frankfooter]

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Its really interesting that you think you are the one posting facts.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

You post old science denier crap and are totally afraid to look directly at real sources.
Take the NASA climate page, are you going to argue that NASA is lying and only you really know the truth?

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

 

[JohnLarue]

Your personal opinion is worthless.
You get the basics of science wrong continually.

The world is warming just as much as scientists warned us.
You spread disinformation here continually.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1772298303578775872

too funny
you think the corrupt Michael Mann is a credible source?
the author of the broken fraudulent hockey stick?

that is akin to trusting Bernie Madoff for investment advise
or trusting Bill Cosby for dating advice

Your personal opinion is worthless.
You get the basics of science wrong continually.

too funny
you are a high school drop out pretending to be a science expert

btw: it is " fundamentals of science" not ''the basics of science''
you should not have dropped out of high school if you wanted to pretend to be knowledgeable about scientific matters

its not my personal opinion you are arguing with
your authority, the IPCC published the fact they have 'low confidence' in an increase extreme weather events

when is your next clown show ?

 

[Frankfooter]

too funny
you think the corrupt Michael Mann is a credible source?
the author of the broken fraudulent hockey stick?

that akin to trusting Bernie Madoff for investment advise
or trusting Bill Cosby for dating advice


too funny
you are a high school drop out pretending to be a science expert

btw: it is " fundamentals of science" not ''the basics of science''
you should not have dropped out of high school if you wanted to pretend to be knowledgeable about scientific matters

its not my personal opinion you are arguing with
your authority, the IPCC published the fact they have 'low confidence' in an increase extreme weather events

when is your next clown show ?

There you go attacking the character of NASA and Michael E Mann.
You really should try reading the current news some day, Mann has won every challenge against his work and the hockey stick chart has been validated over and over again.

Jury awards climate scientist Michael Mann $1 million in defamation lawsuit

A jury said Mann was defamed 12 years ago when a pair of conservative writers compared his depictions of global warming to a convicted child molester.

apnews.com

You know nothing about science, your theories of IR would get you flunked out of high school, let alone university.

 

[Skoob]

Comparing the Climate Change to a "Ponzi scheme" is beyond ridiculousness!!
There are over currently 27 nations that have imposed either the Carbon Tax or The Cap and Trade policy. There are around 10 more Nations that want to also sign up for such an initiative.
Do you think that if it was a Ponzi scheme then all those nations would have signed up for it?
Anyway, you think that doing nothing is the right way to go about it and let the Forest Fires and Droughts get worse with time?
If 80% of Canadians are benefiting from the rebate that also helps to bring down the emissions in the long run, then the actual Science matters and not the Climate Change Deniers who keep on posting more and more conspiracy theories. Pee Pee is playing The "Axe the Tax" card by pretending to be on the side of the Canadians who are affected by the current Global factors such as the Supply Chain Disruptions including the Suez Canal, War in Ukraine and now the expected more severe droughts and forest fires expected this Season, housing and inflation. Sooner or later his true colours will be fully revealed in this respect, as he has no real solution to replace The Carbon Tax or build new homes in a more concise manner!!

Ponzi Scheme definition: a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

I think the carbon tax scheme fits this definition perfectly don't you?


You think Canadians are benefitting financially from the carbon tax rebates?

Explain the math.

 

[JohnLarue]

Ponzi Scheme definition: a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

I think the carbon tax scheme fits this definition perfectly don't you?


You think Canadians are benefitting financially from the carbon tax rebates?

Explain the math.

wealth redistribution definition: The transfer of income, property, or wealth from one individual or group to another individual or group.

However if one needs to deceive the public and present it to the public as a tax on plant food , then there is something wrong with the plan.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ponzi Scheme definition: a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

I think the carbon tax scheme fits this definition perfectly don't you?


You think Canadians are benefitting financially from the carbon tax rebates?

Explain the math.

You need to go back and take some high school math courses.
Nobody here has the time to teach you the basics again and again.

 

[JohnLarue]

 

[canada-man]

get rid of income taxe but keep sales taxes

 

[bver_hunter]

Ponzi Scheme definition: a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

I think the carbon tax scheme fits this definition perfectly don't you?


You think Canadians are benefitting financially from the carbon tax rebates?

Explain the math.

What form of "fraud" category involves the Carbon Tax? Everything is above the table and we are all the first investors, unlike the Ponzi scheme that depends on the later investors according to that definition of yours!! So, absolutely no correlation between Climate Change and Ponzi scheme !!

Some of these GIFs do not work, but the myth that Canadians do not benefit is fully revealed in the link below:

10 GIFs that debunk myths about carbon pricing in Canada
Tabatha Southey: I encourage you to read a new concise report about carbon pricing myths. But in order for it to be most useful, I’ve taken some liberties.

10 GIFs that debunk myths about carbon pricing in Canada - Macleans.ca

Tabatha Southey: I encourage you to read a new concise report about carbon pricing myths. But in order for it to be most useful, I’ve taken some liberties.

macleans.ca

Can you dispute the facts in that article?

For once please curtail the conspiracy theories with regards to the Carbon Tax!!