So .3 of a percent is the difference between legal and illegal? That's kinda ridiculous.
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So why are they always sniffing each other's assholes?
I've owned several air rifles and pistols before. The CO2 gas cartridge is great because you can fire multiple shots, but it's muzzle velocity is still limited. I owned a Crosman Pump pistol which is the most powerful air pistol you can legally own in Canada, 495 fps. The limit is 500 fps, but the drawback is that it requires several pumps to reach that maximum. It can do more damage than pistol in the original post, however, the pain it inflicts and stopping power is laughable compared to a real firearm. If I was attacked at home, I'd prefer my 12" meat cutting knifeBut it can do a bit of damage. Especially if you get hit in the face.
Here's screenshots of test videos.
The first is the mark it leaves in wood.
The 2nd is the bruises it does to the body
, that I can use to stab and slash.
Incorrect.
Be precise when you state so-called facts.
You can own much more powerful air rifles, but they are then classified differently as the ones below 500 fps.
One random example:
Stoeger® Sport 4000L Grey Synthetic High-Powered Air Rifle Combo | Cabela's Canada
• Includes 4x32 scope • Ergonomic, comfortable fit • Break-action cocking system Chambered in .177 pellet, the Stoeger Sport 4000L Grey is a comfortable, ergonomically designed air rifle that can be customized to each shooter. Driven by a powerful spring piston, the Sport 4000L Grey can...
For over 500 fps you need a PAL to purchase.
Totally legal.
LOL, no, DON'T talk to a criminal lawyer before trying to use anything for self -defense in Canada!
Are you serious? You are saying, risking your life is better then risking jail?
Of COURSE you are going to go through legal things if you shoot dead someone invading your house with a gun - as you should! We can't just allow RANDOM SHOOTINGS, but...if someone is posing an imminent threat to your life, you kill that person if necessary to preserve your own life. Then, if you can prove that it was necessary, you are fine. If not, you may go to jail for manslaughter.
But last time I heard, when you go to jail for manslaughter you are actually alive, no?
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This idea that you can't kill someone with a gun that is threatening your life is a bit of an urban legend:
https://torontosun.com/news/national/hunter-rural-home-invasions-becoming-a-killing-zone-for-thugs
"Some of Canada’s small army of home invasion thugs might want to start giving a think to terrorizing people in rural areas.
In the past week, three have been iced by their targeted victims. You won’t hear a lot about it. Law enforcement in eastern Ontario and New Brunswick have been deathly quiet about the two incidents.
Cops say that on Feb. 2, around 9 p.m., OPP officers were called to a rural home in South Glengarry — about 110 kilometres southeast of Ottawa — for reports of two people shot.
Inside the house were two men who had been shot to death. A third slipped away in a vehicle and has not yet been found.
Detectives say the incident was targeted. But the outcome was certainly not what the thugs had desired.
“These individuals did go there for a reason, did force their way into the home and were confronted by an individual resulting in two of them being deceased and one on the run,” OPP spokesman Bill Dickson said.
As for the residents, they were unharmed. They were taken into custody but later released unconditionally, and no charges have been laid.
Cops have not released the names of the recently departed home invaders.
Dickson told The Toronto Sun Tuesday that the investigation is “still ongoing” and that detectives were trying to determine the nature of the apparent home invasion.
Across the country, death came calling for Brian Justin Johnson, 35. The Halifax man was taken off the board by a New Brunswick homeowner during what cops describe as a “violent home invasion.”
On Feb. 6, around 5:51 a.m., RCMP officers responded to a report of a home invasion in the tiny hamlet of Berry Hill, west of Moncton.
Cops said the invaders blew the door out with a shotgun to gain entry. But there was no prize behind Door Number One.
According to cops, a man and woman in their early thirties were home when three thugs forcibly broke into their home. Among the cast was the unfortunate Mr. Johnson who was found dead at the scene.
When police arrived, Johnson’s compadres were long gone. Cops described the incident as “targeted.” So far, there have been no charges filed against the homeowners.
For felons practising the fine art of home invasion, as in real estate, it’s location, location, location.
You’re unlikely to get wasted pulling a home invasion in Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering or Rosedale.
But once you go rural, there’s a greater chance that your intended victim has a gun and a greater likelihood you’ll be fitted with a toe tag.
Philosophical hitman Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) thwarts Pumpkin and Honey Bunny’s scheme in Pulp Fiction. But he doesn’t ice them.
“You happen to pull this s*** while I’m in a transitional period, so I don’t wanna kill you,” Winnfield tells the pair.
Rural home invaders should probably pray that some of the armed country folk are also in a “transitional period” if the last week’s events are any indication."
https://torontosun.com/news/national/hunter-rural-home-invasions-becoming-a-killing-zone-for-thugs
"Some of Canada’s small army of home invasion thugs might want to start giving a think to terrorizing people in rural areas.
In the past week, three have been iced by their targeted victims. You won’t hear a lot about it. Law enforcement in eastern Ontario and New Brunswick have been deathly quiet about the two incidents.
