Joe Biden ruled as too incompetent to face charges

[Frankfooter]

No, but I think there are practical limits to pursuing political candidates especially a former President. If the documents case isn't really moving public opinion, you might say it doesn't matter what public opinion is he broke the law. On the other hand, one can say public opinion is the biggest jury in the world.

I thought Hillary should have been hit with a fine, but Comey did a little dance in 2016 that didn't make either side happy. I would have to say that Biden should have been hit with a fine. Remember they were in junior roles to the President of the United States. They had less authority over how they handled classified documents.

I know people like yourself have continued to look for the "big crime". I'm sorry I don't see it in the documents case. I'm not sure others are going to be persuaded to see it. If Trump wasn't running for office, I wouldn't care what the DOJ did with this case.

Trump installed judge Cannon is stalling the documents case.
Its not that nobody cares, its that everyone sees what is happening and wonders how long until the case hits trial and whether Cannon will be turfed over the issue.

Its not like there isn't a steady stream of court cases to last the year anyways.

 

[squeezer]

Trump installed judge Cannon is stalling the documents case.
Its not that nobody cares, its that everyone sees what is happening and wonders how long until the case hits trial and whether Cannon will be turfed over the issue.

Its not like there isn't a steady stream of court cases to last the year anyways.

Yes, I forgot about the Crooked Cannon factor. That is why Wyatt is over confident Trumpy will beat this case.

 

[WyattEarp]

Glad we agree.

On a side note, it seems many Repugs are jumping ship.

Did you watch the entire video and see that more Democrats here leaving the House than Republicans? The commentator says that House members are leaving earlier than ever. That could simply be because the primary season has compressed into an earlier and earlier time frame.

I'm guessing a lot of moderates on both sides are leaving and that's not good in my opinion. There is a contradiction though that many people say they want term limits then they react negatively to news like this.

I will admit it is interesting that Republican Committee Chairs are leaving. However, Democrats aren't currently committee chairs so there's no comparison. If prominent Republican Committee Chairs are leaving because their power and influence has been diminished, Americans generally don't spill tears over the dispersion of power and influence.

 

[squeezer]

Did you watch the entire video and see that more Democrats here leaving the House than Republicans? The commentator says that House members are leaving earlier than ever. That could simply be because the primary season has compressed into an earlier and earlier time frame.

I'm guessing a lot of moderates on both sides are leaving and that's not good in my opinion. There is a contradiction though that many people say they want term limits than they react negatively to news like this.

I will admit it is interesting that Republican Committee Chairs are leaving. However, Democrats aren't currently committee chairs so there's no comparison. If prominent Republican Committee Chairs are leaving because their power and influence has been diminished, Americans generally don't spill tears over the dispersion of power and influence.

It is the moderate Republicans leaving that is concerning thus turning the Republican party into more and more maga asshats.

 

[nottyboi]

It is the moderate Republicans leaving that is concerning thus turning the Republican party into more and more maga asshats.

A 3rd party is long overdue.

 

[WyattEarp]

It is the moderate Republicans leaving that is concerning thus turning the Republican party into more and more maga asshats.

You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.

 

[mandrill]

A 3rd party is long overdue.

Ask Clucker Tarlson to start the "I love Putin Party" with you. Your slogan can be "A gulag for every family and a bullet for every Dad!"

 

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Fox host SILENCES co-hosts with FACTS on Trump LEGAL Woes

Trump rates as the worst POTUS ever. LOL

 

[y2kmark]

Ask Clucker Tarlson to start the "I love Putin Party" with you. Your slogan can be "A gulag for every family and a bullet for every Dad!"

I thought it was "Better a Russian than a Democrat"? Both, I guess...

 

[y2kmark]

You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.

Always the champion (Brave courageous and bold!) of "one side is just as bad as the other". There is bad on both "sides", but an order of magnitude difference, maybe several orders of magnitude...

 

[mandrill]

You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.

Another installment of "Whatabouty".

Yes, there are fringe wackadoodles of all descriptions around. But the GOP is run by them - Gaetz, Marge, Johnson, etc. The Dems are run by the centrist mainstream.

 

[squeezer]

You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.

The reality is Newsom signed off on only $20 minimum wage but sure use the wish of one member to paint all the Dems as asking for a $50 hike. LOL

 

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Fox News is TRIGGERED that survey ranks Trump as worst president ever! THE WORST OF ALL PRESIDENTS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH LOSERRRRRRRR

 

[WyattEarp]

Another installment of "Whatabouty".

Yes, there are fringe wackadoodles of all descriptions around. But the GOP is run by them - Gaetz, Marge, Johnson, etc. The Dems are run by the centrist mainstream.

mandrill, thanks again for your expert analysis. Of course, two party politics is a "whatabout" exercise. Every Biden is too old thread triggers a chorus of Trump is too old.

The Biden Administration and the Dems have been strongly pulled to the left by their progressive base. If the Democratic centrists were running things, Trump would not be pulling so strong. I will say that in recent years the Dems have had more party cohesion. I am curious how the anti-Israel crowd is going to behave at the convention.

 

[Butler1000]

mandrill, thanks again for your expert analysis. Of course, two party politics is a "whatabout" exercise. Every Biden is too old thread triggers a chorus of Trump is too old.

