Leafs 2023-2024 Thread

[superstar_88]

... or you could look at it as he's taking a huge discount for this year so that money could be used to load the defense.
i.e. the money spent on Klingberg
Tavares money will be used for pay raise of Marner if they decide to keep him.
Someone just came up with 88 mill for 8 years because it's his jersey number.
It's not a rumour. In any event his next contract will still be less than what Marner is currently getting.

I'm glad someone recognizes in game luck/bounces is part of the game and not just tag Willie as inconsistent.
Regular season:
20-21 51 17 25 42
21-22 81 34 46 80
22-23 82 40 47 87
23-24 18 12 15 27
Playoffs:
19-20 5 2 2 4
20-21 7 5 3 8
21-22 7 3 4 7
22-23 11 4 6 10

Clearly shows how consistent he's been and progressively getting better.
He also had 2 back to back 61 point seasons during his entry level contract.
Even prior to 2019 he had back to back 4 points in the playoffs during his entry level contract.

Bertuzzi hit the post also early in the game on a Nylander pass.
In OT Domi and Robertson is a bad matchup vs Bedard and it showed.

 

[Darts]

I've had enough of Samsonov.

Dubas drafted four goalies in six years, it's time that they be given a chance. Of the goalies drafted by Dubas: Woll, Petruzzelli, Denis Hildeby and Artur Akthymov. The problem with Canadian teams, you don't win by being risk averse. Rick Tochet appears to be the only one that understands that concept.

I doubt any NHL team will ever have a Worsley, Dryden, Vachon and Esposito on its roster at the same time.

 

[glamphotographer]

I've had enough of Samsonov.

Dubas drafted four goalies in six years, it's time that they be given a chance. Of the goalies drafted by Dubas: Woll, Petruzzelli, Denis Hildeby and Artur Akthymov. The problem with Canadian teams, you don't win by being risk averse. Rick Tochet appears to be the only one that understands that concept.

Hildeby who is 6 foot 6 they call him Hildebeast, looks very good for the Marlies, the Leafs won't rush the kid.

 

[Indiana]

I predicted that after overseas stint the Leafs would go 4 or 5 before winning again.
Swedish hangover.

 

[glamphotographer]

I predicted that after overseas stint the Leafs would go 4 or 5 before winning again.
Swedish hangover.

So far they lost 2, they got Panthers and Kraken at home, I can see them losing those two as well, Marner and Matthews are in a slump.

 

[tml]

Can someone please tell the Leafs there is no rule that states you have to pass the puck a minimum of 8 times before shooting in the opponent's zone. JFC, they're not the Soviet Red Army of the 1970's.

 

[K Douglas]

Not a good weekend against inferior competition taking 1 of 4 points. Zero points for the big 3.

 

[chuckertmg]

Not a good weekend against inferior competition taking 1 of 4 points. Zero points for the big 3.

Pittsburgh as of today has 9 wins in regulation time and the Leafs have 5 wins in regulation time.... are the Penguins that inferior?
They're inconsistent for sure but would you say that makes them worse than the Leafs?

It's not an important question but I'm trying to figure out who you meant by the big 3.

 

[Darts]

Can someone please tell the Leafs there is no rule that states you have to pass the puck a minimum of 8 times before shooting in the opponent's zone.

Not sure when or where but I vaguely remember someone saying that Marner has been told to pass the puck to Matthews because he (Matthews) has the much better shot. It could be true as it seems Marner is always looking to pass to Matthews.

 

[superstar_88]

Pitt is definitely not inferior competition but just comparing regulation wins is not a fair assessment.
Leafs have only 6 regulation losses whereas Pitt has 10 regulation losses.
A better assessment is comparing all wins and losses where Pitt is 10 and 10 and Leafs are 10 and 9.
Pitt has a goal differential of +11 whereas Leafs are only +1

In a league that has some games worth 3 points and some worth 2 Pitt put themselves in a huge disadvantage by not playing more 3 point games.
In a 3 2 1 0 point system Leafs would be 28 pts and Pitt 29

Marner definitely does not look like the same player he once was. No confidence, no speed, rarely any great passes.
Perhaps marriage just zapped him of his super powers.
He's minus 3. A career +86 player. All the other core players and top 6 are in plus territory. Even Tavares, a career minus player, is plus 1

 

[Darts]

"The Swede doesn't have much of an argument that he's a better player than Pastrňák, but his contract would come a year later, meaning Nylander's projected cap percentage at the beginning of his extension on an $11.65-million AAV (13.3%) would fall below Pastrňák's at the beginning of his (13.5%).2 days ago "

 

[superstar_88]

Who is this mysterious person you're quoting and how does this person know anything about the negotiations?
And where is the context? Are you quoting someone again who is just picking numbers out of thin air and speculating?

 

[Darts]

I Googled "Nylander contract" and got a few hits. Of course, it's probably not true because it's on the Internet.

Question: So, what is Nylander seeking in his next contract?

 

[superstar_88]

You would need to call up Nylander or his agent yourself. You have his number?
And I thought you don't use google. Didn't you once admonish people who do.

 

[Darts]

LeBrun: Rival NHL execs on a fair price for a Maple Leafs, ...

The Athletic
https://theathletic.com › 2023/11/20 › maple-leafs-willia...





6 days ago — I know Matthews is at $13.25 million, but only four-year term. If Nylander goes eight years at $11.5 million, that's $92 million guaranteed ...

 

[superstar_88]

This is a listing of exec opinions.
Totally different than stating some quote from someone you have no clue who it is and with no context. Really?

and why didn't you quote this instead from the link you provided?
“Somewhere between Gaudreau (seven years, $9.75 million) and Huberdeau (eight years, $10.5 million) "

and from your same link an Exec opinion, not this is what Nylander is demanding and I heard it on the internet and google:
“Eight years, $11.5 million is fair. Touch more than Pastrnak. If you look at internal structure, he should make more than Marner and Tavares. But it will be eight years, $12 or $12.25 million, I would guess.”

 

[Sonic Temple]

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[Sonic Temple]

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[Darts]

"There have been rumours that the GM Brad Treliving wants a deal between $8-9 Million per season, while Nylander wants $10 Million or more."
https://editorinleaf.com/2023/09/27/toronto-maple-leafs-nylander-contract-4/

 

[superstar_88]

Sept 27 is before the season started. The train has already left that station.
You have impeccable google skills