Cops say that on Feb. 2, around 9 p.m., OPP officers were called to a rural home in South Glengarry — about 110 kilometres southeast of Ottawa — for reports of two people shot.
Inside the house were two men who had been shot to death. A third slipped away in a vehicle and has not yet been found.
Detectives say the incident was targeted. But the outcome was certainly not what the thugs had desired.
“These individuals did go there for a reason, did force their way into the home and were confronted by an individual resulting in two of them being deceased and one on the run,” OPP spokesman Bill Dickson said.
As for the residents, they were unharmed. They were taken into custody but later released unconditionally, and no charges have been laid.
Cops have not released the names of the recently departed home invaders.
Dickson told The Toronto Sun Tuesday that the investigation is “still ongoing” and that detectives were trying to determine the nature of the apparent home invasion.
Across the country, death came calling for Brian Justin Johnson, 35. The Halifax man was taken off the board by a New Brunswick homeowner during what cops describe as a “violent home invasion.”
On Feb. 6, around 5:51 a.m., RCMP officers responded to a report of a home invasion in the tiny hamlet of Berry Hill, west of Moncton.
Cops said the invaders blew the door out with a shotgun to gain entry. But there was no prize behind Door Number One.
According to cops, a man and woman in their early thirties were home when three thugs forcibly broke into their home. Among the cast was the unfortunate Mr. Johnson who was found dead at the scene.
When police arrived, Johnson’s compadres were long gone. Cops described the incident as “targeted.” So far, there have been no charges filed against the homeowners.
For felons practising the fine art of home invasion, as in real estate, it’s location, location, location.
You’re unlikely to get wasted pulling a home invasion in Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering or Rosedale.
But once you go rural, there’s a greater chance that your intended victim has a gun and a greater likelihood you’ll be fitted with a toe tag.
Philosophical hitman Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) thwarts Pumpkin and Honey Bunny’s scheme in Pulp Fiction. But he doesn’t ice them.
“You happen to pull this s*** while I’m in a transitional period, so I don’t wanna kill you,” Winnfield tells the pair.
Rural home invaders should probably pray that some of the armed country folk are also in a “transitional period” if the last week’s events are any indication."
We are discussing weapons that don't require a PAL, obviously.Incorrect.
Be precise when you state so-called facts.
You can own much more powerful air rifles, but they are then classified differently as the ones below 500 fps.
One random example:
Stoeger® Sport 4000L Grey Synthetic High-Powered Air Rifle Combo | Cabela's Canada
• Includes 4x32 scope • Ergonomic, comfortable fit • Break-action cocking system Chambered in .177 pellet, the Stoeger Sport 4000L Grey is a comfortable, ergonomically designed air rifle that can be customized to each shooter. Driven by a powerful spring piston, the Sport 4000L Grey can...www.cabelas.ca
For over 500 fps you need a PAL to purchase.
Totally legal.
The ridiculous thing about Canadian law is if you do shoot someone dead in self-defense, you will still end up being charged, and you then have to spend tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars on a good lawyer to get yourself acquitted. Thats money you'll never see back either
Nice after-the-fact try, LOL.
"I owned a Crosman Pump pistol which is the most powerful air pistol you can legally own in Canada, 495 fps."
That is factually incorrect.
If you had said "without a permit" - fine, but you didn't.
Ah! I get it.
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So really, what you said was that " the most powerful air pistol you can legally own in Canada, 495 fps. The limit is 500 fps, ",
BUT, , it was kind of understood, I mean, everyone should have known that what you meant was,
"The most powerful air pistol you can legally own in Canada, is 495fps, unless you , ahhh, legally own an air rifle that is over 500 fps, if you do it legally.
Gotcha.
Read the title of the thread. Looks like you and the other guy have egos so huge that you enjoy wasting your time trying to prove someone on the internet wrong, even when it's not relevant to the discussion. Get a life!
To be precise, the under 500 fps only applies to.177 cal pellets or BB's with a mass less than 8 grams.Incorrect.
Be precise when you state so-called facts.
You can own much more powerful air rifles, but they are then classified differently as the ones below 500 fps.
One random example:
Stoeger® Sport 4000L Grey Synthetic High-Powered Air Rifle Combo | Cabela's Canada
• Includes 4x32 scope • Ergonomic, comfortable fit • Break-action cocking system Chambered in .177 pellet, the Stoeger Sport 4000L Grey is a comfortable, ergonomically designed air rifle that can be customized to each shooter. Driven by a powerful spring piston, the Sport 4000L Grey can...
For over 500 fps you need a PAL to purchase.
Totally legal.
The other limit is muzzle energy at 5.7 joules/ 4.2 ft lbs. So that means a .22 cal air rifle is limited to 375 fps with a 14 grain pellet.
When I was a kid, I just loved target shooting with an Anschutz precision target air rifle. I have to say that it was as gratifying as trap shooting except without the sore shoulder!
One of these to the head is lethal. Do your homework gents. 8gr .68 cal projectile to the head is entering the brain. Check youtube.
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