Lets Not Forget Pierre Polivere was promoting Anti vaxxers and MGTOW KKKONVOY where he showed his true colours which is black

[Dutch Oven]

So one Judge that chaired the emergencies act hearing concluded it was justified, and another then said it was NOT justified. So there will be an appeal. I think the fact that 2 senior judges disagreed makes its use at least plausable. Its not easy being the PM and making the right decision all the time and have others second guess your decision. Trudeau erred on the side of caution, and I think his decision was not taken without careful consideration and consultation. So all the judicial decisions will be added to the data on what consitutes an emergency to assist future govts in deciding if emergency powers need to be used. Bottomline: If two senior judges disagree, how the FUCK can you expect the PM to make such a decison unerringly.

Careful consideration and consultation are good practices that assist governments in making the right decision in many cases, but in the end a government's action either violates the charter or it doesn't. Violations of the Charter are not saved by "good intentions" or "inclusive consultations". They are only saved by s. 1, and the decision of the court found that they weren't saved in this case.

When you are elected to and assume the responsibilities of government, you are expected to make difficult decisions and you are expected to get them right. If you create a track record of getting things wrong, and in particular getting important decisions wrong, the voters SHOULD replace you.

 

[nottyboi]

Careful consideration and consultation are good practices that assist governments in making the right decision in many cases, but in the end a government's action either violates the charter or it doesn't. Violations of the Charter are not saved by "good intentions" or "inclusive consultations". They are only saved by s. 1, and the decision of the court found that they weren't saved in this case.

When you are elected to and assume the responsibilities of government, you are expected to make difficult decisions and you are expected to get them right. If you create a track record of getting things wrong, and in particular getting important decisions wrong, the voters SHOULD replace you.

As I said before, one esteemed judge said it was justified, and another said it was not. So if the govt over stepped its bounds it was not by much. Anyone that knows anything knows the legislation is very vague and subjective to give govts latitude to act. It was an important decision and I think most Canadians understand it was a difficult one and still support the govts decision.

Even after the court ruling Canadians (who are none to fond of Trudeau) STILL support that decision: And the more educated the higher the support as they understand the decision complicated.

Poll shows sharp divisions over Emergencies Act

In an online poll this week, most of you said that the use of the Emergencies Act had been justified, but a close look at the data shows some very sharp and revealing divisions on the issue

www.cambridgetoday.ca

 

[Dutch Oven]

As I said before, one esteemed judge said it was justified, and another said it was not. So if the govt over stepped its bounds it was not by much. Anyone that knows anything knows the legislation is very vague and subjective to give govts latitude to act. It was an important decision and I think most Canadians understand it was a difficult one and still support the govts decision.

Even after the court ruling Canadians (who are none to fond of Trudeau) STILL support that decision: And the more educated the higher the support as they understand the decision complicated.

Poll shows sharp divisions over Emergencies Act

In an online poll this week, most of you said that the use of the Emergencies Act had been justified, but a close look at the data shows some very sharp and revealing divisions on the issue

www.cambridgetoday.ca

The court decision is the one that matters. That's the decision that is legally enforceable. If the court decision stands, Canadians who supported or still support the government's decision need to revise their conception of reality.

P.s. A chairperson of an Inquiry is not a judge, nor is the hearing conducted like a trial, nor does it serve the same purpose as a trial. Don't believe me? Here it is from the horses mouth:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/paul-rouleau-head-of-emergencies-act-inquiry-1.6616976#:~:text=Politics-,'An%20open%20mind'%3A%20A%20look%20at%20Justice%20Paul%20Rouleau,leading%20the%20convoy%20protest%20inquiry

 

[Frankfooter]

Charter of Rights was violated by Trudeau.

You can twist words and try to deflect as much as you like but it doesn't change that fact.

Why do you support a a government who violates the charter and holds the record for the most ethics violations ever?

What is the crime committed and what are the sentencing guidelines, skoob?
Prove your point.