The Biden Administration and the Dems have been strongly pulled to the left by their progressive base. If the Democratic centrists were running things, Trump would not be pulling so strong. I will say that in recent years the Dems have had more party cohesion. I am curious how the anti-Israel crowd is going to behave at the convention.

I'm wondering if its going to be 1968 all over again.

 

[silentkisser]

Fox News is TRIGGERED that survey ranks Trump as worst president ever! THE WORST OF ALL PRESIDENTS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH LOSERRRRRRRR

I find it funny that anyone could seriously not think Trump would be in the bottom part of a greatest president's list. He failed to meet the challenges that popped up during his term, and then tried to illegally stay in power...That is why he is dead last! Now, the top 15 is a little odd...I'm not sure if Biden should be that high, but he's already passed several bills that have fundamentally improved life for many Americans. Something Trump never accomplished...

 

[WyattEarp]

The reality is Newsom signed off on only $20 minimum wage but sure use the wish of one member to paint all the Dems as asking for a $50 hike. LOL

The point was there are plenty of wing nuts on the left. Congresswomen Barbara Lee is not the only radical left member of Congress who basically sees no limits to redistribution. I didn't want to bore the thread with listing anti-Israel members who coincidentally are extremely leftist economically. One NY Democratic Congressmen believed 9-11 was coordinated by our government. Of course, he was forced to deny his beliefs.

If I had to choose between a MAGA Congressmen who supports limiting government and a Leftist Congressmen who see no limits to the expansion of government, I know what my choice will be. If one peers through all the hyperbole from both sides, this is the crux of the political choice.

I didn't mention Adam Schiff in his role as the Chair of the Intelligence Committee who for two years said he had proof that Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians. That was fun. I want to say that it was a little political fib, but it was a major hindrance for executive governance. It threw the country into more partisan battles that last today. It's a major part of why Schiff is the leading candidate in the California Senate race. Harmful rhetoric and hyperbole wins many states and districts.

 

[WyattEarp]

I'm wondering if its going to be 1968 all over again.

The Democratic convention is coincidentally in Chicago. You're aware of history. The problem isn't just what happens inside. It's also what happens outside.

I think it's fair to say the Chicago Mayor is an extreme progressive. I will be curious to see how he responds if things get messy.

 

[squeezer]

The point was there are plenty of wing nuts on the left. Congresswomen Barbara Lee is not the only radical left member of Congress who basically sees no limits to redistribution. I didn't want to bore the thread with listing anti-Israel members who coincidentally are extremely leftist economically. One NY Democratic Congressmen believed 9-11 was coordinated by our government. Of course, he was forced to deny his beliefs.

If I had to choose between a MAGA Congressmen who supports limiting government and a Leftist Congressmen who see no limits to the expansion of government, I know what my choice will be. If one peers through all the hyperbole from both sides, this is the crux of the political choice.

I didn't mention Adam Schiff in his role as the Chair of the Intelligence Committee who for two years said he had proof that Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians. That was fun. I want to say that it was a little political fib, but it was a major hindrance for executive governance. It threw the country into more partisan battles that last today. It's a major part of why Schiff is the leading candidate in the California Senate race. Harmful rhetoric and hyperbole wins many states and districts.

Putin tried hard and succeeded in 2016 to get Trump elected. Russia will do the same in November because of Trump's hatred for Nato which plays well in Putin world

https://www.cato.org/commentary/no-russiagate-wasnt-hoax-team-trump-claims-it-was

Of course there are radicals in both parties but to claim Biden admin has gone far left is nonsensical while at the same time, the Republicans are moving towards being an all out MAGA infused, conspiratorial party.

 

[WyattEarp]

Of course there are radicals in both parties but to claim Biden admin has gone far left is nonsensical while at the same time, the Republicans are moving towards being an all out MAGA infused, conspiratorial party.

Yours and other's idea of a "centrist" is different than most Americans. Everyone hopes that their political values are mainstream. Most people don't want to believe they are on the fringe. No one says "I believe X and Y but the vast majority of the country disagrees with me".

There is a dynamic in Western democracies where fringe elements believe the will of the people is being blunted. If people only knew more information, they would see the light. I can tell you I have friends on the left and right who believe these things about the electorate. That's why its easy to convince these extreme people that the other side is destroying the country. If you don't believe this and pass (or fail) this legislation, it's the end of democracy.

Now let's turn the tables on to Canada. Perhaps because I read a lot of financial and economic news, I am seeing the growing chorus regarding the building economic malaise in Canada. There is now a identifiable structural problem with Canada's economy. It's not just cyclical. It's not a prediction. It's here now and has been for several years.

I don't know why, but the progressive membership here seems to be very effective at drowning out other voices that would generally be discussing this more rationally. They tend to shout the most and loudest on social media. I truly admire their passion.

Putting Trudeau, Poilievre, Biden and Trump aside for a moment, how is Canada going to address this problem? If people engage in personality politics or get lost fighting ideological battles, they will likely miss the bigger issues.

So you are probably thinking what does Canadian politics have to do with Biden and Trump Republicans. It has everything to do your perception of what a centrist is? And your likely self-perception that you are a centrist? Anyone can claim they are a centrist. The hard part is the compromising, adapting to changing circumstances and being flexible in one's views.