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Funny you say this
Went to a Pita place never been before and gave me in plastic bag on Sunday with my order.
Then Sunday night in the news the ex mayor of TO who created the idea of 5c bag was on the news.

while referring to former Toronto mayor David Miller as "comrade Miller" and condemning Miller's implementation of Toronto's 5Ā¢ bag fee as "fascism".

Weird don't you think?
 
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Funny you say this
Went to a Pita place never been before and gave me in plastic bag on Sunday with my order.
Then Sunday night in the news the ex mayor of TO who created the idea of 5c bag was on the news.

while referring to former Toronto mayor David Miller as "comrade Miller" and condemning Miller's implementation of Toronto's 5Ā¢ bag fee as "fascism".

Weird don't you think?
That's the funny thing, most fast food places still get to use them as well as convenience stores but the grocery stores are banned from using them. It makes no sense.
 
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GameBoy27

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I'm not a fan of plastic bags to be honest...The less plastic we use the better.
Bla bla bla... You know what most people had to do when they banned plastic bags in Canada? They had to go and buy plastic bags, that come in a carboard box, to put their garbage in. Canada is not the problem when it comes to plastic bags and recycling. Making people use paper straws in Canada with the belief that it's somehow going to save the planet, it virtue signaling at its finest.

But by all means, suck on the paper straw if it makes you feel better about yourself.

 

The Oracle

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Bla bla bla... You know what most people had to do when they banned plastic bags in Canada? They had to go and buy plastic bags, that come in a carboard box, to put their garbage in. Canada is not the problem when it comes to plastic bags and recycling. Making people use paper straws in Canada with the belief that it's somehow going to save the planet, it virtue signaling at its finest.

But by all means, suck on the paper straw if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I just bring my own...Have been for years

Can't tell you the last time I used a straw...Hmmm...Nope can't remember.
 
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tml

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I just bring my own...Have been for years

Can't tell you the last time I used a straw...Hmmm...Nope can't remember.
I'm not asking this to be cynical, just asking out of curiosity. What do you put your household garbage in?
 

tml

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Those big green plastic bags why?
It always drove me nuts wfen people referred to the old plastic grocery bags as single use. The were used and re-used, sometimes several times over for different purposes. So now that they are banned people are buying plastic bags to dispose of their household waste. I don't see where the improvement is. In fact, it costs the consumer more now.
I didn't even mind when they brought in the 5 cent fee for the plastic grocery bags, until I found out the grocery stores were pocketing the fee.
We can agree to disagree.
End of rant.
 

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It always drove me nuts wfen people referred to the old plastic grocery bags as single use. The were used and re-used, sometimes several times over for different purposes. So now that they are banned people are buying plastic bags to dispose of their household waste. I don't see where the improvement is. In fact, it costs the consumer more now.
I didn't even mind when they brought in the 5 cent fee for the plastic grocery bags, until I found out the grocery stores were pocketing the fee
Quoted for truth
 
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I'm not asking this to be cynical, just asking out of curiosity. What do you put your household garbage in?
I made sure I saved up lots of the plastic bags before the ban went into effect and top them up with occasional plastic bag from a convenience store or food delivery.

The other thing I do is crush as many items that I can and try to fill in the nooks and crannies. I try to minimize the volume of the garbage that I'm throwing out. Many times, instead of just throwing out an empty container, I fill it with more garbage like tissues, small food scraps, bottle caps etc. Again, I am significantly reducing the volume of what I'm disposing of. I fold up my pizza boxes and heavy paper/cardboard packaging as tight as I can. And finally, most of my recycling goes into the heavier brown paper bags that we get with food delivery or takeout. I only put dry items in the paper bags. Those bags are recyclable.
 

The Oracle

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It always drove me nuts wfen people referred to the old plastic grocery bags as single use. The were used and re-used, sometimes several times over for different purposes. So now that they are banned people are buying plastic bags to dispose of their household waste. I don't see where the improvement is. In fact, it costs the consumer more now.
I didn't even mind when they brought in the 5 cent fee for the plastic grocery bags, until I found out the grocery stores were pocketing the fee.
We can agree to disagree.
End of rant.
Here's my issue with the old grocery plastic bags...My neighbourhood roads used to be full of them.

If people would just clean up their mess I would have no problem with it.
 
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These recyclable bags create more waste and garbage than the original plastic bags ever did. I have a lot of my stuff delivered and have a growing mountain of them. If I dispose of them, I'm creating a lot of pollution but the other choice is to let my home start looking like an episode of Hoarders. At least I could use the old ones for kitty litter, a bagged lunch. I'd use them till they weren't usable. I'd like to know if there's a depot where you can leave them all.
 

GameBoy27

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As soon as you say plastic bags, people immediately think they're the worst thing for the environment. In fact, if you take the entire manufacturing process into account, plastic is far more environmentally friendly than paper.

"In fact, paper bags take about four times more energy to produce. Paper bags require cutting trees, an energy-intensive pulping process, and even the use of toxic chemicals harmful to the environment. On the other hand, producing plastic bags carries the lowest environmental toll compared to other bag options."

"Are plastic bags more environmentally friendly than paper bags?

A bag's impact is more than just its associated carbon emissions: Manufacturing a paper bag requires about four times as much water as a plastic bag. Additionally, the fertilizers and other chemicals used in tree farming and paper manufacturing contribute to acid rain and eutrophication of waterways at higher rates."

"What is the carbon footprint of paper vs plastic?

Greenhouse Gas Emissions: Plastic bags produce 0.04 tons of CO2, equivalent to paper's 0.08 tons. Water Usage: Plastic bags produce 58 gallons of fresh water, while paper bags require a staggering 1,004 gallons."

Not to mention, the carbon footprint associated with shipping paper vs. plastic bags. Paper bags both weigh more and takes up significantly more room than plastic bags. Therefore, you need many more trucks to deliver an equal quantity of plastic bags.

So you have to ask, why have they chosen paper over plastic? Because plastic is evil. lol
 
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