Less lethal guns

Previous Thread Next Thread
O

optimusprime69

Autobot
Feb 10, 2025
88
101
33
Phil C. McNasty said:
So I just heard about less lethal guns. Its the latest thing in self-defense.

They apparently are 100% legal in all CDN provinces.
I might buy one. Looks like a cool toy.

Also great for SP's if they have troublesome customers (y)

byrna.ca

Byrna Canada | The Best Home & Self Defense Products

byrna.ca byrna.ca



They also come in assault rifles

Click to expand...
Very interesting! I had considered getting one of these but I was led to believe they were not legal in Canada. Thanks for sharing.
 
P

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
27,927
5,887
113
Last edited:
P

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
27,927
5,887
113
optimusprime69 said:
That's the one I was considering. If you toftt I'd love a review. lol
Click to expand...
Just a FYI. You cannot carry it concealed in your pocket or jacket.
And you can only use it as self-defense.
But I think you're allowed to carry it in your car's glove compartment.

I'm a bit skeptical when Byrna says it incapacitates an assailant for 30 minutes.
But it only has to work for 5-10 minutes, so you can take off from the area while that sucker is in agonizing pain :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: optimusprime69
P

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
27,927
5,887
113
If you shoot someone they're gonna think its a real gun they got shot with.
Then you give them a 2nd warning, the next shot will be between your eyes.
Guaranteed he's gonna back down :cool:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Indiana and optimusprime69
O

optimusprime69

Autobot
Feb 10, 2025
88
101
33
Phil C. McNasty said:
Just a FYI. You cannot carry it concealed in your pocket or jacket.
And you can only use it as self-defense.
But I think you're allowed to carry it in your car's glove compartment.

I'm a bit skeptical when Byrna says it incapacitates an assailant for 30 minutes.
But it only has to work for 5-10 minutes, so you can take off from the area while that sucker is in agonizing pain :D
Click to expand...
Exactly, I'm not trying to lay anyone out. Just want to create an opportunity to de-escalate an attack and get out of the situation. I think in most cases it would be very effective for this purpose however there are definitely situations where it would be ineffective. If someone has enough drugs in their system even real bullets won't stop them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phil C. McNasty
P

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
27,927
5,887
113
optimusprime69 said:
Exactly, I'm not trying to lay anyone out. Just want to create an opportunity to de-escalate an attack and get out of the situation. I think in most cases it would be very effective for this purpose however there are definitely situations where it would be ineffective. If someone has enough drugs in their system even real bullets won't stop them.
Click to expand...
Hit him in the nutsack and I think he's definitely going down, drugs or no drugs :D
 
  • Haha
Reactions: LTO_3 and optimusprime69
S

ShootNScoot

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2025
177
372
63
Before anyone thinks that you can use this as “self-defence”… you might want to do some reading on the criminal code.

There is so much ambiguity with the “self-defence” argument that you will find yourself in cuffs faster than you can pull a trigger.

Example: Telling a cop that you’re carrying a pocket knife for opening boxes or general utility… perfectly legal. Tell a cop you’re carrying it for self-defence… illegal under the criminal code.

Even pointing a BB gun at someone in “self-defence” is illegal under the criminal code

“Self-defence” protects the assailant more than it protects the victim.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Indiana, SchlongConery, xmontrealer and 5 others
O

optimusprime69

Autobot
Feb 10, 2025
88
101
33
Phil C. McNasty said:
Hit him in the nutsack and I think he's definitely going down, drugs or no drugs :D
Click to expand...
Ever seen shaolin monks take full power shots to the balls without flinching? Unfortunately the nutsack isn't always a point of vulnerability. Plus it would take some marksman like aim to make contact with the right target. I would aim for eyes and throat personally with a weapon like this.
 
P

Phil C. McNasty

Go Jays Go
Dec 27, 2010
27,927
5,887
113
ShootNScoot said:
Telling a cop that you’re carrying a pocket knife for opening boxes or general utility… perfectly legal. Tell a cop you’re carrying it for self-defence… illegal under the criminal code.

Even pointing a BB gun at someone in “self-defence” is illegal under the criminal code

“Self-defence” protects the assailant more than it protects the victim
Click to expand...
You would have to get your story ready beforehand.

Like for example tell the cop that you carry your less lethal gun with you because you're going to the shooting range.
And then some drunk, homeless guy just attacked you randomly for no reason.

I would think at that point you can use it for self-defense.
If you have no criminal record, I highly doubt a judge would throw you in jail for that
 
  • Like
Reactions: optimusprime69
O

optimusprime69

Autobot
Feb 10, 2025
88
101
33
Phil C. McNasty said:
You would have to get your story ready beforehand.

Like for example tell the cop that you carry your less lethal gun with you because you're going to the shooting range.
And then some drunk, homeless guy just attacked you randomly for no reason.

I would think at that point you can use it for self-defense.
If you have no criminal record, I highly doubt a judge would throw you in jail for that
Click to expand...
Let's face it, in our current climate safety should be your priority and legal repercussions should be secondary. Unless you're a career criminal or engaged in a crime when you use it most judges are going to use common sense. There have already been cases in the news where a home owner used their legal fire arm to defend them self and got the charges thrown out despite the fact that it's 100% illegal from a judicial perspective. Times are changing and there are a lot more violent threats than there used to be. I for one won't apologize for defending my safety under these circumstances.
 
O

optimusprime69

Autobot
Feb 10, 2025
88
101
33
skiierelite said:
It's muzzle velocity is only 330 fps. That's not very powerful.
Click to expand...
Agreed, it would be most effective point blank and firing multiple shots. I feel like in most circumstances the shock of being hit would provide ample opportunity to escape the situation which is ultimately the goal here.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Previous Thread Next Thread
Toronto Escorts
Top Bottom