 

[Skoob]

What is the crime committed and what are the sentencing guidelines, skoob?
Prove your point.

You mean if someone doesn't go to jail it doesn't count?

 

[nottyboi]

The court decision is the one that matters. That's the decision that is legally enforceable. If the court decision stands, Canadians who supported or still support the government's decision need to revise their conception of reality.

P.s. A chairperson of an Inquiry is not a judge, nor is the hearing conducted like a trial, nor does it serve the same purpose as a trial. Don't believe me? Here it is from the horses mouth:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/paul-rouleau-head-of-emergencies-act-inquiry-1.6616976#:~:text=Politics-,'An%20open%20mind'%3A%20A%20look%20at%20Justice%20Paul%20Rouleau,leading%20the%20convoy%20protest%20inquiry

Well the govt will appeal it,

 

[Not getting younger]

Well the govt will appeal it,

you don’t grasp politics do you?

 

[Frankfooter]

You mean if someone doesn't go to jail it doesn't count?

You have to name the crime he committed and tell us what punishments are usually given.
Unless its not a crime at all and you're just bullshitting.....

 

[Phatazluvr123]

How is MGTOW a problem ??
women have been just destroying men in divorce for decades now and men are finally waking up and not putting themselves in harms way via marriage ? I for one support men moving away from marriage in the western it supports women to walk away and get financially compensated for it ! This is men’s advocacy not misogyny

 

[JuanGoodman]

Obviously, you did not read the full context of the invitation. The invitation from Trudeau's office was NOT TO THE PARLIAMENT.
It was on the behest of the Canadian-Ukrainian Committee at their rally.
So get your facts correct as it had nothing to do with the Parliament. Anyway, Hunka did not end up attending that rally!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hunka-invited-toronto-event-zelenskyy-1.7105610

On the other hand Pee Pee was practically holding hands with a far right extremist during the FreeDumb Convoy Demonstrations!!

I know that you guys will never admit to being wrong

but at this point it's completely ridiculous

it's like you invite somebody to your house

but you blame your wife for inviting them into the kitchen

 

[JuanGoodman]

 

[Skoob]

You have to name the crime he committed and tell us what punishments are usually given.
Unless its not a crime at all and you're just bullshitting.....

Section 24(1) of the Charter states that any person whose Charter rights have been violated may ask a court to determine an appropriate remedy.

So what else do you want to use as a distraction for a government you support that violates people's rights and holds the record for most ethics violations in Canadian history?

 

[Frankfooter]

Section 24(1) of the Charter states that any person whose Charter rights have been violated may ask a court to determine an appropriate remedy.

So what else do you want to use as a distraction for a government you support that violates people's rights and holds the record for most ethics violations in Canadian history?

And what is the appropriate remedy suggested here?

 

[bver_hunter]

I know that you guys will never admit to being wrong

but at this point it's completely ridiculous

it's like you invite somebody to your house

but you blame your wife for inviting them into the kitchen

You were accusing the Trudeau Govt. of inviting him to the Parliament.
Those were two totally different events, and The Ukrainian-Canadian Assoc. requested that invitation including around a thousand others specifically for the Zelensky meeting with them.

A better analogy is you inviting someone to a picnic that embarrassed your family in front of all those folks, and then blaming your wife for an invitation to a totally separate private event in your kitchen!!

 

[wigglee]

A federal judge has said otherwise. And until such time there is a successful appeal, that verdict stands. Or do you not know that many guilty people rot in prison for years until all appeals are concluded?

and let’s be clear. This is a topic and abuse of power that goes far beyond most others and far deeper than just JT……….A federal judge has decided the “Liberal Party”

A) did not meet the legal threshold to employ the EMA

B ) Used measures that infringed on individual rights. Including the rights of citizens not even there!

C) given your posting history I know for a fact what you would scream, every “leftie” here would be screaming…if I grounded you, roughed you up a little and slapped cuffs on you. Without meeting the legal threshold to do so.

Think Rodney King.
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As far other things go. I suggest you do some research on which classes ( demographics) were hit the hardest on the health front and economic front.

The convoy came to Ottawa to try and force Trudeau to resign. We have elections to determine who is PM, not angry mobs occupying the capital waving confederate flags and fuck trudeau flags ( largely funded by American MAGA morons) , all because they don't want to co-operate with a health measure designed to protect the people of Canada. There was a time when Canadians were asked to join together and fight Hitler and they did, but now many refuse to co-operate and yell freedom because they've been conned by the tin foil internet crowd...... pathetic. In Flanders fields, they are turning in their graves.

 

[Not getting younger]

The convoy came to Ottawa to try and force Trudeau to resign. We have elections to determine who is PM, not angry mobs occupying the capital waving confederate flags and fuck trudeau flags ( largely funded by American MAGA morons) , all because they don't want to co-operate with a health measure designed to protect the people of Canada. There was a time when Canadians were asked to join together and fight Hitler and they did, but now many refuse to co-operate and yell freedom because they've been conned by the tin foil internet crowd...... pathetic. In Flanders fields, they are turning in their graves.

tell that to the judge and Rodney King

 

[squeezer]

tell that to the judge and Rodney King

you should tell it to the folks living in Ottawa having to put up with the FREEEEEDUMMMMMMBBBBBBBB twats and yahoos

Judge tosses motion to dismiss proposed class-action lawsuit against convoy participants

Paul Champ, the Ottawa lawyer who launched the proposed class-action suit on behalf of the plaintiffs, said he was pleased with the outcome.

ottawacitizen.com

Trudeau snaps back at Poilievre jab about his teaching career during heated debate

An-already heated debate during question period in the House of Commons on Wednesday took a personal turn when Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre mocked Pr...

www.youtube.com

 

[Not getting younger]

you should tell it to the folks living in Ottawa having to put up with the FREEEEEDUMMMMMMBBBBBBBB twats and yahoos

Judge tosses motion to dismiss proposed class-action lawsuit against convoy participants

Paul Champ, the Ottawa lawyer who launched the proposed class-action suit on behalf of the plaintiffs, said he was pleased with the outcome.

ottawacitizen.com

Trudeau snaps back at Poilievre jab about his teaching career during heated debate

An-already heated debate during question period in the House of Commons on Wednesday took a personal turn when Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre mocked Pr...

www.youtube.com

You are still struggling with the hard to grasp fact that the Liberal Party did not meet the legal threshold to employ the EMA . And further it’s infringed on Indians rights. You truly do have problems with simple things.

whether anyone agrees with or not, the reason for the protest, whether they should have been removed or not. Is totally utterly immaterial that only a totally utter ignorant so called defender of freedom would fails to grasp.

See Rodney King. So in your moronic brain that gives the police the right to beat the crap out of someone at a riot.

See the G20. In your moronic brain just because some disaffected youth went too far. That gives the powers that be and the police the right to commit the single largest abuse of rights in Canadian history.

Hope someday a cop decides he’s having a bad day and takes it out on you aka Rodney King style. Then we will see if you change your tune.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are still struggling with the hard to grasp fact that the Liberal Party did not meet the legal threshold to employ the EMA . And further it’s infringed on Indians rights. You truly do have problems with simple things.

One judge ruled for, one ruled against and its going to appeal.
Its still very much more popular than the convoy.

If you're campaigning on an issue, this is an excellently unpopular choice for PeePee.
So go for it.

 

[Not getting younger]

One judge ruled for, one ruled against and its going to appeal.
Its still very much more popular than the convoy.

If you're campaigning on an issue, this is an excellently unpopular choice for PeePee.
So go for it.

do you grasp the differences between public inquires and courts of law?

Seriously Frank, is there anything you grasp? At all? You don’t even know your ammunition is all blanks and why despite hundreds of attempts your at 0.00%